Canada, and being Canadian (191)
nanners2863Cayuga, Ontario Canada38 Threads 3,355 Postskidatheart: Would a nice piece of wood as bait be a better way of coaxing beavers to come out and play?
That might work..but I know beavers prefer hard wood....
nanners2863: That might work..but I know beavers prefer hard wood....
I was thinking some juicy cedar, moisture resistant, nice texture, somewhat flexible, and a very unique grain pattern.
nanners2863: I know beavers prefer hard wood....
I can do anything you wish. I wish to know you. And then...
KHD100: No I do not feel we have a national identity. Canada is a melting pot for all kinds. When we came we had no welcoming committee, or free money or handouts. From what I have learned from people who immigrated here yrs ago, ones my age, and older, they came here to make a better life, and worked hard to get it. They had very little to start with, and for some, a suit case with a a change of clothes if they were lucky.
I see the farmers who came over from Europe, who lived in shanties, and lived off the land, through disaster after disaster. I listen to the ones who went to war etc. If I want to know what being Canadian is... I look at them. People who never gave up, and kept on going to build Canada which is still a new country compared to others. I see our Ukrainian neighbor growing his vegetables, and flowers, speaking his language, and on the other side, our German neighbor speaking this language and growing a garden but with some differences in what they grown. And then I see my parents and friends who came from Ireland growing and different garden. All three neighbors help each other, or show up at the door when they have an abundance of things and share it. I see them talking over the fence, different music playing. Did you ever see 3 men from 3 different countries discussing their love of hockey to each other? My parents had a friend from Africa. He was also included in this group. I always found it fascinating to watch all of them talk with their different accents, patting each other on the shoulder, laughing and sometimes disagreeing (but not in a bad way).
The women were strong. All four worked outside the house, raised kids, houses were decorated differently, but their door was always open.
If I had to choose what is Canadian... to me that is it.
My parents and I were not born here. I grew up here. I loved the arts of all types. The group of 7, jmo is unique and Canadian as far as I am concerned. Canada has beautiful sea coasts, lakes and mountains (not including the polluted ones.)
I see the farmers who came over from Europe, who lived in shanties, and lived off the land, through disaster after disaster. I listen to the ones who went to war etc. If I want to know what being Canadian is... I look at them. People who never gave up, and kept on going to build Canada which is still a new country compared to others. I see our Ukrainian neighbor growing his vegetables, and flowers, speaking his language, and on the other side, our German neighbor speaking this language and growing a garden but with some differences in what they grown. And then I see my parents and friends who came from Ireland growing and different garden. All three neighbors help each other, or show up at the door when they have an abundance of things and share it. I see them talking over the fence, different music playing. Did you ever see 3 men from 3 different countries discussing their love of hockey to each other? My parents had a friend from Africa. He was also included in this group. I always found it fascinating to watch all of them talk with their different accents, patting each other on the shoulder, laughing and sometimes disagreeing (but not in a bad way).
The women were strong. All four worked outside the house, raised kids, houses were decorated differently, but their door was always open.
If I had to choose what is Canadian... to me that is it.
My parents and I were not born here. I grew up here. I loved the arts of all types. The group of 7, jmo is unique and Canadian as far as I am concerned. Canada has beautiful sea coasts, lakes and mountains (not including the polluted ones.)
Ok, back to our regularly scheduled programming....
Yes, I've seen it quite a few times, people of different backgrounds getting together to hang out, chat and enjoy each other's company. Going to my dad's house at Christmas is a bit like a United Nations meeting with all the different people.
I'm first generation, my parents came from Europe, and met here, then married. I've seen, and lived through the difficulties that some immigrants face, with language, customs, laws, etc. It's not always easy, but I'm sure a lot better than it was 50 or 100 years ago.
After living in a few small towns around Alberta, and travelling around with work, hunting, and junk collecting, I've had the opportunity to chat with a lot of people. I've heard stories of what life was like, the way people lived, and their experiences. All very interesting, and time well spent.
It's a beautiful country, but also very harsh, as far as weather and terrain are concerned. Being in a city isn't as bad, but once you leave, it can be quite challenging.
skinnyminnypink: this is the basic national identity question .... we have a greater mulitiplicity of nationalities in Ireland than ever before, and I work in an area where there would be constant interaction with new people ... every time I go to interview someone, I think that it is really important to remember how the Irish were welcomed into new communities in the past .... our identity does not dilute but may actually improve???? JMO
I think most countries are experiencing this, although it's the norm since the beginning here in Canada. I think it's a great thing, to have more mixing of cultures, people, languages, as everyone brings something to the table. Different perspectives, talents and experiences help make people who they are.
No reason to forget where one's roots are from though, nor should they be expected to. It may be difficult to fit in, but if people help each other, learn a bit, try to understand, we'll all find we're not that different after all.
Not easy, but life rarely is.
woodman1: I can do anything you wish. I wish to know you. And then...
Christmas1: That is a whole other issue. You notice I didn't pick provinces, I picked the whole of Canada. My Canada. Each post is individual. If your Canada includes talking about provinces, then that is your Canada. Just explaining why I chose not to take on another subject altogether. I am not saying you don't have good reason to feel the way you do. If you want to start a thread about Quebec from your perspective I am sure you will get responses.
I think every region in Canada is a little different than the others, although it doesn't neccessarily mean each province.
Atlantic Canada is different then Quebec, and Ontario is different than BC, etc...
We have 50 pages to fill, so plenty of room for everyone's story.
kidatheart: What does being a Canadian mean to you?
How do you identify yourself and relate in the mix of cultures we have living together in Canada?
Do we actually have a national identity?
How do you identify yourself and relate in the mix of cultures we have living together in Canada?
Do we actually have a national identity?
It means that me and my ancestors call this country our home, and our roots are deep. We definitely have a national identity, but there are those who want to come in and change that.
kidatheart: I was actually hoping that you could share a little about how Quebec is different, or similar, as a "distinct society". Seeing as you live there, you'd probably be better explaining it than others, if you could be so kind.
Anyone else is welcome to add their own perspective on this as well.
The US influence is definately changing the way people think, act, and not always in a positive way. I don't remember any gangs/gangsters when I was a kid, other than the mob and motorcycle "clubs". Now it's seen as cool, and a "way of life".
Hollywood has also had an influence, and although I don't agree with the CRTC's Canadian content laws, I don't think we have as many people watching Canadian movies/television, or even recognising what is Canadian.
Aboriginal/Metis culture is as old as anything else in the country, and might also play a role in how we see ourselves. As being connected with the outdoors, wildlife, and elements. This may not apply to everyone, but I see it as a part of being Canadian myself.
Anyone else is welcome to add their own perspective on this as well.
The US influence is definately changing the way people think, act, and not always in a positive way. I don't remember any gangs/gangsters when I was a kid, other than the mob and motorcycle "clubs". Now it's seen as cool, and a "way of life".
Hollywood has also had an influence, and although I don't agree with the CRTC's Canadian content laws, I don't think we have as many people watching Canadian movies/television, or even recognising what is Canadian.
Aboriginal/Metis culture is as old as anything else in the country, and might also play a role in how we see ourselves. As being connected with the outdoors, wildlife, and elements. This may not apply to everyone, but I see it as a part of being Canadian myself.
People don’t use the term « distinct society » as much since the two failed accords (Meech Lake Accord & Charlottetown Accord) which took place between 1987/1992 to recognize the province of Quebec as a distinct society.
But in 1995 the Federal government at the time (Liberals under Jean Chretien) did recognize Quebec as a distinct society though this term is not included in the constitution. Nowadays the term “nation” is mostly used and in 2006 the Federal House of Commons voted to recognize Quebecers as a nation within Canada and this mostly because of its laws (civil law-Napoleonic Code instead of common law- British legal system in the rest of Canada), its language, its culture and its religion, mostly Catholic as compared to mostly Protestant in the rest of Canada.
What Quebec has been doing is trying to protect not only the French language but also its people the majority of whom speak and write French so here is some information on the language Bills passed by Quebec’s National Assembly.
First of all as we all know Canada has two official languages; French & English “Official Languages Act” 1969 and amended in 1988 which promotes bilingualism but at the provincial level only New Brunswick is officially bilingual and only Quebec is officially unilingual. In all three of Canada’s Territories French & English are the official languages though in Nunavut Inuktitut is also an official language.
As far as Quebec is concerned before 1974 it had no official language and (Bill 22) “Quebec’s Language Act” was passed and it made French the official language of Quebec, it was then supplanted by (Bill 101) “Charter of the French language” in 1977. Bill 101 was then amended by the “Constitution Act 1982” which defined the educational right of French and English minorities in all provinces under section 23 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms which means an English Canadian coming to Quebec from another province would have the same rights as a French Canadian going to that province as far as educational rights are concerned.
While at it I want to add that many tend to see Quebecers as separatist who want to separate from the rest of Canada but this is false. Quebec has had two referendums (1980 & 1995) during mandates of the Parti Québécois “provincial separatist party” but both times the majority of Quebecers voted (no) to separation.
I'd also like to add that most of this information was googled and I wanted to give a general idea and not go into details.
mychelle: It means that me and my ancestors call this country our home, and our roots are deep. We definitely have a national identity, but there are those who want to come in and change that.
Come in from where, change what?
I see the entire world changing, and that is the only true constant, change.
I'd like to hear your perspective on what our national identity is.
kidatheart: Ok, back to our regularly scheduled programming....
You crack me up, Kid!Onlyguy: Bienvenue
Yes I’ve heard of Alberta wanting to separate because some claim it to be culturally distinct from the rest of Canada and because of aid given to other provinces due to the federal transfer payment program.
I’ve also heard about the west grouping together (Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia) to separate from the rest of Canada and another was Alberta and British Columbia separating from the rest of Canada. I believe the reasons behind this have more to do with wealth than anything else.
I've always believed in a unified Canada, if you look at Europe they are unifying. Look at the USA, I‘ve heard talk about certain states that would like to separate but I wonder what would happen if one of them actually tried.
We've got a great country; let’s try to keep it that way.
Yes I’ve heard of Alberta wanting to separate because some claim it to be culturally distinct from the rest of Canada and because of aid given to other provinces due to the federal transfer payment program.
I’ve also heard about the west grouping together (Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia) to separate from the rest of Canada and another was Alberta and British Columbia separating from the rest of Canada. I believe the reasons behind this have more to do with wealth than anything else.
I've always believed in a unified Canada, if you look at Europe they are unifying. Look at the USA, I‘ve heard talk about certain states that would like to separate but I wonder what would happen if one of them actually tried.
We've got a great country; let’s try to keep it that way.
I have to agree, we do have a great country, just wish it was a little warmer.
I can't see any of the US states seperating from the rest of the country, any more than provinces here would. Quebec's leaders being the exception, they made a concerted effort, although failed, thankfully.
The control of the wealth in Alberta and northern BC has been a point of arguement for decades. It's a part of Canada, so should be shared by all Canadians, equally. Trudeau also believed this, and set forth programs to ensure one part of the country didn't starve.
I remeber the squabbling over the National Energy Program, and the collapse here in Alberta in the late 70's/early 80's. A lot of people here wanted to blame Trudeau for that, but failed to realise oil prices/demand aren't dictated by Ottawa, it's worldwide. I don't want to get into manipulation by OPEC or the US, but that played a part too.
So, who's your favotite Canadian politician? Mine is obviously Pierre Elliot Trudeau, one of the few that I believe actually cared about the country as a whole, not just his own constituancy.
opentuit: You crack me up, Kid!
Hi Opentuit
Ever been to Canada?
kidatheart: Hi Opentuit
Ever been to Canada?
Ever been to Canada?
A few times, but all Ontario: Kingston, 1000 Islands, Peterborough, Toronto, Niagara Falls. (One of my sisters lived in Watertown, NY for a couple of years). I would LOVE to visit Vancouver and Victoria, BC!!!
I have never had Canadian beer, so it would be fun to check that out too!
opentuit: A few times, but all Ontario: Kingston, 1000 Islands, Peterborough, Toronto, Niagara Falls. (One of my sisters lived in Watertown, NY for a couple of years). I would LOVE to visit Vancouver and Victoria, BC!!!
I have never had Canadian beer, so it would be fun to check that out too!
I have never had Canadian beer, so it would be fun to check that out too!
Well, it is pretty damn good beer.
Ontario is a lot different than it is out west, especially the coast. I've been to Vancouver a number of times, but never Victoria or the island. It won't be all that far a drive from my new place, so one of these days I'll get there.
Let me know when you're coming, I'll buy a bigger selection for you to try out.
kidatheart: Well, it is pretty damn good beer.
Ontario is a lot different than it is out west, especially the coast. I've been to Vancouver a number of times, but never Victoria or the island. It won't be all that far a drive from my new place, so one of these days I'll get there.
Let me know when you're coming, I'll buy a bigger selection for you to try out.
Ontario is a lot different than it is out west, especially the coast. I've been to Vancouver a number of times, but never Victoria or the island. It won't be all that far a drive from my new place, so one of these days I'll get there.
Let me know when you're coming, I'll buy a bigger selection for you to try out.
hmmmmmm... where's the new place?
opentuit: hmmmmmm... where's the new place?
Fruitvale, BC, right in the Kootenays. Don't laugh at the name, I've already heard it all before.
kidatheart: Fruitvale, BC, right in the Kootenays. Don't laugh at the name, I've already heard it all before.
...still around 400 miles to Vancouver/Victoria. You would drive that far to see me???
kidatheart: I have to agree, we do have a great country, just wish it was a little warmer.
I can't see any of the US states seperating from the rest of the country, any more than provinces here would. Quebec's leaders being the exception, they made a concerted effort, although failed, thankfully.
The control of the wealth in Alberta and northern BC has been a point of arguement for decades. It's a part of Canada, so should be shared by all Canadians, equally. Trudeau also believed this, and set forth programs to ensure one part of the country didn't starve.
I remeber the squabbling over the National Energy Program, and the collapse here in Alberta in the late 70's/early 80's. A lot of people here wanted to blame Trudeau for that, but failed to realise oil prices/demand aren't dictated by Ottawa, it's worldwide. I don't want to get into manipulation by OPEC or the US, but that played a part too.
So, who's your favotite Canadian politician? Mine is obviously Pierre Elliot Trudeau, one of the few that I believe actually cared about the country as a whole, not just his own constituancy.
I can't see any of the US states seperating from the rest of the country, any more than provinces here would. Quebec's leaders being the exception, they made a concerted effort, although failed, thankfully.
The control of the wealth in Alberta and northern BC has been a point of arguement for decades. It's a part of Canada, so should be shared by all Canadians, equally. Trudeau also believed this, and set forth programs to ensure one part of the country didn't starve.
I remeber the squabbling over the National Energy Program, and the collapse here in Alberta in the late 70's/early 80's. A lot of people here wanted to blame Trudeau for that, but failed to realise oil prices/demand aren't dictated by Ottawa, it's worldwide. I don't want to get into manipulation by OPEC or the US, but that played a part too.
So, who's your favotite Canadian politician? Mine is obviously Pierre Elliot Trudeau, one of the few that I believe actually cared about the country as a whole, not just his own constituancy.
I’m with you on that one; Pierre Elliott Trudeau is also my favorite Canadian politician. I had the chance to shake his hand twice. He was brilliant and a devoted politician.
I listed a few things he did while Prime Minister of Canada (April 20-1968-June 03-1979) (March 03-1980-June 30-1984)
Official Languages Act 1969
October Crisis (implementation of War Measures Act) 1970
Appointed Muriel McQueen Fergusson first woman Speaker of the Senate 1972
Page and Price Controls 1975
Leader of the Opposition 1979-1980
Significant role in the victory of the "No" forces in the Quebec Referendum on Sovereignty-Association 1980
Appointed Jeanne Sauvé first woman Speaker of the House of Commons 1980
Canadian Charter of Rights 1982
Constitution Act 1982
Appointed Jeanne Sauvé, Canada's first woman governor general 1984
lets hear some of the negatives about that clown probably more than the positives im thinkin
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