Getting out of a religion ( Archived) (58)

Jan 21, 2010 7:03 AM CST Getting out of a religion
Blueyes22
Blueyes22Blueyes22Ennis, Dublin Ireland4 Threads 16 Posts
Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William
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Jan 21, 2010 7:06 AM CST Getting out of a religion
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
desireyou: Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William


What????dunno confused

How about just calling yourself an agnosticidea
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Jan 21, 2010 7:06 AM CST Getting out of a religion
jeepers
jeepersjeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)57 Threads 10,968 Posts
If you don't believe in the religion you were born in, why are you concerned about the technicalities ? Just leave. doh


JMO of course. cheers
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Jan 21, 2010 7:27 AM CST Getting out of a religion
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Good for you sir! wine
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Jan 21, 2010 8:54 AM CST Getting out of a religion
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Jan 21, 2010 10:11 AM CST Getting out of a religion
ladyfingers
ladyfingersladyfingersclovis, nm, New Mexico USA261 Threads 1 Polls 5,456 Posts
desireyou: Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William


Just do something that will get you excummunicated.
Honestly! Why don't you just quit going?????
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Jan 21, 2010 10:11 AM CST Getting out of a religion
ladyfingers
ladyfingersladyfingersclovis, nm, New Mexico USA261 Threads 1 Polls 5,456 Posts
sorry, excommunicated.
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Jan 21, 2010 10:13 AM CST Getting out of a religion
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
desireyou: Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William


You left 20 years ago. So what is the problem. dunno
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Jan 21, 2010 10:17 AM CST Getting out of a religion
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
ladyfingers: Just do something that will get you excummunicated.
Honestly! Why don't you just quit going?????
Going by the behaviour of some priests youve got a lot of scope before they chuck you out. Just walk away you are the one who's life it is.
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Jan 21, 2010 10:27 AM CST Getting out of a religion
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
desireyou: Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William




You can download the forms through the links in this video.
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Jan 21, 2010 10:38 AM CST Getting out of a religion
K_rational
K_rationalK_rationalTaipei, Taiwan10 Threads 257 Posts
Englishman55: You left 20 years ago. So what is the problem.


You know what else is in Italy, besides the catholic religion?

The Italian Mafia. And how do the Italian Mafia feel about membership in their organization? "Once you're in, you're in for life."

The catholics feels the same way: once you've been a member, they "think" they have some "right" to your life while you're incapacitated, and some "right" to your corpse after you're dead. Just because the OP stopped attending doesn't mean some priest wouldn't try to use the OP's corpse after he dies.

At least with catholicism one can get out, but only by explicitly saying so. But even then, they'll probably try to ignore a person's wishes.
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Jan 21, 2010 10:45 AM CST Getting out of a religion
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
K_rational: You know what else is in Italy, besides the catholic religion?

The Italian Mafia. And how do the Italian Mafia feel about membership in their organization? "Once you're in, you're in for life."

The catholics feels the same way: once you've been a member, they "think" they have some "right" to your life while you're incapacitated, and some "right" to your corpse after you're dead. Just because the OP stopped attending doesn't mean some priest wouldn't try to use the OP's corpse after he dies.

At least with catholicism one can get out, but only by explicitly saying so. But even then, they'll probably try to ignore a person's wishes.


Then why not, as a human being, just ignore the wishes of the church !
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Jan 21, 2010 10:47 AM CST Getting out of a religion
gingerb
gingerbgingerbLetterkenny, Donegal Ireland7 Threads 1 Polls 4,139 Posts
K_rational: You know what else is in Italy, besides the catholic religion?

The Italian Mafia. And how do the Italian Mafia feel about membership in their organization? "Once you're in, you're in for life."

The catholics feels the same way: once you've been a member, they "think" they have some "right" to your life while you're incapacitated, and some "right" to your corpse after you're dead. Just because the OP stopped attending doesn't mean some priest wouldn't try to use the OP's corpse after he dies.

At least with catholicism one can get out, but only by explicitly saying so. But even then, they'll probably try to ignore a person's wishes.


They cannot by law ignore your wishes..... If you have downloaded the forms, (see video link above), fill them, and give them to your local bishop, then they have to send them on to Rome and you get an an acknowledgement back. I know people who have done this. It is really easy if you take the time to do it.wine
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Jan 21, 2010 10:53 AM CST Getting out of a religion
K_rational
K_rationalK_rationalTaipei, Taiwan10 Threads 257 Posts
Englishman55: Then why not, as a human being, just ignore the wishes of the church !


Clearly the point went right over your head or you didn't bother to read carefully.

I was talking about when a person is incapacitated, unable to defend himself against religious violation by being injured, unconscious, comatose, or dead.

Do you expect a dead person to get up and tell a priest to shove off and stop saying "last rites"? Or do you not know the meaning of the word incapacitated?

And all of that was said without any sarcasm, derision or invective.
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Jan 21, 2010 11:04 AM CST Getting out of a religion
desireyou: Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William
There is a resignation form you receive when you leave on Sunday.angel angel angel angel
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Jan 21, 2010 11:11 AM CST Getting out of a religion
Bikerman45
Bikerman45Bikerman45St Helens, Merseyside, England UK1 Threads 18 Posts
I think all religions should be banned after all they are the biggest causes of war's the world has ever known!
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Jan 21, 2010 11:16 AM CST Getting out of a religion
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
K_rational: Clearly the point went right over your head or you didn't bother to read carefully.

I was talking about when a person is incapacitated, unable to defend himself against religious violation by being injured, unconscious, comatose, or dead.

Do you expect a dead person to get up and tell a priest to shove off and stop saying "last rites"? Or do you not know the meaning of the word incapacitated?

And all of that was said without any sarcasm, derision or invective.


Yes I did read what was written carefully, and no the point didn't go right over my head at all, but I did assume that the OP lived in a country similar to mine where we have such a document known as a "WILL"
The last Will and Testament" of a person is a legal document, not a religious one and once written cannot under 99.99% of cases be reversed.

That is to say... if you make a will stating you do not wish for a priest to get hold of your corpse then there is nothing the priest can do about it.

"wills" can be written at any time in ones life, while a person is still sane, not injured, comotose or incapacitated.

The OP is none of the above.... suggest he writes one now.

To save you getting on your high horse again, I will gladly apologise for making an assumption within a thread.

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Jan 21, 2010 11:22 AM CST Getting out of a religion
When I was in hospital (hospital is a noun not a verb when are you Brits gonna get it right?) But I digress. Anyway, when I was laid up with a ruptured disc a catholic priest came into my room and said I see by your admission form that you're a catholic (I have no idea who put that on there). I said "No I'm an atheist but I would love to debate the topic with you". The priest turned around and walked out.confused
The thought that immediately went through my mind was "Man, what a wuss!"
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Jan 21, 2010 11:28 AM CST Getting out of a religion
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
desireyou: Anyone any idea how to formally resign from the Catholic religion I was born into but have not believed in for prob twenty years now .No intention of taking up any other or nothing against other believers but I really want to lose the label so to speak..William


Heres how some other people dealt with it:



My main reason for doing this would be to stop the false impressions which are given when people continue to be counted as still belonging to a religion - the numbers presented are years out of date and miles from the actuality of attendees.

When I was a child, brought up in Catholicism myself, I was led to believe that if a full year went by without attending communion, there was an automatic excommunication penalty. If this is correct then surely this should be reflected in the numbers used to show how many adherents there truly are.

The final point at the bottom of the link is relevant to the 1998 data protection act which outlines this; " Section 14 which requires (upon application to a court to enforce this) an institution to rectify, block, erase or destroy data held about an individual that contains an expression of opinion which appears to the court to be based on the inaccurate data – would being counted as a Catholic (or C of E etc) be inaccurate data if the individual is clearly not a Catholic?"
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Jan 21, 2010 11:30 AM CST Getting out of a religion
ooby_dooby: When I was in (The) hospital (hospital is a noun not a verb when are you Brits gonna get it right?) But I digress. Anyway, when I was laid up with a ruptured disc a catholic priest came into my room and said I see by your admission form that you're a catholic (I have no idea who put that on there). I said "No I'm an atheist but I would love to debate the topic with you". The priest turned around and walked out.
The thought that immediately went through my mind was "Man, what a wuss!"
My orig post had the word THE surrounded by square brackets and therefore didn't appear, I guess it has to do with text formatting.
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