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Jan 17, 2010 1:45 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
In the wake of Haiti, and after watching “The Book of Eli” this weekend, things have got me thinking lately.

The importance of every citizen having basic first aid and survival skills, and the proper equipment on hand in case of emergency, is being further underscored by the number of recent large-scale natural disasters in the world. When access to basic medical and other emergency services is denied for whatever reason, be it a hurricane or massive earthquake, it is often up to the nearest bystander to take a hand in providing critically needed basic procedures.

"A huge segment of the population doesn't even stop to think of where the water comes from when they turn on the tap, or where the electricity comes from when they flip a switch," Rawles says. "That's made our whole society incredibly dependent and incredibly vulnerable." -

To that event, I have begun compiling a list of items necessary to have on hand for the purposes of survival, and for basic first aid and medical procedures, in the very possible event of an emergency situation.

I will post such lists as I have so far:

Medical supplies
Iodine
Hydrogen Peroxide
Surgical Tubing
Gauze Bandages
Ace Bandages
Broad Spectrum Antibiotics (Penicillin & Terramycin)

Tools & Equipment
Shovel
Hammer
Cross-cut saw
Axe
Duct Tape & Electrical Tape
Large & Med. Zip Ties
Roll of Insulated Wire
10' x 20' Tarps

Weapons
2 Machetes
Assorted Knives
.22 Rifle

Ammunition
1000 .22 LR rounds

Food & Water
TBD

Feel free to add any suggestions for the categories that I have aligned or any other categories you can think of. Thanks ahead of time.
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Jan 17, 2010 2:00 PM CST Survival Lists
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: In the wake of Haiti, and after watching “The Book of Eli” this weekend, things have got me thinking lately.

The importance of every citizen having basic first aid and survival skills, and the proper equipment on hand in case of emergency, is being further underscored by the number of recent large-scale natural disasters in the world. When access to basic medical and other emergency services is denied for whatever reason, be it a hurricane or massive earthquake, it is often up to the nearest bystander to take a hand in providing critically needed basic procedures.

"A huge segment of the population doesn't even stop to think of where the water comes from when they turn on the tap, or where the electricity comes from when they flip a switch," Rawles says. "That's made our whole society incredibly dependent and incredibly vulnerable." -

To that event, I have begun compiling a list of items necessary to have on hand for the purposes of survival, and for basic first aid and medical procedures, in the very possible event of an emergency situation.

I will post such lists as I have so far:

Medical supplies
Iodine
Hydrogen Peroxide
Surgical Tubing
Gauze Bandages
Ace Bandages
Broad Spectrum Antibiotics (Penicillin & Terramycin)

Tools & Equipment
Shovel
Hammer
Cross-cut saw
Axe
Duct Tape & Electrical Tape
Large & Med. Zip Ties
Roll of Insulated Wire
10' x 20' Tarps

Weapons
2 Machetes
Assorted Knives
.22 Rifle

Ammunition
1000 .22 LR rounds

Food & Water
TBD

Feel free to add any suggestions for the categories that I have aligned or any other categories you can think of. Thanks ahead of time.


If it doesn't all get washed or blown away, you could include

Beef Jerky
Granola bars
MRE


Flashlight and many batteries
Transistor radio

CB Radio

even a canoe might come in handy.
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Jan 17, 2010 7:19 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
I don't own a shotgun, although I will be adding it to my list. tip hat

Currently I own a lot more hand weapons and projectile weapons with practicable renewable ammunition such as slings, as well as the .22, because .22 LR is cheap and plentiful for stockpiling.

Cordite and the means for cartridge reloading (pre-manufactured primers and brass) will become extremely scarce. My suggestion is researching and obtaining an old Blunderbuss and a recipe for black powder. A Blunderbuss will shoot just about anything from rocks and nails to a lead-style bullet, and black powder is way easier to home manufacture than gun cotton or cordite. Its the home protection version of the 12 gauge from the 17th Century.

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Its not only the tools that will be important, it will be the old-time skill-sets that will be of greatest use. When we depend too much on the complexity or our modern world and its logistical nightmare of macro-managing our Shipping and Receiving, the tiniest glitch in the machine will have unusually large effects globally.

Globalization is a bad idea to me. Chaos math makes it inevitable that civilization will come crumbling down like the house of cards that it is under this model, without the means to sustain our communities locally.

Don't be caught in the rubble, friends. Start networking now for a community that is motivated to retaining the old skill-sets. We're going to need them, sooner or later.
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Jan 17, 2010 7:27 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
In response to: For Rawles, survivalism isn't about preparing for a post-apocalyptic future that may never arrive. It's about reconnecting with other people and embracing the skills needed to cope with the very real world that our grandparents and great-grandparents lived in. Rawles is one of a number of voices, including economist Gary North, who have long argued that the world we've built since then isn't as sturdy as we'd like to think.

And whether or not we're not on the brink of a world-wide depression, getting in touch with how grandpa did stuff could do us some good. "It's one of those things that crosses political lines," Rawles says. "Self-sufficiency is something that appeals to greenies and neo-conservatives."
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Jan 17, 2010 7:29 PM CST Survival Lists
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA201 Threads 2 Polls 1,883 Posts
I have a friend who actually possesses a Blunderbuss.
It is an antique hand held cannon,not efficient or useful for anything except blowing a hole in the wall or close range destruction.
Never a hunting piece.
Get a muzzle-loding black-powder weapon.Versatile.Everything depends on the charge and load.Quail, Elephants or Punks.
cool
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Jan 17, 2010 7:34 PM CST Survival Lists
las63
las63las63Lostinspace, Tennessee USA17 Threads 519 Posts
Guess I'm screwed.All I got are kitchen knives. laugh
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Jan 17, 2010 7:37 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
wonderworker: I have a friend who actually possesses a Blunderbuss.
It is an antique hand held cannon,not efficient or useful for anything except blowing a hole in the wall or close range destruction.
Never a hunting piece.
Get a muzzle-loding black-powder weapon.Versatile.Everything depends on the charge and load.Quail, Elephants or Punks.


Frankly, I want the Blunderbuss for largely intimidation factors. devil

Muzzle-loaders are useful as well, though. I'm thinking a few of them, actually. Much the way people used them in James Fenimore Cooper days, since they're largely single-shot weapons with a complex reloading process.

The issue with muzzle-loaders however is you need a large stock of lead and a way of processing it into somewhat uniform ammunition that won't damage a smooth-bore barrel.
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Jan 17, 2010 7:38 PM CST Survival Lists
USThumper
USThumperUSThumperMexico, New York USA4 Threads 3,957 Posts
las63: Guess I'm screwed.All I got are kitchen knives.
Go back to Wonderworker's or my earlier post. We would be glad to take you on.bouquet bouquet
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Jan 17, 2010 7:39 PM CST Survival Lists
Merri
MerriMerriDefiance, Ohio USA531 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Frankly, I want the Blunderbuss for largely intimidation factors.

Muzzle-loaders are useful as well, though. I'm thinking a few of them, actually. Much the way people used them in James Fenimore Cooper days, since they're largely single-shot weapons with a complex reloading process.

The issue with muzzle-loaders however is you need a large stock of lead and a way of processing it into somewhat uniform ammunition that won't damage a smooth-bore barrel.


How many guns do you own?
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Jan 17, 2010 7:40 PM CST Survival Lists
las63
las63las63Lostinspace, Tennessee USA17 Threads 519 Posts
USThumper: Go back to Wonderworker's or my earlier post. We would be glad to take you on.


Oh I seelaugh laugh
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Jan 17, 2010 7:42 PM CST Survival Lists
Merri
MerriMerriDefiance, Ohio USA531 Posts
las63: Oh I see


See, you will be o.k. laugh
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Jan 17, 2010 7:43 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Merri: How many guns do you own?


Right now all I have is a Ruger 10/22, which is .22 LR. But I have assorted hand weapons from my time in the SCA, such as a sword, battle axe, and several other hand weapons like that.

Don't have any armor right now, although I expect to be getting some 12 gauge wire at some point to make my own butted ring/chain mail.
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Jan 17, 2010 7:44 PM CST Survival Lists
USThumper
USThumperUSThumperMexico, New York USA4 Threads 3,957 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Frankly, I want the Blunderbuss for largely intimidation factors.

Muzzle-loaders are useful as well, though. I'm thinking a few of them, actually. Much the way people used them in James Fenimore Cooper days, since they're largely single-shot weapons with a complex reloading process.

The issue with muzzle-loaders however is you need a large stock of lead and a way of processing it into somewhat uniform ammunition that won't damage a smooth-bore barrel.
A blunderbuss is basicly a primitive muzzle loader. A flintlock rifle with Minnie balls can be reloaded several times a minute by someone who knows how. You want the flintlock because caps for a caplock are about the same as primers for modern weapons. And you dont need a large stock of lead, the bullits aren't that big. cheers
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Jan 17, 2010 7:45 PM CST Survival Lists
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: In the wake of Haiti, and after watching “The Book of Eli” this weekend, things have got me thinking lately.

The importance of every citizen having basic first aid and survival skills, and the proper equipment on hand in case of emergency, is being further underscored by the number of recent large-scale natural disasters in the world. When access to basic medical and other emergency services is denied for whatever reason, be it a hurricane or massive earthquake, it is often up to the nearest bystander to take a hand in providing critically needed basic procedures.

"A huge segment of the population doesn't even stop to think of where the water comes from when they turn on the tap, or where the electricity comes from when they flip a switch," Rawles says. "That's made our whole society incredibly dependent and incredibly vulnerable." -

To that event, I have begun compiling a list of items necessary to have on hand for the purposes of survival, and for basic first aid and medical procedures, in the very possible event of an emergency situation.

I will post such lists as I have so far:

Medical supplies
Iodine
Hydrogen Peroxide
Surgical Tubing
Gauze Bandages
Ace Bandages
Broad Spectrum Antibiotics (Penicillin & Terramycin)

Tools & Equipment
Shovel
Hammer
Cross-cut saw
Axe
Duct Tape & Electrical Tape
Large & Med. Zip Ties
Roll of Insulated Wire
10' x 20' Tarps

Weapons
2 Machetes
Assorted Knives
.22 Rifle

Ammunition
1000 .22 LR rounds

Food & Water
TBD

Feel free to add any suggestions for the categories that I have aligned or any other categories you can think of. Thanks ahead of time.


:-) A good attorney.

You come out of your house after a disaster with a rifle slung across a shoulder, a machete hanging from your belt, long K-Bar on the other side of your hip, an axe strapped to your back, with some camo on your face and red bandana tied around your forehead in torn bdus (ala Rambo) and a offering first aid to victims...I advise a very good attorney be added to the list.

Funny, while we are on the topic of survival. Just finished watching "Heaven Knows Mr. Allison". A fictional WWII movie....about a Marine (armed with only a K-bar and his survival skills) and a lost Nun on a Japanese Island. They made it with 2000 Japanese on the Island. Brohdie, if they had 1/2 the stuff you are packing, they would have thought it was a easy gig.

A clue on good survival. Look at your land.....or area.....and plan to live off it. Then you know what you need to pack.
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Jan 17, 2010 7:45 PM CST Survival Lists
las63
las63las63Lostinspace, Tennessee USA17 Threads 519 Posts
Merri: See, you will be o.k.


Feeling safer already.grin
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Jan 17, 2010 7:48 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
I hear you about caplock weapons. However, if you're protecting a community, you will want a large stock of lead in the event of siege. No matter how small the bullets are, if you cant recover them or forage for more resources, you will want some major poundage on hand. wave
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Jan 17, 2010 7:52 PM CST Survival Lists
Merri
MerriMerriDefiance, Ohio USA531 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Right now all I have is a Ruger 10/22, which is .22 LR. But I have assorted hand weapons from my time in the SCA, such as a sword, battle axe, and several other hand weapons like that.

Don't have any armor right now, although I expect to be getting some 12 gauge wire at some point to make my own butted ring/chain mail.


What does the LR stand for? Sounds like you are living in a castle with all that stuff laugh
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Jan 17, 2010 7:54 PM CST Survival Lists
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
ttom500: :-) A clue on good survival. Look at your land.....or area.....and plan to live off it. Then you know what you need to pack.


Hence the tarps and wood-cutting tools on my list. tip hat

A good portion of Oregon is temperate rain-forest and as such the primary concern is often just staying dry long enough to get anything else done. Thanks. handshake
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Jan 17, 2010 7:55 PM CST Survival Lists
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Galactic_bodhi:
Feel free to add any suggestions for the categories that I have aligned or any other categories you can think of. Thanks ahead of time.


A beautiful, understanding, loving, and beyond awesome woman at my side sure would help make survival in an extreme situation a bit easierlaugh kiss peace Also, I have no problems being stuck on a lush island with said woman.
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Jan 17, 2010 7:56 PM CST Survival Lists
USThumper
USThumperUSThumperMexico, New York USA4 Threads 3,957 Posts
Merri: How many guns do you own?
I've got two 12 ga. pumps, two .22s. two .50 caliber black powder rifles, A 30.06, A .243 winchester. a Russian SKS. a crossbow, and a compound bow. Alomg with various edged weapons. I'd be happy to teach you how to shoot them all if you don't know.bouquet bouquet
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