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Dec 7, 2009 7:56 AM CST Climate Change


"A Loud Minority

But psychology isn't the whole answer, either. Leiserowitz's opinion research shows that there's a relatively small but active group of people who have decided that climate change is a phony issue.

"The people who are pretty skeptical about whether this is even an issue to worry about, they're pretty mobilized right now," he says, "and they're amplifying their message across the country."

Right now, they're having a field day with the e-mails stolen from climate scientists. Skeptics have taken some suspicious-sounding statements in those e-mails as proof that climate change is a hoax. That's certainly not the view of mainstream scientists, but again, the public doesn't necessarily listen to scientists.

People trying to stir up doubt about climate change aren't working in a vacuum, says Tim Wirth, a former Democratic senator who now runs the United Nations Foundation. There's a large and well-funded effort to block legislation that could hurt the industries most responsible for carbon emissions.

"Where does that money come from?" he asks. "Well, it comes in part, sometimes in large part, from the very industries whose ox is going to get gored if there's aggressive climate legislation. So that gets increasingly difficult on Capitol Hill.""
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Dec 7, 2009 7:59 AM CST Climate Change
ooby_dooby: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121105095

"A Loud Minority

But psychology isn't the whole answer, either. Leiserowitz's opinion research shows that there's a relatively small but active group of people who have decided that climate change is a phony issue.

"The people who are pretty skeptical about whether this is even an issue to worry about, they're pretty mobilized right now," he says, "and they're amplifying their message across the country."

Right now, they're having a field day with the e-mails stolen from climate scientists. Skeptics have taken some suspicious-sounding statements in those e-mails as proof that climate change is a hoax. That's certainly not the view of mainstream scientists, but again, the public doesn't necessarily listen to scientists.

People trying to stir up doubt about climate change aren't working in a vacuum, says Tim Wirth, a former Democratic senator who now runs the United Nations Foundation. There's a large and well-funded effort to block legislation that could hurt the industries most responsible for carbon emissions.

"Where does that money come from?" he asks. "Well, it comes in part, sometimes in large part, from the very industries whose ox is going to get gored if there's aggressive climate legislation. So that gets increasingly difficult on Capitol Hill.""
And Gore is doing the Goring,and making a killing!
Pun not intended!uh oh
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Dec 7, 2009 8:43 AM CST Climate Change
So what? He's making money investing in green industries. I have investments in Velaro the biggest refiner in the world also I have investments in a co that is the biggest celulosic ethanol co in the world (that's ethanol from waste not corn). Green is green if you get my drift.
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Dec 7, 2009 8:46 AM CST Climate Change
ooby_dooby: So what? He's making money investing in green industries. I have investments in Velaro the biggest refiner in the world also I have investments in a co that is the biggest celulosic ethanol co in the world (that's ethanol from waste not corn). Green is green if you get my drift.
Nope,hes is making money in trading Carboncredits,that ************************frustrated
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Dec 7, 2009 9:49 AM CST Climate Change
Conrad73: Nope,hes is making money in trading Carboncredits,that ************************
Again I say so what. This is a capitalist country after all and if he's an astute investor he will make lots of money, if not he could lose his shirt. Some hedge funds trade mortgages, insurance cos bet that you'll live and be healthy and you bet you'll die, that is in essence the concept of life insurance. Wall Street exists because there are people who want to sell and people who want to buy. You make trading carbon credits out to be immoral but it is no more immoral than trading corn futures.
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Dec 7, 2009 7:32 PM CST Climate Change
odessaukraine48
odessaukraine48odessaukraine48odessa, Uzbekistan26 Threads 925 Posts
i think common scene tells you. that all these chemical going in to the air. has to be doing something. since i,m far from a expert on this subject. so is just my view on life.
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Dec 7, 2009 10:03 PM CST Climate Change
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
ooby_dooby: Again I say so what. This is a capitalist country after all and if he's an astute investor he will make lots of money, if not he could lose his shirt. Some hedge funds trade mortgages, insurance cos bet that you'll live and be healthy and you bet you'll die, that is in essence the concept of life insurance. Wall Street exists because there are people who want to sell and people who want to buy. You make trading carbon credits out to be immoral but it is no more immoral than trading corn futures.
Like investing in Halliburton?
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