bob1959: Can he make a rock so big that he himself can't lift it??
Not for God but if he made a simple human like Jesus do it, then yep it's easy to overdo the size of that rock I would guess.. Cause if you think about all these plants in space, big rocks, he is lifting them
HappyFawn: Not for God but if he made a simple human like Jesus do it, then yep it's easy to overdo the size of that rock I would guess.. Cause if you think about all these planets in space, big rocks, he is lifting them
HappyFawn: Not for God but if he made a simple human like Jesus do it, then yep it's easy to overdo the size of that rock I would guess.. Cause if you think about all these plants in space, big rocks, he is lifting them
So, he's not all powerfull. He can't make a rock that big?
The most sophisticated argument is that a god could be "all-powerful" in the sense that it could perform anything that is permitted by reality to perform.
If you think that's a tad lame, I would echo your sentiment.
Most if not all of the defining characteristics of Judeo-Christian god either logically contradictory or incoherent, or lead to highly problematic claims re its nature.
For example, consider a being that knows everything. What need would it have of thought? And in what sense could it will anything?
mickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK2,075 posts
Ambrose2007: The most sophisticated argument is that a god could be "all-powerful" in the sense that it could perform anything that is permitted by reality to perform.
If you think that's a tad lame, I would echo your sentiment.
Most if not all of the defining characteristics of Judeo-Christian god either logically contradictory or incoherent, or lead to highly problematic claims re its nature.
For example, consider a being that knows everything. What need would it have of thought? And in what sense could it will anything?
would it not be thinking it thought everything?? just a thought!
Reminds me of an episode of THE SIMPSONS...WHERE HOMER AND BARNEY fought over customers for their respective snow removal companies,and at the end of the episode they decided to join together and be partners,and Homer said,''We're gonna be so powerful,not even God can STOP us!!!!''
And you see a DEEP voice come out of the heavens....that said,''OHHH YEAH????!!!!''
...And the clouds broke away,and the sun came out,and all the snow melted...
thewall2: Reminds me of an episode of THE SIMPSONS...WHERE HOMER AND BARNEY fought over customers for their respective snow removal companies,and at the end of the episode they decided to join together and be partners,and Homer said,''We're gonna be so powerful,not even God can STOP us!!!!''
And you see a DEEP voice come out of the heavens....that said,''OHHH YEAH????!!!!''
...And the clouds broke away,and the sun came out,and all the snow melted...And Barney and Homer broke down and cried.
mickybwoysheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK2,075 posts
thewall2: Reminds me of an episode of THE SIMPSONS...WHERE HOMER AND BARNEY fought over customers for their respective snow removal companies,and at the end of the episode they decided to join together and be partners,and Homer said,''We're gonna be so powerful,not even God can STOP us!!!!''
And you see a DEEP voice come out of the heavens....that said,''OHHH YEAH????!!!!''
...And the clouds broke away,and the sun came out,and all the snow melted...And Barney and Homer broke down and cried.
Ambrose2007: The most sophisticated argument is that a god could be "all-powerful" in the sense that it could perform anything that is permitted by reality to perform.
If you think that's a tad lame, I would echo your sentiment.
Most if not all of the defining characteristics of Judeo-Christian god either logically contradictory or incoherent, or lead to highly problematic claims re its nature.
For example, consider a being that knows everything. What need would it have of thought? And in what sense could it will anything?
Seems paradoxical doesn't it?.
but ...
It would require thought to perform repetition in order to keep it alive and in a conscious state of awareness.
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