If I were your best friend and I die .. and you start proclaiming to the world that I, your best friend, was an alcoholic and I died because of its effects, I would not appreciate it at all. I would come back and haunt you in your dreams, shake your bed, turn the lights on and off, open and bang the door, turn the TV on full blast .. until you scream..
And I would appear before you with a blanket over my head and tell you, "Gosh, Gilly, man, everybody knows what alcoholism is and what effect it has. It's not exactly very flattering what you are doing. You don't have to rub it in, mate.. I'm already 6 feet under the ground.."
Anyways, I am not your best friend and you are not my best friend, so that's already a good thing.
Your best friend must have been a very sad and troubled person who was unable to find a reason good enough to rid himself of his addiction. And that I feel sorry about ..
wooffyClose to Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium832 posts
Amaryllis: You know, Gilly, I have to tell you this ..
If I were your best friend and I die .. and you start proclaiming to the world that I, your best friend, was an alcoholic and I died because of its effects, I would not appreciate it at all. I would come back and haunt you in your dreams, shake your bed, turn the lights on and off, open and bang the door, turn the TV on full blast .. until you scream..
And I would appear before you with a blanket over my head and tell you, "Gosh, Gilly, man, everybody knows what alcoholism is and what effect it has. It's not exactly very flattering what you are doing. You don't have to rub it in, mate.. I'm already 6 feet under the ground.."
Anyways, I am not your best friend and you are not my best friend, so that's already a good thing.
Your best friend must have been a very sad and troubled person who was unable to find a reason good enough to rid himself of his addiction. And that I feel sorry about ..
totally in agreement and I add this if you were such a good friend what did you do to try to help him to stop. And why didn't you post that here? A good friend in my opinion would have posted "my friend died today and I failed to help him conquer his addiction"
wooffyClose to Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium832 posts
guiriman: geez ... the guy's mate's died .. nuff with the semantics .. doncha fink?? ..
nope because he opened the door calling his dead best friend "the alcoholic" between quotation marks this has got to be the rudeist thread I have ever seen. He is the one that should be apologizing for starting this thread. Besides a person that drinks themselves to death I have no pity for. Sorry Guiri now you see my bad side. I am very opinionated when it comes to suicide fast or slow.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
Amaryllis: You know, Gilly, I have to tell you this ..
If I were your best friend and I die .. and you start proclaiming to the world that I, your best friend, was an alcoholic and I died because of its effects, I would not appreciate it at all. I would come back and haunt you in your dreams, shake your bed, turn the lights on and off, open and bang the door, turn the TV on full blast .. until you scream..
And I would appear before you with a blanket over my head and tell you, "Gosh, Gilly, man, everybody knows what alcoholism is and what effect it has. It's not exactly very flattering what you are doing. You don't have to rub it in, mate.. I'm already 6 feet under the ground.."
Anyways, I am not your best friend and you are not my best friend, so that's already a good thing.
Your best friend must have been a very sad and troubled person who was unable to find a reason good enough to rid himself of his addiction. And that I feel sorry about ..
Totally in disagreement because it feels like we knew Gilly's acoholic friend because he'd mention him several times. I'm sorry for your loss Gilly
wooffy: totally in agreement and I add this if you were such a good friend what did you do to try to help him to stop. And why didn't you post that here? A good friend in my opinion would have posted "my friend died today and I failed to help him conquer his addiction"
Well, sorry, but I disagree with you. My brother was an alcoholic, and nothing and nobody could do anything about it, and he too drank himself to death, deliberately.
The only thing I could do, as his best friend and sister, was to be available to him, to drive his car when he was SO drunk he thought he was still capable, to prevent him killing anyone else, and to be his friend when he had no friends left capable of sitting up and listening to his woes and troubles.
The only person who could stop him from drinking was himself, and himself could not do it, until his feet turned black and he knew he was going to have them amputated, so he increased the alcohol until he caused himself a heart attack and died.
Sad, but true. An alcoholic is a pathetic being. But there is always a reason why they choose to obliterate their brains. I knew my brothers reason, which was beyond my help, and he chose his own path in life - that is the Freedom of Choice that we all have. But he was still a great brother, and I`m always sad that he chose to miss out on so much in this life.
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
wooffy: totally in agreement and I add this if you were such a good friend what did you do to try to help him to stop. And why didn't you post that here? A good friend in my opinion would have posted "my friend died today and I failed to help him conquer his addiction"
He didn't fail to safe his friend from dying! Where did you get that from, guilty you? Now Gilly needs to feel a bit of resentment? Don't make me laugh here!
jojo69Birmingham, but from Liverpool, West Midlands, England UK1,565 posts
Alcoholism is like a disease.
And if Gilly mentioning about his friend helps other people whom may be in same situation as his friend, to 'wake up'and seek help. Then fairplay to Gilly.
And if Gilly mentioning about his friend helps other people whom may be in same situation as his friend, to 'wake up'and seek help. Then fairplay to Gilly.
We are slightly off topic, but as most of us sometimes in life (some of us early) have faced the big A problem, we have our own opinion about it clearly lined out and very different from each other.
I am almost as condemning as Wooffy towards the users who refuses treatment and support (my father was one) while I will never stop admiring those who tirelessly continues to offer it.
Know what alcoholism is...Been there !...Sober for 3 years now ,and damn proud of it! I regret that your friend didn't wake up in time to beat the addiction up .
And if Gilly mentioning about his friend helps other people whom may be in same situation as his friend, to 'wake up'and seek help. Then fairplay to Gilly.
Amaryllis: You know, Gilly, I have to tell you this ..
If I were your best friend and I die .. and you start proclaiming to the world that I, your best friend, was an alcoholic and I died because of its effects, I would not appreciate it at all.
I believe that Gilly, the best friend, would be best qualified to know what his friend would appreciate.
And if it were me dying from of the effects of alcohol, I would certainly want my death to serve as a warning to others so that they might learn to live for something, rather than die for nothing.
Report threads that break rules, are offensive, or contain fighting. Staff may not be aware of the forum abuse, and cannot do anything about it unless you tell us about it. click to report forum abuse »
If one of the comments is offensive, please report the comment instead (there is a link in each comment to report it).