For anyone interested in chatting about this concept
I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
serene56: For anyone interested in chatting about this concept
I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
What are your thoughts
we should eat multi foods it is necessary by both angles scientific and religious
serene56: For anyone interested in chatting about this concept
I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
Dec 16, 2009 4:19 AM CST Go Veg, Go Green, Save The Planet
steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 Posts
steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 posts
serene56: For anyone interested in chatting about this concept
I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
What are your thoughts
Good on you Serene, my cousin is a vegatarian , we used to go every monday to the Hare Krishna Kitchen in Adelaide they had the most beautiful salads & vegetable combo's oh and an apple crumble to die for.
steve6610: Good on you Serene, my cousin is a vegatarian , we used to go every monday to the Hare Krishna Kitchen in Adelaide they had the most beautiful salads & vegetable combo's oh and an apple crumble to die for.
do you eat seafood or no meat of any kind
hi steve
No, no meat, seafood, chicken etc
I use dairy products though, so I'm not vegan, but I only buy cheese that doesn't involve animal-derived enzymes.
serene56: For anyone interested in chatting about this concept
I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
What are your thoughts
I think that it really has to do with your particular lifestyle. A purely vegetarian or vegan diet is not really suitable for someone who performs sports regularly for example, as protein & iron are less abundant in vegetables than meat.
Speaking about myself, I train sports & martial arts 6 times a week and follow a healthy sports related diet. It mostly involves eating chicken breast, tuna, rice, small amounts of red meat & mixed steamed vegetables.
I'm also a blood donor, and due to the regular physical workouts I do my iron levels tend to be lower than average (iron being one of the first minerals the body consumes during any strenous activity). On one occasion I was prevented from donating blood from my the clinic's doctor as my iron was below the minimum acceptable, and he actually suggested that people with my lifestyle need to eat steak a couple of times a week.
That said, for whoever has the discipline to stick to a purely vegetarian diet, my hat off to them.
Re-the ethics about eating meat, humans are omnivers in nature, so meat is part of our natural diet as well. I don't condone unnecessary cruelty to animals, but I'm not going to deteriorate my health so a chicken can live longer for example.
Nature has evolved with predator & prey species. A lion isn't evil because he kill a gazelle, it's what he needs to survive. So long as humans don't kill more animals than necessary to survive, I don't see any moral dilemma there.
serene56: For anyone interested in chatting about this concept
I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
wulfen: I think that it really has to do with your particular lifestyle. A purely vegetarian or vegan diet is not really suitable for someone who performs sports regularly for example, as protein & iron are less abundant in vegetables than meat.
Speaking about myself, I train sports & martial arts 6 times a week and follow a healthy sports related diet. It mostly involves eating chicken breast, tuna, rice, small amounts of red meat & mixed steamed vegetables.
I'm also a blood donor, and due to the regular physical workouts I do my iron levels tend to be lower than average (iron being one of the first minerals the body consumes during any strenous activity). On one occasion I was prevented from donating blood from my the clinic's doctor as my iron was below the minimum acceptable, and he actually suggested that people with my lifestyle need to eat steak a couple of times a week.
That said, for whoever has the discipline to stick to a purely vegetarian diet, my hat off to them.
Re-the ethics about eating meat, humans are omnivers in nature, so meat is part of our natural diet as well. I don't condone unnecessary cruelty to animals, but I'm not going to deteriorate my health so a chicken can live longer for example.
Nature has evolved with predator & prey species. A lion isn't evil because he kill a gazelle, it's what he needs to survive. So long as humans don't kill more animals than necessary to survive, I don't see any moral dilemma there.
Mind you, I don't condone hunting for sport etc.
Great post wulfen thank you
I'm really interested to hear people's points of view and you have some very valid points. I guess my position on the ethical issue is more about the intensive farming, transportation etc of animals and the effect this has on the environment, besides the obvious animal welfare question
Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer. Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear? Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food. It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.
bjsss: Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer. Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear? Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food. It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.
I'm really interested to hear people's points of view and you have some very valid points. I guess my position on the ethical issue is more about the intensive farming, transportation etc of animals and the effect this has on the environment, besides the obvious animal welfare question
Thanks serene, seeing your views as an open minded vegetarian is refreshing compared to some other fanatics I've seen here
Re-the intensive farming & pollution caused by transportation, I think that that problem would still be there at the end of the day. You still need to grow crops and transport them for processing and consumption. Ok, you're removing a stage where they're going to feed the animals, but you're not eliminating the problem outright.
Re-the environmental impact, it is undoubted that humanity is harming the planet in that sense, but unfortunatelyt the issue has become so politicized (by both industrialists & environmentalists) that it is very difficult to see where the truth is exactly.
I guess, like in many cases it's somewhere in the middle between the 2 extremes, but exactly where, it's anybody's guess
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I've been a vegetarian for a few years now .. at first it was to give it a try (it definitely works for me healthwise) but it quickly became an ethical issue in regard to the production of meat, chicken and fish products for human consumption.
What are your thoughts