I need a lawyers advice..... (38)

Jan 17, 2010 10:10 AM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Yesterday I discivered that I lost 500 cds and 2 guitars...
I've lost tax papers,court papers, photo's,silly things my monsters made me, personal letters from home.....lock stock and two smokin''A friend' was looking after them in her garage and when I went to collect them i discoved than 'according to them 'the landlord' turfed the lot out...

Can I charge them(anyone) with loss or theft...or just put it down to experience...

The total figure of the cd's abnd guitars is around 5,000-6,000 euro..
Jan 17, 2010 11:04 AM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
loopylupe1
loopylupe1loopylupe1Plymouth, Devon, England UK6 Posts
Choose your friends more carefullydoh
Jan 17, 2010 11:29 AM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
You must be devastated.

I´m not qualified to advise, but I have a feeling that it´s your responsibility to ensure against theft or loss by, for example, having insurance.

If the landlord story is true though, surely the tenants are within their rights to complain about the stuff being thrown out.

Do you think your "friends" have anything to do with this? If so you may be able to lodge a complaint of theft with the police.
Jan 17, 2010 11:44 AM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Maisie
MaisieMaisielarnaca, Larnaca Cyprus4 Threads 616 Posts
Cd's and guitars can be replaced but letters and keepsakes from your children can't.

Ask her for the landlord's contact details and ask him for his version.
Jan 17, 2010 12:03 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Maisie: Cd's and guitars can be replaced but letters and keepsakes from your children can't.

Ask her for the landlord's contact details and ask him for his version.


Jan_is: Do you think your "friends" have anything to do with this? If so you may be able to lodge a complaint of theft with the police.


I wont know 'the other half' until 7.30am tomorrow...It's the personal things..Stupid things my monsters made me at school..

I'm realy pissed off...
Jan 17, 2010 12:14 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
Poor youhug

I’m not a lawyer, and certainly there are different laws in different countries… but does the explanation “the landlord threw the things out” without notification those who rent the garage hold in France? It sounds phony for me. Here in Sweden the landlord has no access to a tenant’s garage, no one else for that matter but police with a search warrant, without the tenant’s approval.

It can be a theft committed either by your “friend” or someone else with your “friend”s approval, or your “friend” just became tired of your things, or needed the space, and threw your things out. But in any case go to police and report it as a theft.
Jan 17, 2010 1:32 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
wordsmith99
wordsmith99wordsmith99Lyon, Rhone-Alpes France2 Threads 399 Posts
Ask the question on experatoo.com cos they give free legal advice. Other thing you can do free is go to the Prud'Hommes - look em up on pagesjaunes.fr The Prud'Hommes should tell you if you have a case or not... and if so how to go about it.

In the meantime, I suggest you tell your friends that you have an appointment chez les Prud'Hommes in case they just happen to find a couple of expensive guitars behind the wardrobe or something...

Best of luck

xx
Jan 17, 2010 1:57 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
wordsmith99: Ask the question on experatoo.com cos they give free legal advice. Other thing you can do free is go to the Prud'Hommes - look em up on pagesjaunes.fr The Prud'Hommes should tell you if you have a case or not... and if so how to go about it.

In the meantime, I suggest you tell your friends that you have an appointment chez les Prud'Hommes in case they just happen to find a couple of expensive guitars behind the wardrobe or something...

Best of luck

xx


Never thought of thr Prud...thanks for the link..wine
Jan 17, 2010 2:01 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Phoenix: Yesterday I discivered that I lost 500 cds and 2 guitars...
I've lost tax papers,court papers, photo's,silly things my monsters made me, personal letters from home.....lock stock and two smokin''A friend' was looking after them in her garage and when I went to collect them i discoved than 'according to them 'the landlord' turfed the lot out...

Can I charge them(anyone) with loss or theft...or just put it down to experience...

The total figure of the cd's abnd guitars is around 5,000-6,000 euro..
although I saw you throwing vocabularies on me but i am sorry for the lost. and sorry i am not any wise on issues like this but i hop you get your things soon, for is not earsy to lost that amount of EUROS.
Jan 17, 2010 2:07 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
somone4u: although I saw you throwing vocabularies on me but i am sorry for the lost. and sorry i am not any wise on issues like this but i hop you get your things soon, for is not earsy to lost that amount of EUROS.


I'll replace the music easy...this week I'l buy a guitar..it's the personal stuff........
Jan 17, 2010 2:30 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Phoenix: I'll replace the music easy...this week I'l buy a guitar..it's the personal stuff........
you know what? i had a 200Bg externale hard drive and was full of music and now it falldowndoh now the Computer cannot read it and i lost everthing was in there. i am so, so so, sad.so i know how it hurt when shirt like this happen.does anyone here have any idea on what i shall do to recover my data???
Jan 17, 2010 2:35 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
somone4u: you know what? i had a 200Bg externale hard drive and was full of music and now it falldown now the Computer cannot read it and i lost everthing was in there. i am so, so so, sad.so i know how it hurt when shirt like this happen.does anyone here have any idea on what i shall do to recover my data???


I'm on YIM at the moment..that's easy...kids stuff..don't format it..I'll get back to you soon
Jan 17, 2010 2:44 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Phoenix: I'm on YIM at the moment..that's easy...kids stuff..don't format it..I'll get back to you soon
wow, i would be really happy to get help on this, e-mail moi please.
Jan 17, 2010 3:00 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
somone4u: wow, i would be really happy to get help on this, e-mail moi please.


What happened to your HD...????
Jan 17, 2010 3:01 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
When did it stop working...and what does your pc say when you either hook it up or try to access your music???
Jan 17, 2010 3:02 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Phoenix: What happened to your HD...????
fall down. can we go into IM?
Jan 17, 2010 3:09 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Phoenix: When did it stop working...and what does your pc say when you either hook it up or try to access your music???
the computer doesn’t read the HD at all. however, the computer recognize when i plug the HD in and make the normal nois.
Jan 17, 2010 3:13 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
somone4u: fall down. can we go into IM?


give me time to make a joe..what have you XP-vista..win7..or something else..is it a mac...what system have you..put it here..
Jan 17, 2010 4:18 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Phoenix: Yesterday I discivered that I lost 500 cds and 2 guitars...
I've lost tax papers,court papers, photo's,silly things my monsters made me, personal letters from home.....lock stock and two smokin''A friend' was looking after them in her garage and when I went to collect them i discoved than 'according to them 'the landlord' turfed the lot out...

Can I charge them(anyone) with loss or theft...or just put it down to experience...

The total figure of the cd's abnd guitars is around 5,000-6,000 euro..
Phoenix .... I also dont know about international law ... but maybe, maybe, (as in SA) you could go see one of the Court Prosecutors and ask advice?

I did not ever know this ..... but that is their job ... to prosecute criminality and so they do give advice about whether or not they would prosecute in an instance like this - maybe in France they do this too?
Jan 17, 2010 4:28 PM CST I need a lawyers advice.....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
smoky: Phoenix .... I also dont know about international law ... but maybe, maybe, (as in SA) you could go see one of the Court Prosecutors and ask advice?

I did not ever know this ..... but that is their job ... to prosecute criminality and so they do give advice about whether or not they would prosecute in an instance like this - maybe in France they do this too?


Thats what I'm planning on doing tomorrow plus talking to a fairly high up cop I know...

I've resigned myself to losing the personal things..but I'm not letting this go...The music will be replaced and so will the guitars....But someone will pay (not just me)..i know a place not far from me where I can get free legal advice..It just beggars belief..I don't believe they (my stuff) was thrown on the street..500 cd's, guitars....personal papers (it was all in boxes).I RECKON THEY WHERE STOLEN AND THE PAPERS BURNT...

I've an idea what people feel like after losing everything in a house fire...
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