Are woman mean? (219)

Jun 10, 2010 9:25 AM CST Are woman mean?
GenuineMale
GenuineMaleGenuineMaleAlicante, Valencia Spain5 Threads 1 Polls 140 Posts
I have met a number of ladies via internet dating, not this site that seems to be better than most. Why is it that woman mostly have worked for many years as males have, they mostly have a pension as males have, but they expect the man to always pay.Many are divorced and no doubt are satisfied with their settlement. So why not do the decent thing? If two males went out for a meal and some social life than each would pay their own. I believe this would also apply to two females.

If I was a woman I would feel degraded if I did not pay my own way but this does not seem to apply. Two pensions go out but only one is used to pay for all. How do woman see that as fair?

Currently I am of the opinion that all woman are looking for a meal and sociual ticket and mostly expect to give something in return. blushing

But as my name indicates, I do not see life like that at all. Where am I going wrong?
Jun 10, 2010 10:29 AM CST Are woman mean?
Mazza1970
Mazza1970Mazza1970Lemesos, Limassol Cyprus1 Threads 626 Posts
GenuineMale: I have met a number of ladies via internet dating, not this site that seems to be better than most. Why is it that woman mostly have worked for many years as males have, they mostly have a pension as males have, but they expect the man to always pay.Many are divorced and no doubt are satisfied with their settlement. So why not do the decent thing? If two males went out for a meal and some social life than each would pay their own. I believe this would also apply to two females.

If I was a woman I would feel degraded if I did not pay my own way but this does not seem to apply. Two pensions go out but only one is used to pay for all. How do woman see that as fair?

Currently I am of the opinion that all woman are looking for a meal and sociual ticket and mostly expect to give something in return.

But as my name indicates, I do not see life like that at all. Where am I going wrong?


Stop paying...just put 50% in plus tip cheering
Jun 10, 2010 10:32 AM CST Are woman mean?
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
GenuineMale: I have met a number of ladies via internet dating, not this site that seems to be better than most. Why is it that woman mostly have worked for many years as males have, they mostly have a pension as males have, but they expect the man to always pay.Many are divorced and no doubt are satisfied with their settlement. So why not do the decent thing? If two males went out for a meal and some social life than each would pay their own. I believe this would also apply to two females.

If I was a woman I would feel degraded if I did not pay my own way but this does not seem to apply. Two pensions go out but only one is used to pay for all. How do woman see that as fair?

Currently I am of the opinion that all woman are looking for a meal and sociual ticket and mostly expect to give something in return.

But as my name indicates, I do not see life like that at all. Where am I going wrong?

I think you need to change your spectacles for some that are not "rose tinted"

Although many ladies will pay their way, there are many more who expect the gentleman to pay.

Although we are in the 21st century, many of the old social laws still exist in some peoples eyes.

What you may find is that you are expected to pay on the first date, but should it go to a second or longer term dating then the lady will offer to pay her way.
Jun 10, 2010 11:01 AM CST Are woman mean?
lovingheart2
lovingheart2lovingheart2Madrid, Madrid, Madrid Spain12 Threads 492 Posts
some may but not all.....
there are still women who are sweet and will not take advantage on the situation.....hug

I guess you only have to be honest in the very beginning and so they are also aware of what kind of situation they are going to be in....for the benefits of the 2 parties, you and her....handshake ....
Jun 10, 2010 11:01 AM CST Are woman mean?
Maisie
MaisieMaisielarnaca, Larnaca Cyprus4 Threads 616 Posts
GenuineMale:

Currently I am of the opinion that all woman are looking for a meal and sociual ticket and mostly expect to give something in return.

But as my name indicates, I do not see life like that at all. Where am I going wrong?


I don't know what type of women you are meeting but I can assure you that the last date I had, a few weeks ago, I met him halfway because he lived a two hour drive away, AND I paid half off the bill for the meal. I wouldn't dream of doing anything else and as for your comment 'and mostly expect to give something in return', you do right to blush at spouting such tripe. With attitudes like that I can certainly see where you're going wrong!
Jun 10, 2010 11:07 AM CST Are woman mean?
mariola
mariolamariolajalon, Valencia Spain25 Threads 1 Polls 1,135 Posts
Englishman55: I think you need to change your spectacles for some that are not "rose tinted"

Although many ladies will pay their way, there are many more who expect the gentleman to pay.

Although we are in the 21st century, many of the old social laws still exist in some peoples eyes.

What you may find is that you are expected to pay on the first date, but should it go to a second or longer term dating then the lady will offer to pay her way.


Well said Englishman. I would expect a gentleman to pay if he invites me out for coffee or a meal. If all goes well then I would reciprocate and most of the woman I know feel this way.

Men do still have bigger pensions or pay packets than most woman. It is not all as equal as people like to think.

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Jun 10, 2010 11:27 AM CST Are woman mean?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
GenuineMale: I have met a number of ladies via internet dating, not this site that seems to be better than most. Why is it that woman mostly have worked for many years as males have, they mostly have a pension as males have, but they expect the man to always pay.Many are divorced and no doubt are satisfied with their settlement. So why not do the decent thing? If two males went out for a meal and some social life than each would pay their own. I believe this would also apply to two females.

If I was a woman I would feel degraded if I did not pay my own way but this does not seem to apply. Two pensions go out but only one is used to pay for all. How do woman see that as fair?

Currently I am of the opinion that all woman are looking for a meal and sociual ticket and mostly expect to give something in return.

But as my name indicates, I do not see life like that at all. Where am I going wrong?


Looks like you meet the practical type. Try to switch to romantic natured women – they don’t eat much, have no time with all heavy sighs Moon-ward and poetry reciting…

Or even better: write in your profile that you expect your date to pay for herself.

And by the way, why mean? Practical isn’t mean, it’s… well, practical.


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Jun 10, 2010 11:30 AM CST Are woman mean?
elisir
elisirelisirrom, Lazio Italy1 Threads 9 Posts
well, excuse my english
ok this is what i think and i am a women 110 % and if i get invidet from a gentelmann, i do not expect to pay for my what ever,
ok i am italien and in italy a man will never ever let a women pay, it is against his masculinita and honor , because if you can not afford to pay a dinner or lunch for a lady, i think you should go and eat with your man friends or allone, and i dont think enny women will pay her meal with a different sevice,
the thing is, that non latin country male, think the are gods giving gift and a lady of a certan age should be happy to have an old groutch for companie , well , i prefer to eat at home also because i am a chef and my friends do the shopping and i do the cooking and the clean up.
so my advise, dont be so stingi and choose your female friends befor you go out with them and pay, but only if you think she is werth it and not only because you dont want to eat allone, and then you will see, maby, if she had a nice time , she will invite you
Jun 10, 2010 11:56 AM CST Are woman mean?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
elisir: well, excuse my english
ok this is what i think and i am a women 110 % and if i get invidet from a gentelmann, i do not expect to pay for my what ever,
ok i am italien and in italy a man will never ever let a women pay, it is against his masculinita and honor , because if you can not afford to pay a dinner or lunch for a lady, i think you should go and eat with your man friends or allone, and i dont think enny women will pay her meal with a different sevice,
the thing is, that non latin country male, think the are gods giving gift and a lady of a certan age should be happy to have an old groutch for companie , well , i prefer to eat at home also because i am a chef and my friends do the shopping and i do the cooking and the clean up.
so my advise, dont be so stingi and choose your female friends befor you go out with them and pay, but only if you think she is werth it and not only because you dont want to eat allone, and then you will see, maby, if she had a nice time , she will invite you


Bravo!

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Jun 10, 2010 12:28 PM CST Are woman mean?
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
elisir: well, excuse my english
ok this is what i think and i am a women 110 % and if i get invidet from a gentelmann, i do not expect to pay for my what ever,
ok i am italien and in italy a man will never ever let a women pay, it is against his masculinita and honor , because if you can not afford to pay a dinner or lunch for a lady, i think you should go and eat with your man friends or allone, and i dont think enny women will pay her meal with a different sevice,
the thing is, that non latin country male, think the are gods giving gift and a lady of a certan age should be happy to have an old groutch for companie , well , i prefer to eat at home also because i am a chef and my friends do the shopping and i do the cooking and the clean up.
so my advise, dont be so stingi and choose your female friends befor you go out with them and pay, but only if you think she is werth it and not only because you dont want to eat allone, and then you will see, maby, if she had a nice time , she will invite you

I would say that about 85% to 90% of the couples I have seen in restaraunts and bars here in Italy it has always been the woman that pays.

Now, unless the man is giving her his cash and credit cards before they enter the restaraunt AND his PIN number. I would say you are wrong.

I have also seen it where the womans credit card was not accepted, so the man had to get his wallet out and pay for the meal.

And when you talk about "Non Latin" men thinking they are "Gods gift to women" as if the Italian male is not the greatest exponent of this........ Then I know you are having a laugh.



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Jun 10, 2010 12:43 PM CST Are woman mean?
kinseycy
kinseycykinseycyLarnaca, Cyprus10 Threads 1 Polls 218 Posts
We've discussed this before but I'll put my two pennies in (yeh I know I'm cheap!)

If a man invites me out I expect him to pay, if I ask him I expect to pay. If we are meeting as friends then we go halves.

Simple...imo
Jun 10, 2010 2:49 PM CST Are woman mean?
tomboygirl
tomboygirltomboygirllarnaca, Larnaca Cyprus3 Threads 1,555 Posts
elisir: well, excuse my english
ok this is what i think and i am a women 110 % and if i get invidet from a gentelmann, i do not expect to pay for my what ever,
ok i am italien and in italy a man will never ever let a women pay, it is against his masculinita and honor , because if you can not afford to pay a dinner or lunch for a lady, i think you should go and eat with your man friends or allone, and i dont think enny women will pay her meal with a different sevice,
the thing is, that non latin country male, think the are gods giving gift and a lady of a certan age should be happy to have an old groutch for companie , well , i prefer to eat at home also because i am a chef and my friends do the shopping and i do the cooking and the clean up.
so my advise, dont be so stingi and choose your female friends befor you go out with them and pay, but only if you think she is werth it and not only because you dont want to eat allone, and then you will see, maby, if she had a nice time , she will invite you


Certainly here in Cyprus,I have been given the impression it is close to insulting for me to pay when having dinner,both first and subsequent dinners,and there is none of this expectation of getting some action in the bedroom in return!
I have found quite often this extends to male friends also,akin to an act of chivalry,they consider it their place to pay.It may not be P.C. but its one of the things I like about this country,and its old fashioned attitude to taking care of a lady.
Jun 10, 2010 3:37 PM CST Are woman mean?
GenuineMale
GenuineMaleGenuineMaleAlicante, Valencia Spain5 Threads 1 Polls 140 Posts
kinseycy: We've discussed this before but I'll put my two pennies in (yeh I know I'm cheap!)

If a man invites me out I expect him to pay, if I ask him I expect to pay. If we are meeting as friends then we go halves.

Simple...imo


Well now, if contact is made via a dating site then the first meeting is as friends or should be and then if both feel a further meeting is of interest then the meeting is closer friends and so on until both decide that each can give the other what they are both looking for when joining the site.

Whats the problem ladies? Surely you realise that first friendship then later perhaps more. So be prepared to pay your way. I am comforably off, manafge well on my pension, but rather not give away money to the first person that agrees to meet.

I now feel more strongly, having read the threads, that woman are mean and do not give a damn about money as long as it is not theirs.

My listing is very plain and perhaps that is why no contacts. I refuse to pay for friendship.
Jun 10, 2010 3:53 PM CST Are woman mean?
luvs2travel
luvs2travelluvs2travelLos Angeles, California USA20 Posts
GenuineMale: Well now, if contact is made via a dating site then the first meeting is as friends or should be and then if both feel a further meeting is of interest then the meeting is closer friends and so on until both decide that each can give the other what they are both looking for when joining the site.

Whats the problem ladies? Surely you realise that first friendship then later perhaps more. So be prepared to pay your way. I am comforably off, manafge well on my pension, but rather not give away money to the first person that agrees to meet.

I now feel more strongly, having read the threads, that woman are mean and do not give a damn about money as long as it is not theirs.

My listing is very plain and perhaps that is why no contacts. I refuse to pay for friendship.


GenuineMale, its not about money, its about being a gentleman. I personally have money to pay for my own dinners and more, but it is a nice gesture when a man offers to pay. I don't usually to go an expensive restaurant on a first date b/c I don't want him to spend too much money.

You state that the first date is as friends, then it will stay that way. First impressions are important, and when a man offers to pay, it makes one feel special.

If you are so worried about spending money on a lady, why bother, stay at home or go out with your friends. If your cheap most likely you won't get a second date.
Jun 10, 2010 3:59 PM CST Are woman mean?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Ok GM..this is my take..;You've dated a few fit nubiles...Gave them the red carpet treatment and didn't make first base..Tell's me you're buttering them up worng. Law of averages says at least one will offer breakfast (<--------43rd law of the universe).

So whats your approach? How come you're always going home alone?

See if you had breaky you wouldn't gripe....(jmo)

In response to: I have met a number of ladies via internet dating, not this site that seems to be better than most. Why is it that woman mostly have worked for many years as males have, they mostly have a pension as males have, but they expect the man to always pay.Many are divorced and no doubt are satisfied with their settlement. So why not do the decent thing? If two males went out for a meal and some social life than each would pay their own. I believe this would also apply to two females.

If I was a woman I would feel degraded if I did not pay my own way but this does not seem to apply. Two pensions go out but only one is used to pay for all. How do woman see that as fair?

Currently I am of the opinion that all woman are looking for a meal and sociual ticket and mostly expect to give something in return.

But as my name indicates, I do not see life like that at all. Where am I going wrong?
Jun 10, 2010 4:23 PM CST Are woman mean?
luvs2travel
luvs2travelluvs2travelLos Angeles, California USA20 Posts
Phoenix: Ok GM..this is my take..;You've dated a few fit nubiles...Gave them the red carpet treatment and didn't make first base..Tell's me you're buttering them up worng. Law of averages says at least one will offer breakfast (<--------43rd law of the universe).

So whats your approach? How come you're always going home alone?

See if you had breaky you wouldn't gripe....(jmo)


Phoenix, I agree. GM is definitely doing something wrong.

He is probably too worried about how much the meal is going to cost and portraying himself as a "cheapskate" that he is scarying off the women, or maybe he is not that interesting. I am sure, if wasn't so worried about spending a few Euros/dollars and he was a bit interesting he would have more luck with the ladies.
Jun 10, 2010 4:43 PM CST Are woman mean?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
luvs2travel: Phoenix, I agree. GM is definitely doing something wrong.

He is probably too worried about how much the meal is going to cost and portraying himself as a "cheapskate" that he is scarying off the women, or maybe he is not that interesting. I am sure, if wasn't so worried about spending a few Euros/dollars and he was a bit interesting he would have more luck with the ladies.


There you go GM...so tell me whats your angle? What way are you going about buttering these wee girls up?
Jun 10, 2010 4:54 PM CST Are woman mean?
Danny48
Danny48Danny48Limoges, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France26 Threads 207 Posts
tomboygirl: Certainly here in Cyprus,I have been given the impression it is close to insulting for me to pay when having dinner,both first and subsequent dinners,and there is none of this expectation of getting some action in the bedroom in return!
I have found quite often this extends to male friends also,akin to an act of chivalry,they consider it their place to pay.It may not be P.C. but its one of the things I like about this country,and its old fashioned attitude to taking care of a lady.


If I invite a lady to dinner I expect to pay. Get embarrassed if they offer? Once you've married her you can share!
Jun 10, 2010 4:58 PM CST Are woman mean?
Danny48
Danny48Danny48Limoges, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France26 Threads 207 Posts
Danny48: If I invite a lady to dinner I expect to pay. Get embarrassed if they offer? Once you've married her you can share!


PS The assumption you have bought her body or favours is insulting to women.
You buy a meal. That's all.
Jun 10, 2010 4:59 PM CST Are woman mean?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Danny48: If I invite a lady to dinner I expect to pay. Get embarrassed if they offer? Once you've married her you can share!


Dan you got that wrong...You invite your wife..GF..other half out. You pay. (<-------28th law of the universe)
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