When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance? ( Archived) (22)

Aug 28, 2006 6:53 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
How many times can you listen to someone moaning and groaning about the same old things in the constant calls for attention, before you call a halt and suggest that professional councilling may be their only hope?

Or is that too harsh and unkind and should you continue to be brought down yourself by such a person.

I have had to distance myself from someone like this because they brought me down too, but wonder would it have been kinder to have been brutal enough to say to them, seek professional help?

What would you do?

peace devil
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Aug 28, 2006 6:55 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
Like any good relationship, it is about give and take...

If he/she is a taker all the time, then it robs you of your energy and spirit....

My advice is to get brutally honest with them.
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Aug 28, 2006 6:59 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
WindRider
WindRiderWindRiderPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania USA11 Threads 602 Posts
Some times people need a good kick to get out their depression and others just need a hug and kind words. If someone is down all the time and nothing works I would try to send them for professional help.. lets say if was going on for 2 months or more..
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Aug 28, 2006 6:59 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
boombox06108
boombox06108boombox06108East Hartford, Connecticut USA5 Posts
I think that as long as it doesnt bring you down listening to their problems and feelings should be unlimited because someday you may need someone to talk to and you can turn to them but when it gets bad enough to where it starts affecting your life thats when you need to talk to them about it and suggest it. Its not to harsh to say something like hey I really care about you but I think that you would be better off talking to someone with more experience then me about this. This way you don't lose a friend and you get them the help they really need. Or if you can learn to let it not affect your life then just keep listening
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Aug 28, 2006 6:59 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Bagelo
BageloBageloWiltshire, England UK12 Threads 281 Posts
I've been in that boat too, and now I kindly state that if the person doesn't like the situation then they need to make a change. Moaning about it to me is not going to alter the predicament !!!

I recently distanced myself from a friend after she texted me and asked me to dump her husband for her !!!! Nice girl, only slightly mentally unstable !!!!

wine
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Aug 28, 2006 6:59 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Illuminate
IlluminateIlluminateKathleen, Georgia USA21 Threads 1,878 Posts
Thats easy Siren...sometimes ya can't spare there feelings if they refuse to grow....

Just be blunt with um...

And if there still dense about it....then just ignore them...maybee they'll figure it out.
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Aug 28, 2006 6:59 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
That is the trouble, they take, take, take, you are right the spirit weakens.

devil
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Aug 28, 2006 7:00 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Meilandra
MeilandraMeilandraEden Prairie, Minnesota USA25 Threads 1,186 Posts
"I really care about you and hate to see you having so much pain and trouble. I wish I had the skills to help you, because I feel bad that just listening to you try to figure this out yourself doesn't seem to be working, and I obviously haven't been able to help much with this.

Would you please try to find someone, perhaps a professional, who can help you sort through this in a much quicker and much more effective way, so you can be happy again? I really want that for you!"


How's that?

The truth is rarely "brutal" when it comes from your heart; sometimes you just have to think a bit what the underlying love is trying to say. hug
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Aug 28, 2006 7:06 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
I give people the means to change their situation.

If they do not even try, I move on.

Some love to wallow in the safety of it is not my fault, I have had all this bad stuff and haven't had a fair chance.

I have many many times had people moan about I need money so bad. I say ok! here is how to make some. They make up anything they can to not do it. I move on.

All in all, I have found that if a person is busting their butt to improve.....help them. If they are not trying....Don't waste your time.

They will find someone else to piss and moan to.

Funny! they never piss and moan to each other, They always find someone who is working their butt off and waste their time.
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Aug 28, 2006 7:06 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
^^^^^^^^^^

Do you see how I am under her?

Support anytime...with the little give and take....
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Aug 28, 2006 7:15 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
...."Funny! they never piss and moan to each other, They always find someone who is working their butt off and waste their time"....


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 28, 2006 7:17 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
"A friend in need is a friend indeed"???????

Or should this one state; A friend in constant need, is a friend of greed....
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Aug 28, 2006 7:35 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
Mike1162
Mike1162Mike1162Over the Rainbow, Pennsylvania USA70 Threads 1,694 Posts
I have a friend that after 20 years of marriage decided enough was enough and sent the man packing. Although now she was left with the house, the bills, the car, twin daughters, and no job. Hmmmmmm needless to say she became a basketcase rather quickly.

So she turns to the only friend she has left (so it seems to her). Now everytime a bad decision or a wrong turn in life comes along I get the phone call or a visit which is fine since I am glad to help a friend in need.

Friends are there for friends. Even if that means telling the friend to seek professional help, which I did. I am glad I did because she got the professional help and I was the friend that forced her to see that she needed professional help.
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Aug 28, 2006 8:46 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
I have also had a friend who only called me to whine & complain.I know that friends are supposed to be there for each other.However after listening & giving advice for so long I was getting depressed myself.Alot of her problems were brought on herself & she wasn't doing anything to change her way of life.Eventually I told her I couldn't talk to her for a while.We didn't talk for a little over a year.Then I saw in the newspaper where she had a baby & it died 9 days later.So,of course I called her up.We've been talking again now for about a year and half.However,it's the same old thing every time I talk to her.I guess some people just enjoy being depressed.She was on drepression meds for a while but she stopped taking them.She said she didn't like how they made her feel.
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Aug 28, 2006 9:13 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
Unfortunately, there are people in this world who only want someone to cry to. They have no interest in getting help, or in fixing the problem. Listening to a person's constant belly aching hurts you more than helps them.
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Aug 28, 2006 9:17 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
chrissy87
chrissy87chrissy87Findlay, Ohio USA38 Threads 998 Posts
Yeah I'd have to agree with ya there.The sad thing is we've been friends for 14yrs.I love her to death,but it just tears me up seeing how she is destroying her life.Not only her life but her 7yr old sons as well.
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Aug 28, 2006 9:20 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
Everyone on this planet has the ability to change one person. Unfortunately, far too many people refuse to do so.
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Aug 28, 2006 9:21 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
schmorbraten
schmorbratenschmorbratenCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany33 Threads 1,462 Posts
After the x-reply i would tell the one to move on in life.
No matter who it would be.
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Aug 28, 2006 9:53 AM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
Yes your all so right, you can only do so much for someone, if they are unwilling to help save themselves, then you have to save yourself.
It's like the old saying, misery loves company.
Only trouble is the company cannot always love misery!



peace devil
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Aug 28, 2006 12:05 PM CST When does a friend in need become a needy nuisance?
damion1
damion1damion1123 Posts
the more you do for someone the more they want from you and sometimes it does piss you off yay
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