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Jan 9, 2010 8:22 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
Nope, I dont mean in the bedroom department!!

Discussing, arguing (constructively), disagreeing...and the like..

One of my pet peeves is someone who agrees with me all the time, and someone who sits on a fence and wont commit to his or her point..drives me insane..

I enjoy debate, whether it be on here on in my relationship, and it stimulates me. Sometimes I lose my temper, but it usually works out for the better as I can also admit when Im wrong and be submissive if I need to...

I dont want a clone of me, or a push over. I would rather a strong minded individual with whom I can meet a common ground, even if it requires heated debate in the short term.

I admire people with strong beliefs..

What say you???
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Jan 9, 2010 8:40 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA285 Threads 4 Polls 3,082 Posts
I dont argue any more Og but that doesn't negate having strong opinions,
It's when the shouting starts that the climate changes...
Ever been around people who fight because it gets them hot?
And then there's RAGE...my least favorite Mortal Sin....
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Jan 9, 2010 8:41 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
inwestend
inwestendinwestendChengdu, Sichuan China6 Threads 1 Polls 207 Posts
Yeah. Either that or dismiss someone's argument as "small minded".

I agree with you've written here though.
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Jan 9, 2010 8:44 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
wonderworker: I dont argue any more Og but that doesn't negate having strong opinions,
It's when the shouting starts that the climate changes...
Ever been around people who fight because it gets them hot?
And then there's RAGE...my least favorite Mortal Sin....


I dont like arguing for the sake of it, but I do enjoy good, heated debate. I also, as I said, respect people with strong views and the guts to stand up for them. I find it stimulating.

Rage is different to strong passion.handshake
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Jan 9, 2010 8:45 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
inwestend: Yeah. Either that or dismiss someone's argument as "small minded".

I agree with you've written here though.


I respected your strong views, investend..very much so..handshake I like to see that kind of thing. I dont always agree, but its good to see anyway.. Respect to you.handshake

"Lukewarm" is something I dislike intensely..
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Jan 9, 2010 8:59 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA285 Threads 4 Polls 3,082 Posts
ogdensburgbabe: I dont like arguing for the sake of it, but I do enjoy good, heated debate. I also, as I said, respect people with strong views and the guts to stand up for them. I find it stimulating.

Rage is different to strong passion.


No.Rage IS a strong passion.Among the strongest of all.
In chronic form it is usually diagnosed as an "Affective Disorder"
Useful only when there is no alternative but to fight...with fists and weapons.
When you begin screaming at me the "discussion" is over.
Take this cue from One who lived with Rage for a long time.
I understand your position.This is the Antithesis.
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Jan 9, 2010 9:02 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
wonderworker: No.Rage IS a strong passion.Among the strongest of all.
In chronic form it is usually diagnosed as an "Affective Disorder"
Useful only when there is no alternative but to fight...with fists and weapons.
When you begin screaming at me the "discussion" is over.
Take this cue from One who lived with Rage for a long time.
I understand your position.This is the Antithesis.


Yep...

Rage is a negative emotion, and destructive too, unless harnessed correctly.

Passion is, or can be, a positive and extremely character building emotion.
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Jan 9, 2010 9:12 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA11 Threads 1 Polls 4,549 Posts
ogdensburgbabe: Nope, I dont mean in the bedroom department!!

Discussing, arguing (constructively), disagreeing...and the like..

One of my pet peeves is someone who agrees with me all the time, and someone who sits on a fence and wont commit to his or her point..drives me insane..

I enjoy debate, whether it be on here on in my relationship, and it stimulates me. Sometimes I lose my temper, but it usually works out for the better as I can also admit when Im wrong and be submissive if I need to...

I dont want a clone of me, or a push over. I would rather a strong minded individual with whom I can meet a common ground, even if it requires heated debate in the short term.

I admire people with strong beliefs..

What say you???


I like passionate stimulation both physically and intellectually!!

It's nice and very enjoyable to talk to someone that has. at least used their brain, to think about certain concepts and can share them. Speaking to someone that has an opinion about most things is definitely intellectually stimulating and promotes both spiritual and intellectual growth. Talking to someone that can at least understand, see someone else point of view and see things from different angles, without thinking they are always right or their word is the definitive end to all discussions, is a definite plus. Intellectual stimulation is just as important as physical stimulation. I love smart women!! grin cool
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Jan 9, 2010 9:13 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA285 Threads 4 Polls 3,082 Posts
ogdensburgbabe: Yep...

Rage is a negative emotion, and destructive too, unless harnessed correctly.

Passion is, or can be, a positive and extremely character building emotion.


From Funk and Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary:
Passion adj.
Any intense,extreme,or overpoweing emotion.Anger or Rage.Lust.
I believe you are talking of "Hubris"instead.
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Jan 9, 2010 9:17 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
rubendario: I like passionate stimulation both physically and intellectually!!

It's nice and very enjoyable to talk to someone that has. at least used their brain, to think about certain concepts and can share them. Speaking to someone that has an opinion about most things is definitely intellectually stimulating and promotes both spiritual and intellectual growth. Talking to someone that can at least understand, see someone else point of view and see things from different angles, without thinking they are always right or their word is the definitive end to all discussions, is a definite plus. Intellectual stimulation is just as important as physical stimulation. I love smart women!!


Excellent post...thumbs up

Combat is great; knowing when you are wrong is greater..

Being openminded is the the gateway to life, and debate is the only way to really know each other, in my opinion, whether it be with a partner, or a friend of the same sex..handshake
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Jan 9, 2010 9:20 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA11 Threads 1 Polls 4,549 Posts
wonderworker: From Funk and Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary:
Passion adj.
Any intense,extreme,or overpoweing emotion.Anger or Rage.Lust.
I believe you are talking of "Hubris"instead.




4 a (1) : emotion <his ruling passion is greed> (2) plural : the emotions as distinguished from reason b : intense, driving, or overmastering feeling or conviction c : an outbreak of anger
5 a : ardent affection : love b : a strong liking or desire for or devotion to some activity, object, or concept c : s*xual desire d : an object of desire or deep interest

A strong desire to communicate and share ideas and concepts with the opposite sex and get intellectually stimulated. dunno confused grin cool
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Jan 9, 2010 9:24 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
rubendario
rubendariorubendarioHartford, Connecticut USA11 Threads 1 Polls 4,549 Posts
ogdensburgbabe: Excellent post...

Combat is great; knowing when you are wrong is greater..

Being openminded is the the gateway to life, and debate is the only way to really know each other, in my opinion, whether it be with a partner, or a friend of the same sex..


Amen!! The only way to grow and not develop tunnel vision. Grow concepts through open mindedness then they change and develop!!
Once we lock them in place and close them, the growth process is stunted and the mental shallowness begins handshake cheers
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Jan 9, 2010 9:35 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA285 Threads 4 Polls 3,082 Posts
rubendario: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Passion

4 a (1) : emotion <his ruling passion is greed> (2) plural : the emotions as distinguished from reason b : intense, driving, or overmastering feeling or conviction c : an outbreak of anger
5 a : ardent affection : love b : a strong liking or desire for or devotion to some activity, object, or concept c : s*xual desire d : an object of desire or deep interest

A strong desire to communicate and share ideas and concepts with the opposite sex and get intellectually stimulated.


Hubris n.
Arrogance arising from overwhelming conviction or from passion.

The intellectual stimulation is moot when the anger arises.
Og and Ruben describe an intense discussion wherin the parties are not really at odds,even if they disagree.As soon as the topic is adverserial the fun is over.
That IS Rage not some good-natured banter.
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Jan 9, 2010 9:39 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
rubendario: Amen!! The only way to grow and not develop tunnel vision. Grow concepts through open mindedness then they change and develop!!
Once we lock them in place and close them, the growth process is stunted and the mental shallowness begins


Concepts come from tunnel vision. Tunnel vision comes from narrow mindedness. Narrow mindedness comes from lack of courage and the pressure from society not to express views.
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Jan 9, 2010 9:45 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
scorpiosiren
scorpiosirenscorpiosirendrogheda, Louth Ireland35 Threads 1 Polls 1,943 Posts
i love nothing better than a good oul debate/arguement
its good for the soul
ye cant be nice all the time
its great for the bedroom too
love
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Jan 9, 2010 9:45 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
sassy49senior
sassy49seniorsassy49seniorItty Bitty, Nebraska USA379 Threads 6,505 Posts
I guess I am an odd one. I can get plenty of mental stimulation from reading, writing or just paying attention to what goes on around me. wink

Now I am talking about being in a relationship. I do not like to argue with voices raised. I beleive things can be talked out calmly. Also all things in a relationship are not agreed upon and that is fine. There is no perfection, but gosh it is nice to take that romantic passion to the bedroom and make-up.blushing teddybear
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Jan 9, 2010 9:55 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA285 Threads 4 Polls 3,082 Posts
Our definitions of Passion in no way imply open-mindedness or an effort at self-improvement.
You want intellectual banter? Participate in the Religion Forums.They are pure Sophistry.No one gains a perspective,only a sophomoric exercise in rhetoric.
The time-honored exercise in didactics:Express your Strong Opinion---Then REFUTE yourself---you get the whole thing in a nutshell.
Let's consider instead a symposium where Noone HAS the answer and it becomes an investigation.
Like This might be..
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Jan 9, 2010 9:58 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA22 Threads 1,211 Posts
wonderworker: Our definitions of Passion in no way imply open-mindedness or an effort at self-improvement.
You want intellectual banter? Participate in the Religion Forums.They are pure Sophistry.No one gains a perspective,only a sophomoric exercise in rhetoric.
The time-honored exercise in didactics:Express your Strong Opinion---Then REFUTE yourself---you get the whole thing in a nutshell.
Let's consider instead a symposium where Noone HAS the answer and it becomes an investigation.
Like This might be..


Not sure who that post was directed at, Wonder, but I dont need to enter the Bear Pit of the Religious Threads to get into intellectual banter..

The day to day carry on in CS simply adds to my knowledge on human nature, and contributes a great deal to my ability to keep my temper. That is good.

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Jan 9, 2010 9:59 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA285 Threads 4 Polls 3,082 Posts
scorpiosiren: i love nothing better than a good oul debate/arguement
its good for the soul
ye cant be nice all the time
its great for the bedroom too

Like I said....some folks get hot thru argument or a knock-down,drag-out fight.
What do we learn from that bit of information?
"Intellectual" stimulation.....or what?
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Jan 9, 2010 10:00 PM CST Passion in a Relationship..
Lostrebel
LostrebelLostrebelHeuvelton, New York USA11 Threads 957 Posts
smitten grin
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