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Jun 30, 2010 5:02 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
"Recent surveys by Gallup found roughly 700 million adults would like to migrate to another country permanently if they had the chance. The United States is the top desired destination country. Nearly one-quarter (24%) of these respondents, which translates to more than 165 million adults worldwide, name the United States as their desired future residence. With an additional estimated 45 million saying they would like to move to Canada, Northern America is one of the two most desired regions."

The above courtesy of Wikipedia...

We respect each other, dont we? We respect each other's countries, dont we?

Why then, is it that the USA is singled out constantly on CS as a target of country-bashing? It seems strange to me, when it is listed as being the most desired country to immigrate to, according to this source - which is obviously considered a reliable one as it is used so much in CS posts!

I find it outrageous that Americans are expected to sit back, and be insulted and maligned on a daily basis by others. It is not even a question of which country it is - that shouldnt matter...it is the fact that others seem to think it acceptable to bash another's country. Its not. Its hurtful, insulting and rude.

Irrespective of what you think about a country's political stance and policies, as we mostly know - this does not generally represent the opinion of Joe Bloggs on the street. Therefore, it is unfair to insult and malign a country's citizens, do you not think?

I believe respect should always be shown for other countries. CERTAINLY, the normal citizens of that country who simply want to live their lives and respect, and be respected.

This applies, in my opinion to all our countries, not just the USA, by the way.

Respect for each other's lands and cultures should be a given. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Jun 30, 2010 5:15 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
englishelegance
englisheleganceenglisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK84 Threads 1 Polls 4,126 Posts
DodgeBabe: "Recent surveys by Gallup found roughly 700 million adults would like to migrate to another country permanently if they had the chance. The United States is the top desired destination country. Nearly one-quarter (24%) of these respondents, which translates to more than 165 million adults worldwide, name the United States as their desired future residence. With an additional estimated 45 million saying they would like to move to Canada, Northern America is one of the two most desired regions."

The above courtesy of Wikipedia...

We respect each other, dont we? We respect each other's countries, dont we?

Why then, is it that the USA is singled out constantly on CS as a target of country-bashing? It seems strange to me, when it is listed as being the most desired country to immigrate to, according to this source - which is obviously considered a reliable one as it is used so much in CS posts!

I find it outrageous that Americans are expected to sit back, and be insulted and maligned on a daily basis by others. It is not even a question of which country it is - that shouldnt matter...it is the fact that others seem to think it acceptable to bash another's country. Its not. Its hurtful, insulting and rude.

Irrespective of what you think about a country's political stance and policies, as we mostly know - this does not generally represent the opinion of Joe Bloggs on the street. Therefore, it is unfair to insult and malign a country's citizens, do you not think?

I believe respect should always be shown for other countries. CERTAINLY, the normal citizens of that country who simply want to live their lives and respect, and be respected.

This applies, in my opinion to all our countries, not just the USA, by the way.

Respect for each other's lands and cultures should be a given. Nothing more, nothing less.


Totally agree Dwave Me persnally i love the states and the folk who live there, they are the most welcoming nation i know.hug yay yay yay
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Jun 30, 2010 5:19 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
demonfairy
demonfairydemonfairyNewton,hickory, North Carolina USA159 Threads 23 Polls 8,490 Posts
Good post dodge,i totally agree hug bouquet wave wine
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Jun 30, 2010 5:20 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
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Jun 30, 2010 5:23 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,284 Posts
DodgeBabe: "...then, is it that the USA is singled out constantly on CS as a target of country-bashing? It seems strange to me, when it is listed as being the most desired country to immigrate to, according to this source - which is obviously considered a reliable one as it is used so much in CS posts!....

A friend of mine has double nationality but when he travels overseas he chooses the Mexican nationality over the American.

Great and bad people are eveywhere and some persons are not able to set a line between American persons and the USA foreign policy and because of that Americans might not be welcome in some places and for some people.

Had I to migrate I would not choose USA I have already lived there (Michigan and Maine) and it is a beautiful country with wonderful people I would prefer other countries: Italy, UK, Germany, Normay, Denmark, Finland, Japan, China....
bouquet
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Jun 30, 2010 5:26 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
lifeisadream: A friend of mine has double nationality but when he travels overseas he chooses the Mexican nationality over the American.

Great and bad people are eveywhere and some persons are not able to set a line between American persons and the USA foreign policy and because of that Americans might not be welcome in some places and for some people.

Had I to migrate I would not choose USA I have already lived there (Michigan and Maine) and it is a beautiful country with wonderful people I would prefer other countries: Italy, UK, Germany, Normay, Denmark, Finland, Japan, China....


Hi Life..

I think this is the problem, as regards the US. Their policies, as created by the bods in the Pentagon, MISTAKENLY define the American people.thumbs up
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Jun 30, 2010 5:31 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK1,411 Threads 6 Polls 15,903 Posts
demonfairy: Good post dodge,i totally agree
Every Country is due repect, I give to all at the level I deem fit.....To explain further what I mean is.....If you treat ALL your citizens fairly and uphold their rights you have my maximum respect.However, if you do not, you get less and less on a level of your treatment of your own folk.......Regardless of Creed colour and any political stance the treatment of your own itizens shows a ountry in it's true light...........As always JMOgrin cheers
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Jun 30, 2010 5:36 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK1,411 Threads 6 Polls 15,903 Posts
patmac: Every Country is due repect, I give to all at the level I deem fit.....To explain further what I mean is.....If you treat ALL your citizens fairly and uphold their rights you have my maximum respect.However, if you do not, you get less and less on a level of your treatment of your own folk.......Regardless of Creed colour and any political stance the treatment of your own itizens shows a ountry in it's true light...........As always JMO
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Sorry folks I have a sticky key the C is playing up....grin doh doh cheers
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Jun 30, 2010 5:36 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
patmac: Every Country is due repect, I give to all at the level I deem fit.....To explain further what I mean is.....If you treat ALL your citizens fairly and uphold their rights you have my maximum respect.However, if you do not, you get less and less on a level of your treatment of your own folk.......Regardless of Creed colour and any political stance the treatment of your own itizens shows a ountry in it's true light...........As always JMO


That may be true, Pat, but its still unfair to bash and insult the American Man on the Street, as I see so many times on this forum. "He" is not responsible for his countries policies, per se. Anymore than you should be held accountable for what happens in Edinburgh, or Whitehall.

What Im trying to get across on this thread is that it is quite hurtful to Americans when the land they love is verbally attacked on a daily basis.

Dont shoot the messenger, as the saying goes..

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Jun 30, 2010 5:41 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK1,411 Threads 6 Polls 15,903 Posts
DodgeBabe: That may be true, Pat, but its still unfair to bash and insult the American Man on the Street, as I see so many times on this forum. "He" is not responsible for his countries policies, per se. Anymore than you should be held accountable for what happens in Edinburgh, or Whitehall.

What Im trying to get across on this thread is that it is quite hurtful to Americans when the land they love is verbally attacked on a daily basis.

Dont shoot the messenger, as the saying goes..
I get your point but as you posted the thread under the term respect ountries that is why i posted as I did......As for the USA.....The folk are all different it is a huge country and yes the administration does not reflect the American people in all ways JMOgrin cheers
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Jun 30, 2010 5:42 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
patmac: I get your point but as you posted the thread under the term respect ountries that is why i posted as I did......As for the USA.....The folk are all different it is a huge country and yes the administration does not reflect the American people in all ways JMO


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Jun 30, 2010 5:46 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago368 Threads 7 Polls 6,881 Posts
DodgeBabe: "Recent surveys by Gallup found roughly 700 million adults would like to migrate to another country permanently if they had the chance. The United States is the top desired destination country. Nearly one-quarter (24%) of these respondents, which translates to more than 165 million adults worldwide, name the United States as their desired future residence. With an additional estimated 45 million saying they would like to move to Canada, Northern America is one of the two most desired regions."

The above courtesy of Wikipedia...

We respect each other, dont we? We respect each other's countries, dont we?

Why then, is it that the USA is singled out constantly on CS as a target of country-bashing? It seems strange to me, when it is listed as being the most desired country to immigrate to, according to this source - which is obviously considered a reliable one as it is used so much in CS posts!

I find it outrageous that Americans are expected to sit back, and be insulted and maligned on a daily basis by others. It is not even a question of which country it is - that shouldnt matter...it is the fact that others seem to think it acceptable to bash another's country. Its not. Its hurtful, insulting and rude.

Irrespective of what you think about a country's political stance and policies, as we mostly know - this does not generally represent the opinion of Joe Bloggs on the street. Therefore, it is unfair to insult and malign a country's citizens, do you not think?

I believe respect should always be shown for other countries. CERTAINLY, the normal citizens of that country who simply want to live their lives and respect, and be respected.

This applies, in my opinion to all our countries, not just the USA, by the way.

Respect for each other's lands and cultures should be a given. Nothing more, nothing less.


Interesting post. The US is a fascinating country to study, it's influence on the world is great, its often billed as the place where dreams can come true, a super power, a place of freedom etc... but its hardly perfect,in fact no country is - not even my own. I can understand the attraction to all the wonderful oppertunities and there are many oppertunities to be had in the US. This is I think so many wish to leave their homeland and go there today as many did in the past. America has had a great influence on my country, in fact we paid host to many Americans during World War II. My own stance is that I'm neither overly critical nor overly in awe of America and yes the respect MUST be go both ways and this has not always been the case both here and in RL. They also say respect is earned it cannot be demanded. Not everyones homeland is a happy place so many try be any means necessary to improve their lot in life, perhaps if things were better in some countries I am almost certain most people would prefer to stay and apppreciate their own culture.wine
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Jun 30, 2010 5:53 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
tainogirl: Interesting post. The US is a fascinating country to study, it's influence on the world is great, its often billed as the place where dreams can come true, a super power, a place of freedom etc... but its hardly perfect,in fact no country is - not even my own. I can understand the attraction to all the wonderful oppertunities and there are many oppertunities to be had in the US. This is I think so many wish to leave their homeland and go there today as many did in the past. America has had a great influence on my country, in fact we paid host to many Americans during World War II. My own stance is that I'm neither overly critical nor overly in awe of America and yes the respect MUST be go both ways and this has not always been the case both here and in RL. They also say respect is earned it cannot be demanded. Not everyones homeland is a happy place so many try be any means necessary to improve their lot in life, perhaps if things were better in some countries I am almost certain most people would prefer to stay and apppreciate their own culture.


Nice post, Taino..thumbs up

As regards the above emboldened statement, well, there's the rub, as Shakespeare said. A huge amount of Americans, as far as I can gather are vehemently critical of their countries' policies. However, they will still defend their country's honor to the death. I believe this is correct, and I think we all would do that if we were pushed.

A statement made on another thread today sums up my feelings on the view of Americans: Dont judge a book by its cover..

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Jun 30, 2010 5:54 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
deadbutwhy
deadbutwhydeadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia18 Threads 5 Polls 2,244 Posts
DodgeBabe: That may be true, Pat, but its still unfair to bash and insult the American Man on the Street, as I see so many times on this forum. "He" is not responsible for his countries policies, per se. Anymore than you should be held accountable for what happens in Edinburgh, or Whitehall.

What Im trying to get across on this thread is that it is quite hurtful to Americans when the land they love is verbally attacked on a daily basis.

Dont shoot the messenger, as the saying goes..
I agree with you.

It makes sense that people focus on and are critical of US policy b/c it's very much consequential: America has the most leverage on global affairs... but to be critical of the people is not right. We sometimes tend to stereotype and pigeonhole people according to our perceived views of their country, religion or culture, and it's not fair, especially when we haven't lived there and our judgement is solely based on limited information.
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Jun 30, 2010 5:55 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
deadbutwhy: I agree with you.

It makes sense that people focus on and are critical of US policy b/c it's very much consequential: America has the most leverage on global affairs... but to be critical of the people is not right. We sometimes tend to stereotype and pigeonhole people according to our perceived views of their country, religion or culture, and it's not fair, especially when we haven't lived there and our judgement is solely based on limited information.


Exactly.thumbs up

wine
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Jun 30, 2010 5:58 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
deadbutwhy
deadbutwhydeadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia18 Threads 5 Polls 2,244 Posts
DodgeBabe: Nice post, Taino..

As regards the above emboldened statement, well, there's the rub, as Shakespeare said. A huge amount of Americans, as far as I can gather are vehemently critical of their countries' policies. However, they will still defend their country's honor to the death. I believe this is correct, and I think we all would do that if we were pushed.

A statement made on another thread today sums up my feelings on the view of Americans: Dont judge a book by its cover..


I think they confuse patriotism with tribalism. As MLK said, there can be no great disappointment, when there is no great love. The people who truly love their country are the ones who want their country to do the right thing at all times.
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Jun 30, 2010 6:01 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain130 Threads 5,364 Posts
DodgeBabe: Nice post, Taino..

As regards the above emboldened statement, well, there's the rub, as Shakespeare said. A huge amount of Americans, as far as I can gather are vehemently critical of their countries' policies. However, they will still defend their country's honor to the death. I believe this is correct, and I think we all would do that if we were pushed.

A statement made on another thread today sums up my feelings on the view of Americans: Dont judge a book by its cover..


The problem is that many Europeans don´t realise how many Americans are critical, and only when they befriend liberal minded Americans do they rethink his stance.

I´ve taught in many countries and I can honestly say that America and it´s policies do not go down well with the majority.

We see the wealthy American tourists, brash and rude in the main, expecting what they receive in their own country without any knowledge of cultural differences, sorry but that´s the truth, and rightly or wrongly that leaves a lasting impression.

I´m quite partial to liberal minded Americans though. wave
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Jun 30, 2010 6:04 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA307 Threads 9 Polls 24,994 Posts
JAN_is: The problem is that many Europeans don´t realise how many Americans are critical, and only when they befriend liberal minded Americans do they rethink his stance.

I´ve taught in many countries and I can honestly say that America and it´s policies do not go down well with the majority.

We see the wealthy American tourists, brash and rude in the main, expecting what they receive in their own country without any knowledge of cultural differences, sorry but that´s the truth, and rightly or wrongly that leaves a lasting impression.

I´m quite partial to liberal minded Americans though.
thumbs up indeed

this country is responsible in great part for its reception.

actions speak louder than words

america says one thing but has many agendas and dirty secrets that show her real priorities

america makes me sick and ashamed

we are so far from ideals that were first intended i think
and so little to be proud of

starving children, education lowest in the developed world,
society here is about idol worship (celebrities) and having things.

its a sad sad thing.
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Jun 30, 2010 6:06 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago368 Threads 7 Polls 6,881 Posts
DodgeBabe: Nice post, Taino..

As regards the above emboldened statement, well, there's the rub, as Shakespeare said. A huge amount of Americans, as far as I can gather are vehemently critical of their countries' policies. However, they will still defend their country's honor to the death. I believe this is correct, and I think we all would do that if we were pushed.

A statement made on another thread today sums up my feelings on the view of Americans: Dont judge a book by its cover..


Sometimes it is instructive for a country to turn an outward gaze and see itself as outsiders might view it, To whom much is given, much is expected.
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Jun 30, 2010 6:06 PM CST Respect for Others' Countries
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA40 Threads 3,348 Posts
JAN_is: The problem is that many Europeans don´t realise how many Americans are critical, and only when they befriend liberal minded Americans do they rethink his stance.

I´ve taught in many countries and I can honestly say that America and it´s policies do not go down well with the majority.

We see the wealthy American tourists, brash and rude in the main, expecting what they receive in their own country without any knowledge of cultural differences, sorry but that´s the truth, and rightly or wrongly that leaves a lasting impression.

I´m quite partial to liberal minded Americans though.


Hi Jan.

wave

Well, I have vivid memories of cringing when on holiday, hearing loud, overbearing German accents around the hotel pool. They also have a well-known reputation for being up at the crack of dawn in order to grab the best chairs around the pool. Painful, in the extreme!

That doesnt mean that I judge all Germans by these people, however.

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