If god is all powerfull? ( Archived) (26)

Mar 9, 2010 6:27 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
bob1959
bob1959bob1959otisfield, Maine USA54 Threads 3 Polls 1,874 Posts
Can he make a rock so big that he himself can't lift it??
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Mar 9, 2010 6:42 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
mickybwoy
mickybwoymickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK31 Threads 2,075 Posts
bob1959: Mickster, Moves the immovable object. You brute. I want to date you myself.
dont do beards...unless you can do handstands rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing laugh oh you know weight of the universe an all that!dunno cheers cheers thumbs up laugh
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Mar 9, 2010 6:45 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
HappyFawn
HappyFawnHappyFawnSpringfield, Missouri USA81 Posts
bob1959: Can he make a rock so big that he himself can't lift it??
Not for God but if he made a simple human like Jesus do it, then yep it's easy to overdo the size of that rock I would guess..laugh
Cause if you think about all these plants in space, big rocks, he is lifting them tongue rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 9, 2010 6:46 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
HappyFawn
HappyFawnHappyFawnSpringfield, Missouri USA81 Posts
HappyFawn: Not for God but if he made a simple human like Jesus do it, then yep it's easy to overdo the size of that rock I would guess..
Cause if you think about all these planets in space, big rocks, he is lifting them
I had my first typing error..doh laugh
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Mar 9, 2010 6:47 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
bob1959
bob1959bob1959otisfield, Maine USA54 Threads 3 Polls 1,874 Posts
mickybwoy: dont do beards...unless you can do handstands oh you know weight of the universe an all that!
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 9, 2010 6:48 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
bob1959
bob1959bob1959otisfield, Maine USA54 Threads 3 Polls 1,874 Posts
HappyFawn: Not for God but if he made a simple human like Jesus do it, then yep it's easy to overdo the size of that rock I would guess..
Cause if you think about all these plants in space, big rocks, he is lifting them
So, he's not all powerfull. He can't make a rock that big?
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Mar 9, 2010 7:07 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
Well,you'll never see me fighting GOD again....








































tongue Yeah right...lol
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Mar 9, 2010 7:13 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
HappyFawn
HappyFawnHappyFawnSpringfield, Missouri USA81 Posts
bob1959: So, he's not all powerfull. He can't make a rock that big?
Or he is so powerful that it always negates the size no matter what as in Infinity....applause tongue tongue
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Mar 9, 2010 7:23 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
The most sophisticated argument is that a god could be "all-powerful" in the sense that it could perform anything that is permitted by reality to perform.

If you think that's a tad lame, I would echo your sentiment. laugh head banger

Most if not all of the defining characteristics of Judeo-Christian god either logically contradictory or incoherent, or lead to highly problematic claims re its nature.

For example, consider a being that knows everything. What need would it have of thought? And in what sense could it will anything? hmmm
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Mar 9, 2010 7:27 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
mickybwoy
mickybwoymickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK31 Threads 2,075 Posts
Ambrose2007: The most sophisticated argument is that a god could be "all-powerful" in the sense that it could perform anything that is permitted by reality to perform.

If you think that's a tad lame, I would echo your sentiment.

Most if not all of the defining characteristics of Judeo-Christian god either logically contradictory or incoherent, or lead to highly problematic claims re its nature.

For example, consider a being that knows everything. What need would it have of thought? And in what sense could it will anything?
would it not be thinking it thought everything?? just a thought!dunno dunno rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 9, 2010 7:30 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
Reminds me of an episode of THE SIMPSONS...WHERE HOMER AND BARNEY fought over customers for their respective snow removal companies,and at the end of the episode they decided to join together and be partners,and Homer said,''We're gonna be so powerful,not even God can STOP us!!!!''

And you see a DEEP voice come out of the heavens....that said,''OHHH YEAH????!!!!''

...And the clouds broke away,and the sun came out,and all the snow melted...


And Barney and Homer broke down and cried.

lol
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Mar 9, 2010 7:31 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
mickybwoy: would it not be thinking it thought everything?? just a thought!


But wouldn't it already know the results of it thinking about thought? And so on, ad infinitum.

Reminds me of a joke I once heard. But I already know the punch line. laugh confused angel
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Mar 9, 2010 7:32 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
mickybwoy
mickybwoymickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK31 Threads 2,075 Posts
Ambrose2007: But wouldn't it already know the results of it thinking about thought? And so on, ad infinitum.

Reminds me of a joke I once heard. But I already know the punch line.
confused confused doh cheers
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Mar 9, 2010 7:51 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
HappyFawn
HappyFawnHappyFawnSpringfield, Missouri USA81 Posts
thewall2: Reminds me of an episode of THE SIMPSONS...WHERE HOMER AND BARNEY fought over customers for their respective snow removal companies,and at the end of the episode they decided to join together and be partners,and Homer said,''We're gonna be so powerful,not even God can STOP us!!!!''

And you see a DEEP voice come out of the heavens....that said,''OHHH YEAH????!!!!''

...And the clouds broke away,and the sun came out,and all the snow melted...And Barney and Homer broke down and cried.

lol
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 9, 2010 7:55 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
mickybwoy
mickybwoymickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK31 Threads 2,075 Posts
thewall2: Reminds me of an episode of THE SIMPSONS...WHERE HOMER AND BARNEY fought over customers for their respective snow removal companies,and at the end of the episode they decided to join together and be partners,and Homer said,''We're gonna be so powerful,not even God can STOP us!!!!''

And you see a DEEP voice come out of the heavens....that said,''OHHH YEAH????!!!!''

...And the clouds broke away,and the sun came out,and all the snow melted...And Barney and Homer broke down and cried.

lol
now thats clever lolrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing cheers
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Mar 10, 2010 6:28 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
thewall2: Well,you'll never see me fighting GOD again....

Yeah right...lol
giggle giggle giggle giggle
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Mar 10, 2010 6:45 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
Ambrose2007: The most sophisticated argument is that a god could be "all-powerful" in the sense that it could perform anything that is permitted by reality to perform.

If you think that's a tad lame, I would echo your sentiment.

Most if not all of the defining characteristics of Judeo-Christian god either logically contradictory or incoherent, or lead to highly problematic claims re its nature.

For example, consider a being that knows everything. What need would it have of thought? And in what sense could it will anything?


Seems paradoxical doesn't it?. joy

but ... scold

It would require thought to perform repetition in order to keep it alive and in a conscious state of awareness. tongue


This is a message from gawd. grin
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Mar 10, 2010 6:50 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
conjor
conjorconjorSmithfield, North Carolina USA61 Threads 2,056 Posts
Ambrose2007: But wouldn't it already know the results of it thinking about thought? And so on, ad infinitum.

Reminds me of a joke I once heard. But I already know the punch line.
Man;Your finger typing is just as twisted as your mind is....laugh laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 10, 2010 6:53 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Beats me why you give the entity or energy or whatever you call God, human (of all things) charactristics........

The supposed creator of all things, being limited to human qualities is just ludicrous........

Sometimes, it appears, the ego knows no bounds, even to limiting their God's abilities in keeping with their own........doh
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Mar 10, 2010 6:54 PM CST If god is all powerfull?
Nothing to do with the rock.


If God exists and powerful then why is there so much suffering in the world?
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