RE: world events; Am I compassionate? ( Archived) (19)

Jun 14, 2010 4:26 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Am I compassionate? or am i just so grateful it isnt me?


sometimes the one becomes the other in a nanosecond

this isnt necessarily a question, i just wanted to share...

i heard a lead in to the news saying "We will speak to a mother affected by the Arkansas flooding who heard her children screaming 'I'm drowning mamma'..."

i just- well my breath was gone!

I cannot imagine-! I felt sad but really i realized omygod i know what i have been thru but that! that i could not endure!

i was just grateful it wasnt me and then i felt a bit guilty.
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Jun 14, 2010 4:30 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
viva007
viva007viva007HYDERABAD, Telangana India41 Threads 8 Polls 7,447 Posts
Good split-personalityroll eyes wave
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Jun 14, 2010 4:38 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
Amity
AmityAmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK49 Threads 6,217 Posts
I think its human to feel relieved that things are not happening to you or the people you love.
You may feel upset from hearing of tragedies, but it is natural to feel blessed that they are not happening to you.

I admit that when i do hear of ordeals, and dire circumstances i feel angry with myself, for being selfish enough to be worrying about something that is insignificant to what others are going through.
hug
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Jun 14, 2010 5:09 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
Am I compassionate?

Guess it depends on ones definition of compassion; I listened to a view that understanding interdependent arising develops true compassion.
Our true nature is moving energy, and our experience comes from our own past actions of body speech and mind. Some people use the word Karma to express the nature of cause and effect.

Often here you hear on the news someone has been swept of a rock while sport fishing. To me in my mind I perceive that person sadly engaged in an unskilful activity causing harm to fish. Most people would think that catching and causing pain and suffering to a fish doesn’t matter. However none the less by virtue of engaging in a negative activity like that without having consideration for the feeling of another sentient being (being that has mind and fears death) definitely has consequence by virtue the certainty of cause and effect.
Likewise in past we all have sown countless seeds suffering of negative karma from our past actions of body, speech and mind or we wouldn’t still be taking rebirth.

To try and express in another way what it is I am trying to say, another example you might like to consider is people born in places like Iraq and Afghanistan suffering imaginable sufferings of being bombed and the likes. Also those doing it, we should I think develop strong compassion because if they knew what seeds they are sowing they wouldn’t do it.
The seeds of karma once sown are certain...
You hang a murder and he/she could well take rebirth as next generation of so called victim. Observing karmas of others is an even-handed observation…
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Jun 14, 2010 5:16 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
mindfful: Am I compassionate? or am i just so grateful it isnt me?sometimes the one becomes the other in a nanosecond

this isnt necessarily a question, i just wanted to share...

i heard a lead in to the news saying "We will speak to a mother affected by the Arkansas flooding who heard her children screaming 'I'm drowning mamma'..."

i just- well my breath was gone!

I cannot imagine-! I felt sad but really i realized omygod i know what i have been thru but that! that i could not endure!

i was just grateful it wasnt me and then i felt a bit guilty.
Now THAT, I can identify with. I FEEL their pain because of the fire next door to me when the mother an 2 children died and I hear the little girl (4 yrs.) yell to someone to help her. Haunts me to this day!sad flower
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Jun 14, 2010 5:26 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Arlene101: Now THAT, I can identify with. I FEEL their pain because of the fire next door to me when the mother an 2 children died and I hear the little girl (4 yrs.) yell to someone to help her. Haunts me to this day!
i cannot imagine arlene

i have suffered many things

but the helplessness in a situation such as that
and the remaining memory

gosh- it would do me in i think
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Jun 14, 2010 5:29 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
mindfful: i cannot imagine arlene

i have suffered many things

but the helplessness in a situation such as that
and the remaining memory

gosh- it would do me in i think
hi,'E'wave , I got help for that considering the father and husband was taken from work and watched the whole thing. I WILL survive my friend.hug teddybear
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Jun 14, 2010 7:02 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
LILLYLADY
LILLYLADYLILLYLADYunknown, Ohio USA27 Threads 1,293 Posts
Arlene101: Now THAT, I can identify with. I FEEL their pain because of the fire next door to me when the mother an 2 children died and I hear the little girl (4 yrs.) yell to someone to help her. Haunts me to this day!


I watched my next door neighbor's trailer burn to the ground at 4am in the morning when there was 24 inches of snow on the ground and the firetrucks couldn't even get hooked up quick enough. 10 pumper trucks couldn't get through quick enough to save the woman and her 2 week old grandson who were found clinging to each other both burned to a crisp. The woman's son and his 19 yr old girlfriend came home just as the fire dept was pulling his mother and their infant from the rubble. They kids were hysterical screaming out of their minds.

I was haunted by the experience for over a month as everyday I opened my curtains and walked out my door, I had no choice but to see the ruins.

Am I compassionate? Yes!! I spoke to my girlfriend whose mother had just passed away and convinced her to literally give her mom's trailer to the son and his girlfriend as the young boy was still living at home with his mom. I also had linens,an extra bed, furniture and dishes to give them to get a new start in life.

Sadly, the couple broke up after this loss and never did take the free trailer and items that was offered them as a starter home for the both of them to start over with. So sad indeed.
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Jun 14, 2010 7:07 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Of course you are compassionate Mindful and grateful and sad at that tragic event it brakes any one's heart no to be able to help but at the same time it gives us a lesson of how important life is and how fragile it is too.

that is why we sould live a happy life!
(mostly)
hug
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Jun 14, 2010 7:11 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
one thing for certain

life happens

we cannot always be prepared but man...

crying
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Jun 14, 2010 7:14 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
I would die if I were in that position, it´s just too awful to contemplate...hearing your child say that. crying

Compassionate is your middle name E. hug
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Jun 14, 2010 8:12 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
JAN_is: I would die if I were in that position, it´s just too awful to contemplate...hearing your child say that.

Compassionate is your middle name E.


blushing only a few realize that but little do many know, the ones that act out or dont like me even...i see their pain and i pray for it.

we all have pain

but yes jan...i cannot imagine

of course i turned the channel before they showed the interview.
i dont need to see that womans face to pray for her peace
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Jun 14, 2010 8:17 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
strict
strictstricttehran, Iran5 Threads 2,018 Posts
mindfful: Am I compassionate? or am i just so grateful it isnt me?sometimes the one becomes the other in a nanosecond

this isnt necessarily a question, i just wanted to share...

i heard a lead in to the news saying "We will speak to a mother affected by the Arkansas flooding who heard her children screaming 'I'm drowning mamma'..."

i just- well my breath was gone!

I cannot imagine-! I felt sad but really i realized omygod i know what i have been thru but that! that i could not endure!

i was just grateful it wasnt me and then i felt a bit guilty.
i had the same feeling when i was a child and there was a war between Iran and Iraq.sometimes int.laws on war where breached and bombardment on cities happened.i remember when an air attack finished i was happy that we survived and then felt guilty!
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Jun 14, 2010 8:19 PM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
strict: i had the same feeling when i was a child and there was a war between Iran and Iraq.sometimes int.laws on war where breached and bombardment on cities happened.i remember when an air attack finished i was happy that we survived and then felt guilty!
i understand

its great to see you by the wayhug
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Jun 16, 2010 2:00 AM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
help i just got a letter referring to a post i made in some thread that i guess was about clubbing baby seals?

i got told how dare i make a thread about being compassionate
when i said i killed rabbits and chickens as a child.


i mean gosh i was working for my family in a ranch atmosphere


its not like im a serial killer that started with animals as my first victimsfrustrated


why do people feel compelled to write these mails

why do people watch forums and remember so many details about others

is it weird?
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Jun 16, 2010 2:25 AM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
Compassion can be cruel...compassion can JOLT YOU.
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Jun 16, 2010 2:35 AM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
mindfful: Am I compassionate? or am i just so grateful it isnt me?sometimes the one becomes the other in a nanosecond

this isnt necessarily a question, i just wanted to share...

i heard a lead in to the news saying "We will speak to a mother affected by the Arkansas flooding who heard her children screaming 'I'm drowning mamma'..."

i just- well my breath was gone!

I cannot imagine-! I felt sad but really i realized omygod i know what i have been thru but that! that i could not endure!

i was just grateful it wasnt me and then i felt a bit guilty.


Good topic....

I always found it strange, how do we chose for whom to feel compassion
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Jun 16, 2010 10:46 AM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Boban1: Good topic....

I always found it strange, how do we chose for whom to feel compassion
it is very interesting isnt it?

like when people are angry about something and say

one day i hope this happens to you!!!
like if they feel its a bad and wrong thing how can they wish it on someone else? wheres the compassion there?

humans are very very interesting indeed bobanhandshake
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Jul 2, 2010 9:14 AM CST RE: world events; Am I compassionate?
BBWfansdream
BBWfansdreamBBWfansdreamGlenorchy, Tasmania Australia4 Threads 133 Posts
I tell myself everyday that there are people out there who are far worse off than me.
It does not matter that over the last 15 years, that that list has gotten smaller. It still holds true and keeps me doing whatever I can to help those who weren't as lucky as me.
Although now there are times when I have to accept help myself, I still offer whatever I can when I am able.
teddybear
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