Forced sterlization.... (20)

Aug 29, 2009 12:28 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Lets face it folks...

What with over population, unplanned pregnacies especially among teenagers.....

Why don't doctors (the have the know how) to make all males sterlie at birth...with a reversable operation...

It's not as daft as it sounds...How many kids are brought up in unloved homes...How many adults really know what it's like to be a parent...?

So why not as I've said make all males sterile at birth and when they are ready to start a family they under go a 'means' test..to see if they can be responsible parents...And if they 'pass' or get enough credits..then the op is reversed...

That way we are sure that the pregnacy is not only planned but the two parents are armed with the knowledge to be able them to be godd responsible parents..I know most of being a parent is trial and error..But how many women got pregnant when they were only starting off in life and had to for go there hopes and aspirations to bring up a family...
Aug 30, 2009 4:41 AM CST Forced sterlization....
Sojourner
SojournerSojournerAndorra la Vella, Andorra31 Threads 2 Polls 472 Posts
Phoenix: Lets face it folks...

What with over population, unplanned pregnacies especially among teenagers.....

Why don't doctors (the have the know how) to make all males sterlie at birth...with a reversable operation...

It's not as daft as it sounds...How many kids are brought up in unloved homes...How many adults really know what it's like to be a parent...?

So why not as I've said make all males sterile at birth and when they are ready to start a family they under go a 'means' test..to see if they can be responsible parents...And if they 'pass' or get enough credits..then the op is reversed...

That way we are sure that the pregnacy is not only planned but the two parents are armed with the knowledge to be able them to be godd responsible parents..I know most of being a parent is trial and error..But how many women got pregnant when they were only starting off in life and had to for go there hopes and aspirations to bring up a family...
Forced sterilzation of all mals at birth is, as I'm sure you realize, very extreme. Not a reasonable solution to the problem of over-population and other social issues. Some EU countries have zero population growth, Austria I know does. What are they doing right? I think education is the solution. I believe the higher the level of literacy in a country, the lower the population growth.
Aug 30, 2009 11:40 AM CST Forced sterlization....
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
smoky: Oh, I don`t think that will be a big problem in the future, Phoenix.
At this time in history, the males are becoming sterile anyway.
Males are in a decline, it seems?


That's true.

It happened to Rome as the empire declined too.
Aug 31, 2009 1:52 PM CST Forced sterlization....
gopi59
gopi59gopi59chennai, Tamil Nadu India20 Threads 2 Polls 260 Posts
1,2,3.4,5,6,7,8,9,10........help anybody join me in counting?rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 2, 2009 1:21 PM CST Forced sterlization....
galileoi
galileoigalileoiM'Skala, Xlokk Malta5 Posts
Quite Utopian. Reminds me a bit of the opening chapter of Brave New World actually.

But then again, what is a responsable parent? One who helps his child grow into a good member of society? I am sure Uncle Adolf's parents did not bring him up to be a dictator. On the othe rhand George Bush Snr did raise his son, Jnr, to be a leader and look at the good it did us.
Sep 2, 2009 1:50 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
galileoi: Quite Utopian. Reminds me a bit of the opening chapter of Brave New World actually.


It's being talked about in various circles...it's very sinister to say the least...Sometimes truth follows fiction...

galileoi: But then again, what is a responsable parent? One who helps his child grow into a good member of society? I am sure Uncle Adolf's parents did not bring him up to be a dictator. On the othe rhand George Bush Snr did raise his son, Jnr, to be a leader and look at the good it did us.


Can't buy into that either...the minute you become a parent you are for life...you don't stop becoming a parent the minute Jr flies the coup....I can remember my grandmother giving my daddy an ear full..Why because she was his mother and even though my daddy had flown the coup many moons before, didn't stop my grandmother from pulling rank and giving him a kick up the back side if and when she thought he deserved it...In saying that my daddy and mummy did a great job bringing up 7 kids..And I'll do the same to mine...give them a kick in the butt if they need it..no matter how old they are....

Just maybe thats where both Adolfs and Jr's parents failed[ my grandmother and parents didn't)...They let go of the ropes (their responsiblity of parenting) because like so many they think that it stops when the kids move out...It doesn't...
Sep 2, 2009 2:09 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Morosoof
MorosoofMorosoofAalten, Gelderland Netherlands7 Threads 16 Posts
Perfect idee .I did it when the mother of my children coul,d not have children any more .My doughter is a bit handicapt becouse of a heavy delivery.sad flower
Sep 2, 2009 2:11 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Morosoof
MorosoofMorosoofAalten, Gelderland Netherlands7 Threads 16 Posts
Bye the way Poenix .When you are near my place .I have Mons. Hulo van J .Tati en J .Brel on video .applause dancing
Sep 2, 2009 2:29 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Morosoof: Perfect idee .


Good man yourself Morosoof...wine maybe my idea of a reversable op...isn't that stupid. Thats exactly it...you took the of being a resposible parent to your daughter..You realized that if you had anymore you couldn't give your handicapped daughter the attention she needs.

But not every one in this big bad world thinks like you..thats unfortunate. There are lots of people who's head sole purpose is to keep their ears apart...
Sep 2, 2009 3:48 PM CST Forced sterlization....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
galileoi: Quite Utopian. Reminds me a bit of the opening chapter of Brave New World actually.
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Oh yes, It does huh?!! Scary stuff.

And somewhere else I have heard mention - I am not a scientific sort of person so rely on others for this type of info ...... that ALL beings are created female - and then, during development in the womb - they become male (or remain female)...?

So, eventually, when all the males are sterile and their offspring males are sterile ...there will be only females....?...and only the select few will be used for in-vitro fertilization ... from the selected few fertile males...?....... and then ..... A BRAVE NEW WORLD WILL BE BORN .......dunno moping
Sep 2, 2009 3:51 PM CST Forced sterlization....
smoky: Oh yes, It does huh?!! Scary stuff.

And somewhere else I have heard mention - I am not a scientific sort of person so rely on others for this type of info ...... that ALL beings are created female - and then, during development in the womb - they become male (or remain female)...?

So, eventually, when all the males are sterile and their offspring males are sterile ...there will be only females....?...and only the select few will be used for in-vitro fertilization ... from the selected few fertile males...?....... and then ..... A BRAVE NEW WORLD WILL BE BORN .......
Naw,just read recently that an Upward turn has started.
Forgot where I saw it.
Don't count out us Males that quick!laugh
Sep 2, 2009 4:11 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
smoky: Oh yes, It does huh?!! Scary stuff.

And somewhere else I have heard mention - I am not a scientific sort of person so rely on others for this type of info ...... that ALL beings are created female - and then, during development in the womb - they become male (or remain female)...?(/quote}

I've heard something similiar too...

So, eventually, when all the males are sterile and their offspring males are sterile ...there will be only females....?


And who going to put out the rubbish, light the fire...do all the heavy stuff..who are the women going to nag laugh

...and only the select few will be used for in-vitro fertilization[... from the selected few fertile males...?....... and then ..... A BRAVE NEW WORLD WILL BE BORN .......

Sounds more like a master race...
Sep 3, 2009 4:01 AM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Conrad73: Fearmongering!


I still put it down to what they are pitting in thez water...
Sep 3, 2009 4:39 AM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Conrad73: Fearmongering!


Also radders...it's your partener in crime who's scare mongering by saying fit nubiles will become the dominate species in years to come...

Imagine a world controlled by women...thats a scarey thought.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 3, 2009 4:42 AM CST Forced sterlization....
Phoenix: Also radders...it's your partener in crime who's scare mongering by saying fit nubiles will become the dominate species in years to come...

Imagine a world controlled by women...thats a scarey thought.
Hasn't always been like that?rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 3, 2009 10:30 AM CST Forced sterlization....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Phoenix: Also radders...it's your partener in crime who's scare mongering by saying fit nubiles will become the dominate species in years to come...

Imagine a world controlled by women...thats a scarey thought.
Not by choice Phoenix ... merely by how the world is going!

I most definitely do not want to sound like my mother here ... or an extremist ... but everyone guzzling poisoned food, storing their food in plastics, eating whatever their taste buds want, wearing fabrics and jewellery made of dubious substances, being exposed to whatever it is that is in cell-phones and other ray emitting electronics ......can only lead down a One-Way Street... and that street is called Infertility (Cancer is another name too)

Even my own kids - who are pretty enlightened - can`t help themselves! I watch what they eat, when they`re on their own, or I haven`t made the food .... it is all INSTANT, out of packets, cans, boxes, dehydrated, and LOTS of red meat (loaded with growth hormones/steroids/anti-biotics injected into the commercial animals).. and scavenging sea-foods. Or else Take-Aways, or restaurant food. Nothing they eat is "real" food!

What amazes me is that people like to buy Cheap & Easy food, and then don`t mind paying enormous sums in medical care?

Anyway, apparently the world used to be run by females, so maybe they will manage resources better than the males?
Sep 3, 2009 1:34 PM CST Forced sterlization....
galileoi
galileoigalileoiM'Skala, Xlokk Malta5 Posts
smoky: its the modern caucasians especially those in high-powered jobs dwelling in cities and subsisting on "imitation" food .....


Try finding a movie called 'Idiocracy'. It is nothing to write home about but the opening sequence reflects what Smoky said here. I laughed my head off when I saw it, then went bang it on the wall soon afterwards.
Sep 3, 2009 1:50 PM CST Forced sterlization....
Conrad73: Only problem is that the "Study" was highly ambiguous.



Sep 3, 2009 2:59 PM CST Forced sterlization....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: http://www.junkscience.com/consumer/oct99/consumer_eas0912.html
Ah ja, yackety yack speak, as far as I`m concerned.

Once, in SA, after a Buyer in the fresh produce department of a national food chain told me that all their vegetables and fruit are Irradiated, they were having problems with certain types of fruit, but the problem was being worked on.

I interviewed the Consumer Council Health Watchdog people ... and guess what they had to say about Irradiation?....."Oh but, the food still TASTES the same"......sigh These "profesional" people just had NO idea what Irradiation does to fresh food!

At the Irradiation plant, their Chief guy said "Well how else can the country feed the masses?".....sigh

Irradiation "locks in" the nutrients, sterilises any decay, disease, germs, etc.....you eat it, it passes right thru your system - vitamins, minerals, everything - your body does not absorb any of the nutrients.

There was an outbreak of Salmonella at a huge Chicken Battery Farm .... the dead chickens were sent to be Irradiated .... and distributed to food shops for people to eat! Oh they were sterile from the disease, and they still tasted like chicken .....cool
Sep 3, 2009 3:10 PM CST Forced sterlization....
smoky: Ah ja, yackety yack speak, as far as I`m concerned.

Once, in SA, after a Buyer in the fresh produce department of a national food chain told me that all their vegetables and fruit are Irradiated, they were having problems with certain types of fruit, but the problem was being worked on.

I interviewed the Consumer Council Health Watchdog people ... and guess what they had to say about Irradiation?....."Oh but, the food still TASTES the same"...... These "profesional" people just had NO idea what Irradiation does to fresh food!

At the Irradiation plant, their Chief guy said "Well how else can the country feed the masses?".....

Irradiation "locks in" the nutrients, sterilises any decay, disease, germs, etc.....you eat it, it passes right thru your system - vitamins, minerals, everything - your body does not absorb any of the nutrients.

There was an outbreak of Salmonella at a huge Chicken Battery Farm .... the dead chickens were sent to be Irradiated .... and distributed to food shops for people to eat! Oh they were sterile from the disease, and they still tasted like chicken .....
Radiation simply kills the Bacteria.



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