Surrender Through Love (5)
Ah, I believe this thread should bring forth some interesting conversation.
Let me share why.
Many times in thread posts, we hear others complaining of our talk on Spirituality, claiming, "this is a dating site" with remarks that our talks on the subject have no business here.
Deepak gives insight on this in his writing shared above, "Your spirit is not involved in such concerns. It wants being, love, freedom, and creative opportunities. This is an entirely different level of desire, and when you reach it you can share yourself with another person without conflict. "
His words tell us that in order to surrender true love, we must be Spiritual.
This is why we should seek out a partner having a similar Spirituality as our own. If one is Spiritual and the other egotistic, the relationship is doomed to fail.
Our discussions here on Spirituality in the forums, help us to see the awareness levels of those we interact with. Many times we meet those of kindred spirits and we immediately feel a bond with them.
I would hope to meet a partner to share my life, right here under this forum topic.
If CS did not provide us with a place to discuss the spiritual issues of our hearts, how would we recognize a potential partner?
HL
Let me share why.
Many times in thread posts, we hear others complaining of our talk on Spirituality, claiming, "this is a dating site" with remarks that our talks on the subject have no business here.
Deepak gives insight on this in his writing shared above, "Your spirit is not involved in such concerns. It wants being, love, freedom, and creative opportunities. This is an entirely different level of desire, and when you reach it you can share yourself with another person without conflict. "
His words tell us that in order to surrender true love, we must be Spiritual.
This is why we should seek out a partner having a similar Spirituality as our own. If one is Spiritual and the other egotistic, the relationship is doomed to fail.
Our discussions here on Spirituality in the forums, help us to see the awareness levels of those we interact with. Many times we meet those of kindred spirits and we immediately feel a bond with them.
I would hope to meet a partner to share my life, right here under this forum topic.
If CS did not provide us with a place to discuss the spiritual issues of our hearts, how would we recognize a potential partner?
HL
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HL, this is an interesting post. I love Deepak Chopra and his insights, he's a very wise man in the ways of spirituality and of mankind.
I agree that for true love to develop in a relationship both members of the couple must have similar enough beliefs to meld in that way as well as all others. Love must have a spiritual element to it.
For example, I couldn't date anyone who is rabidly Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. My beliefs are too broad for that, and the way I experience God is too different for someone like that to be a good match with me, especially if they're quoting their faith a lot. I'm dating someone now who is Baha'i, but doesn't bang me over the head with it, and actually has spiritual views that are very compatible with mine, and that's important to me. It's what makes us so compatible, actually.
Both people, however, must surrender ego to Spirit for this to work.
I agree that for true love to develop in a relationship both members of the couple must have similar enough beliefs to meld in that way as well as all others. Love must have a spiritual element to it.
For example, I couldn't date anyone who is rabidly Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. My beliefs are too broad for that, and the way I experience God is too different for someone like that to be a good match with me, especially if they're quoting their faith a lot. I'm dating someone now who is Baha'i, but doesn't bang me over the head with it, and actually has spiritual views that are very compatible with mine, and that's important to me. It's what makes us so compatible, actually.
Both people, however, must surrender ego to Spirit for this to work.
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druidess6308: HL, this is an interesting post. I love Deepak Chopra and his insights, he's a very wise man in the ways of spirituality and of mankind.
I agree that for true love to develop in a relationship both members of the couple must have similar enough beliefs to meld in that way as well as all others. Love must have a spiritual element to it.
For example, I couldn't date anyone who is rabidly Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. My beliefs are too broad for that, and the way I experience God is too different for someone like that to be a good match with me, especially if they're quoting their faith a lot. I'm dating someone now who is Baha'i, but doesn't bang me over the head with it, and actually has spiritual views that are very compatible with mine, and that's important to me. It's what makes us so compatible, actually.
Both people, however, must surrender ego to Spirit for this to work.
I agree that for true love to develop in a relationship both members of the couple must have similar enough beliefs to meld in that way as well as all others. Love must have a spiritual element to it.
For example, I couldn't date anyone who is rabidly Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. My beliefs are too broad for that, and the way I experience God is too different for someone like that to be a good match with me, especially if they're quoting their faith a lot. I'm dating someone now who is Baha'i, but doesn't bang me over the head with it, and actually has spiritual views that are very compatible with mine, and that's important to me. It's what makes us so compatible, actually.
Both people, however, must surrender ego to Spirit for this to work.
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I completely agree. Seeing the spiritual side of a person is vastly important in relationship and compatibility. A pity only a small number of CS members post in the forums.
I think it we could be more tolerant of each other's spiritual views and not fear bashing, no matter our belief, the environment for this openness would be more welcoming.
After all, why do we need to bash someone who has another belief, or prove them wrong? Just quietly state your belief and leave all weapons of disintegration at the door.
I think it we could be more tolerant of each other's spiritual views and not fear bashing, no matter our belief, the environment for this openness would be more welcoming.
After all, why do we need to bash someone who has another belief, or prove them wrong? Just quietly state your belief and leave all weapons of disintegration at the door.
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Surrender is being alert to exactly what is happening now, not imposing expectations from the past. Surrender is faith that the power of love can accomplish anything, even when you cannot foresee the outcome of a situation.
But surrendering to another person’s ego, even your beloved’s, is not a spiritual act. At the level of the ego, two people cannot want exactly the same thing all the time. Yet at the level of spirit, they cannot help but want the same thing all the time. Your ego wants material things, predictable conclusions, continuity, security, and the prerogative to be right when others are wrong.
By definition, pursuing these goals shuts out another person unless she falls in line with “my” agenda or he realizes that “I” am the important one around here.
Your spirit is not involved in such concerns. It wants being, love, freedom, and creative opportunities. This is an entirely different level of desire, and when you reach it you can share yourself with another person without conflict. Such sharing is the core of surrender.
The gap between ego and spirit is unavoidable. It would seem impossible to close this gap, since spirit and ego are total opposites. Bringing them together is achieved through surrender, and the only force that can accomplish it is love. Surrender, then, is the next phase on love’s journey, which you enter as soon as you choose to be in relationship.
The path to love uses relationship to move you out of your limited sense of “I,” “me,” “mine” into an expanded identity – this is the growth from the self to the Self.
Adapted from The Path to Love, by Deepak Chopra (Three Rivers Press, 1997).