The Italians are beginning to rule English football! (72)

Dec 27, 2009 6:33 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
britman1: ---


Here's one example for starters. grin

Socceroos win 3-1 against England

February 14 2003
By Dan Silkstone

Related links:
- Australia v England International Friendly

Australia stunned England in one of the biggest upsets in soccer history today winning 3-1 against a near World Cup strength English team.

The victory was Australia's first win over England and was set up by goals from Tony Popovich and star striker Harry Kewell to give the Socceroos a deserved 2-0 advantage midway through the international friendly at Upton Park in London.



I shall return





cheers
Dec 27, 2009 6:52 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
P.S. ...here's some more, britman...

This time it relates to the Aussie Socceroos and your home country, Germany.

But this will be the last of the examples as it is not on thread topic.

(From Fox Sport)
Michael Ballack warns of World Cup struggle against the Socceroos

By staff writers
December 15, 2009

Germany captain Michael Ballack has tipped Australia to give his side a run for their money in next year's World Cup group stages.
The midfielder says Germany's Group D opponents, the Socceroos, Ghana and Serbia represent a tricky test for his side, despite their depth of history at the finals.


cheers
Dec 27, 2009 7:15 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
victor_meldrew
victor_meldrewvictor_meldrewMK, Buckinghamshire, England UK5 Threads 436 Posts
Well, Mancini's ManCity got off to a winning start against Stoke - bit unconvincing though, and the rumour mill insists that our two best players - Shay Given and Bellamy - are on the way out in January's window for voicing their concerns over the way Hughes was given the boot ....

Man City - SNAFU !!!!
Dec 27, 2009 7:43 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
wulfen
wulfenwulfenCospicua, Xlokk Malta3 Threads 1 Polls 810 Posts
britman1: which clubs are deepest in the red?? isnt it real madrid, some other spanish clubs, and italian clubs as well as they dont generate enough money and the number of spectators of italian league games is decreasing rapidly??? cant really see that english club`s foreign owners would look for another hobby as their hobby now is the best they can have and they know it or (if they are intelligent enough) should be very aware of that fact. hee hee


Actually both Man. Utd. & Liverpool have been revealed to be deep in the red as well, but they still got millions to spend in the last transfer window.

Italian clubs are facing financial difficulteies as after the successful domination they enjoyed during the 90's, they failed to make the necessary developments which the English clubs have done, ie. newer better stadiums, better television rights deals etc. Also, sadly violence in and around stadiums is a common occurrence as the 'ultra' fans are untouchables with the current laws. The Italian clubs & laws need a shakeup like the British did regards hooligans in the 80's in that regard.

Re-the English clubs' foreign owners, they're currently spending plenty of cash bringing in the best foreign players and coaches, which explains their recent successes. Before the big money started to roll in the English Premier, the quality wasn't that high. Most English coaches can't go beyond a basic 4-4-2 system or adapt tactics during the game, which explains why the English top clubs all have foreign coaches at the helm nowadays.

Same goes for the English players, with the sole exception of David Beckham (up to a point), all have failed to leave their mark when playing abroad. Michael Owen was a star at Liverpool, but only a substitute at Real Madrid for example.

Also, what goes around comes around, one day the foreign investors will leave the EPL as Spain, Italy & Germany adapt and up their game, no dominance is ever set in stone (this doesn't apply only to football by the way, just take a look at how many empires have risen throughout history only to fade away once their era had passed).
Dec 27, 2009 7:46 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
wulfen
wulfenwulfenCospicua, Xlokk Malta3 Threads 1 Polls 810 Posts
victor_meldrew: Well, Mancini's ManCity got off to a winning start against Stoke - bit unconvincing though, and the rumour mill insists that our two best players - Shay Given and Bellamy - are on the way out in January's window for voicing their concerns over the way Hughes was given the boot ....

Man City - SNAFU !!!!


Mancini's a good coach tactically, but his relationships with players has always been stormy at best. Despite his 3 league wins with Inter he wasn't certainly a fan favourite either.

It will also be interesting to see how he will behave with Fabio Capello when/if the latter calls up City players to the national team.

There was a famous clash between them a few years ago during a Rome derby (Capello coaching Roma, Mancini coaching Lazio), where they traded quite a few insults in the tunnel at each other, and Mancini had to be restrained forcefully not to lunge at Capello. As far as I know, they have not been on speaking terms since (this happened circa 2000/01).
Dec 27, 2009 7:47 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
I think britman might be attending to his finger.roll eyes

He's gone all quiet..conversing
Dec 27, 2009 11:28 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
victor_meldrew
victor_meldrewvictor_meldrewMK, Buckinghamshire, England UK5 Threads 436 Posts
nice pic, smoky ;) thumbs up
Dec 31, 2009 9:13 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
rossidanny
rossidannyrossidannyWinsford, Cheshire, England UK19 Threads 90 Posts
Manchester United won by 5 nil last night, and we are 2points behind Chelsea going into the new year. Its all looking good for United!!!applause applause applause
Dec 31, 2009 11:34 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
wulfen
wulfenwulfenCospicua, Xlokk Malta3 Threads 1 Polls 810 Posts
rossidanny: Manchester United won by 5 nil last night, and we are 2points behind Chelsea going into the new year. Its all looking good for United!!!


I read the news about Edwin Van der Saar's wife today. As regards stuff like that, there's no club loyalty, rivalry or anything like that, I wish him the best of luck and has my full sympathy.
Dec 31, 2009 7:50 PM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
victor_meldrew
victor_meldrewvictor_meldrewMK, Buckinghamshire, England UK5 Threads 436 Posts
rossidanny: Manchester United won by 5 nil last night, and we are 2points behind Chelsea going into the new year. Its all looking good for United!!!


You beat Wigan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Blind School second XI could beat Wigan ....devil





Also heard about Van Der Saar's wife yesterday - lot of support on the radio for him from both United AND City fans .. I'll add my support, I know what he is going through .
Jan 1, 2010 10:43 AM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
rossidanny
rossidannyrossidannyWinsford, Cheshire, England UK19 Threads 90 Posts
victor_meldrew: You beat Wigan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Blind School second XI could beat Wigan .... Also heard about Van Der Saar's wife yesterday - lot of support on the radio for him from both United AND City fans .. I'll add my support, I know what he is going through .


We have beaten Tottenham twice so far this season, and when Man City played them the other week, they got hammered by them!!
Jan 1, 2010 12:47 PM CST The Italians are beginning to rule English football!
wulfen
wulfenwulfenCospicua, Xlokk Malta3 Threads 1 Polls 810 Posts
rossidanny: We have beaten Tottenham twice so far this season, and when Man City played them the other week, they got hammered by them!!


Still, I think victor is right in this case, haven't Wigan been conceding ridiculous scores against pretty much everyone this year so far?
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