U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia... (38)

Jun 16, 2010 4:28 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
Phoenix: look at this while stuffin' your face..
Why do you think Pakistan is stirring in the Soup!rolling on the floor laughing

And China already developing a Coppermine there!rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 16, 2010 4:30 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Well Phoenix look again.

Smoky's point was that neither the US nor Somalia have signed the treaty.

But in fact, Both the US and Somalia HAVE signed the treaty.

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Smoky`s point was/is: The U.S. is using it`s taxpayers money to pay salaries to children as young as 7 to act as soldiers in Somalia. And the people of America do nothing.

The fact that they DID sign makes it even worse.

Yes, they are sending "aid money" .... without bothering where or how it is used.

I will quote another article, in the same paper .....

"Remaking Africa" De-recognizing failed African states will force their rulers to adopt reforms to win domestic support.
blah blah blah .... etc ...."And most of these nations, broke from their own thievery, are now unable to provide their citzens with basic services like security, roads, hospkitas and schools. What can be done?

"The first and most urgent task is that the donor countries that keep these nations afloat should cease sheltering African elites from accountability. To do so, the international community must move swiftly to de-recognise the worst performing African states, forcing their rulers to search for support and legitimacy at home."

"Donor countries would tell these rulers - all nightmares to much of their populations - that they no longer recognize them as sovereign states. Instead they would agree to recognize only African states that provide their citizens with a minimum of safety and basic rights".

......Some of the repressive leaders, deprived of their sovereign tools of domination and the international aid that underwrites their regimes, mught soon find themselves overthrown.






U.S. delaying millions in aid to Somalia, U.N. says

GAALKACYO, Somalia (CNN) -- The U.S. government is delaying "tens of millions" of dollars in crucial humanitarian aid over concerns that the money is being diverted to a notorious militant group, a senior U.N. official said.

The U.S. government, concerned about the challenges in delivering assistance in a country wracked by civil war, s.............
Jun 16, 2010 4:41 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/10/02/somalia.aid/index.html

U.S. delaying millions in aid to Somalia, U.N. says

GAALKACYO, Somalia (CNN) -- The U.S. government is delaying "tens of millions" of dollars in crucial humanitarian aid over concerns that the money is being diverted to a notorious militant group, a senior U.N. official said.

The U.S. government, concerned about the challenges in delivering assistance in a country wracked by civil war, s.............


Oh well, I guess at least they are trying to not pay the 7yr old soldiers.

Why they don`t just send FOOD? Everyone knows that money just ends up in politicians pockets ...and for buying weapons!
Jun 16, 2010 4:58 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Oh well, I guess at least they are trying to not pay the 7yr old soldiers.

Why they don`t just send FOOD? Everyone knows that money just ends up in politicians pockets ...and for buying weapons!
The Food will still end up with the "Elite",Zimbabwe-Style!frustrated
Jun 16, 2010 5:06 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: The Food will still end up with the "Elite",Zimbabwe-Style!
Ja. I guess the only thing to do is for Everyone here to buy themselves a fancy Mobile Bedroom thingy that Scrooge McBM here has and we get Obama to load them with food and we all set off down Africa to deliver the food?
Jun 16, 2010 5:07 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Ja. I guess the only thing to do is for Everyone here to buy themselves a fancy Mobile Bedroom thingy that Scrooge McBM here has and we get Obama to load them with food and we all set off down Africa to deliver the food?
I think I'll pass on this Trip!grin
Jun 16, 2010 5:19 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: I think I'll pass on this Trip!
Even if I manage a bus with a big oxygen tank?.... Lots of oxygen tanks?...and Eisbeins ... and Swiss chocolates .....and rump steaks .....a crate of live chickens ...... a cow for fresh milk ..... coupla pigs ......bag of charcoal.....?rolling on the floor laughing batting

I think the red wine has worn off and its time for me to hit the sack I call my bed.....gnite
Jun 16, 2010 5:30 PM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Even if I manage a bus with a big oxygen tank?.... Lots of oxygen tanks?...and Eisbeins ... and Swiss chocolates .....and rump steaks .....a crate of live chickens ...... a cow for fresh milk ..... coupla pigs ......bag of charcoal.....?

I think the red wine has worn off and its time for me to hit the sack I call my bed.....
G' Nite!laugh
Jun 17, 2010 1:51 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
It can become misleading adding two different statements together like that.

Ratification of the treaty is one thing.

The financing of child-soldiers is something very different.

Loads of countries and organisations got the dilemma of wither to help or not, if they do not help, people suffer, if they do help - well, risk is that some of that funding will be diverted to the wrong hands.

All the helping world have been responsible in funding child-soldiers, not US only. This is a sad truth and daily obstacle in getting people on their feet to get out of their traps.

Put blame where blame should be - kids should be kids and anyone against put in the corner of shame.

An now -

US - RATIFY YOUR OWN TREATY GOD DAMMIT
You signed it, now bring it home very mad
Jun 17, 2010 4:03 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
mike69spain: It can become misleading adding two different statements together like that.

Ratification of the treaty is one thing.

The financing of child-soldiers is something very different.

Loads of countries and organisations got the dilemma of wither to help or not, if they do not help, people suffer, if they do help - well, risk is that some of that funding will be diverted to the wrong hands.

All the helping world have been responsible in funding child-soldiers, not US only. This is a sad truth and daily obstacle in getting people on their feet to get out of their traps.

Put blame where blame should be - kids should be kids and anyone against put in the corner of shame.

An now -

US - RATIFY YOUR OWN TREATY GOD DAMMIT
You signed it, now bring it home
That still leaves the Door wide open,the way corrupt Governments use the Aid-Money!
Jun 17, 2010 4:04 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
Conrad73: That still leaves the Door wide open,the way corrupt Governments use the Aid-Money!







U.S. delaying millions in aid to Somalia, U.N. says

GAALKACYO, Somalia (CNN) -- The U.S. government is delaying "tens of millions" of dollars in crucial humanitarian aid over concerns that the money is being diverted to a notorious militant group, a senior U.N. official said.

The U.S. government, concerned about the challenges in delivering assistance in a country wracked by civil war, s.............
Jun 17, 2010 11:10 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING! Americans .. hang your heads in shame. OR go picket the White House, same as you did during the Vietnam war, make your voices heard .. on behalf of starving black children and their mothers.
Just simple Stupidity on the Part of the present Administration!
Doubt if any Western Government would sell Arms to expressively arm minors!
It a byproduct of indiscriminately throwing money at a problem,instead of using Common Sense.
During the Cold War,the USSR and it's Proxies like Cuba and the rest of the Eastern Block States,including China used to do the same thing,some of them are still doing it!

Cuban Mercenaries in Angola,Somalia and other States in Africa.

Kalashnikov is a Household Name in Africa..
Plenty of Chinese-Made ones!
Jun 17, 2010 11:15 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: Just simple Stupidity on the Part of the present Administration!
Doubt if any Western Government would sell Arms to expressively arm minors!
It a byproduct of indiscriminately throwing money at a problem,instead of using Common Sense.
During the Cold War,the USSR and it's Proxies like Cuba and the rest of the Eastern Block States,including China used to do the same thing,some of them are still doing it!

Cuban Mercenaries in Angola,Somalia and other States in Africa.

Kalashnikov is a Household Name in Africa..
Plenty of Chinese-Made ones!


Quite correct! All I need is a country to govern and I`ll make a SUPER President-ess!

I wanna country to call MY OWN ... and then I shall go out and interfere in other countries, but only in a way to make PEACE not WAR.

We need some sensible females like ME in this world!

Anybody got a country to give me?drinking

I promise to NOT have a private jet, only travel 1st class on commercial airlines, do my own hair and nails, and shop for cheap off-the-peg clothes and shoes. In fact, to prove how genuine I am, like Ghandi, I shall promise to attend all social and governmental occasions dressed in my traditional attire of bikini top and sarong and slops.drinking
Jun 17, 2010 11:16 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
Conrad73: Just simple Stupidity on the Part of the present Administration!
Doubt if any Western Government would sell Arms to expressively arm minors!
It a byproduct of indiscriminately throwing money at a problem,instead of using Common Sense.
During the Cold War,the USSR and it's Proxies like Cuba and the rest of the Eastern Block States,including China used to do the same thing,some of them are still doing it!

Cuban Mercenaries in Angola,Somalia and other States in Africa.

Kalashnikov is a Household Name in Africa..
Plenty of Chinese-Made ones!
and besides that,I don't think it states anywhere that the Money and Weapons were to be used to arm underage Soldiers!confused
Jun 17, 2010 11:19 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Quite correct! All I need is a country to govern and I`ll make a SUPER President-ess!

I wanna country to call MY OWN ... and then I shall go out and interfere in other countries, but only in a way to make PEACE not WAR.

We need some sensible females like ME in this world!

Anybody got a country to give me?

I promise to NOT have a private jet, only travel 1st class on commercial airlines, do my own hair and nails, and shop for cheap off-the-peg clothes and shoes. In fact, to prove how genuine I am, like Ghandi, I shall promise to attend all social and governmental occasions dressed in my traditional attire of bikini top and sarong and slops.
Hijack any abandoned Oil-Platform in International waters!


Jun 17, 2010 11:21 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: and besides that,I don't think it states anywhere that the Money and Weapons were to be used to arm underage Soldiers!
Oh gosh man!!!! You send a bag of money to those governments where the heck you think it`s gonna be spent? .... on Food for the poor starving kids and their mama`s?......rolling on the floor laughing Especially if your 2m$ air transport is for masses of guns and ammunition.

Nah ... I think, seriously, America actually WANTS the whole of Africa all for itself. Why else send masses of weapons and money to a country reeling out of control with violence?
Jun 17, 2010 11:23 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Oh gosh man!!!! You send a bag of money to those governments where the heck you think it`s gonna be spent? .... on Food for the poor starving kids and their mama`s?...... Especially if your 2m$ air transport is for masses of guns and ammunition.

Nah ... I think, seriously, America actually WANTS the whole of Africa all for itself. Why else send masses of weapons and money to a country reeling out of control with violence?
Looks like China has the Jump on that!laugh
Jun 17, 2010 11:26 AM CST U.S. Taxpayers money paying child soldiers in Somalia...
smoky: Oh gosh man!!!! You send a bag of money to those governments where the heck you think it`s gonna be spent? .... on Food for the poor starving kids and their mama`s?...... Especially if your 2m$ air transport is for masses of guns and ammunition.

Nah ... I think, seriously, America actually WANTS the whole of Africa all for itself. Why else send masses of weapons and money to a country reeling out of control with violence?
Obama might want to go back home!laugh
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