hey, excuse me. i just stumbled on this thread, and......... i'll be damned if i am going to read the whole frickin thing to see if my point of view has been adressed already. and , as humble as i normally am, i make no apologies for it. i like posting, but , i do have things to do. but....... why does awoman say no, when she means maybe sounds like a safer thread title. there seems to be some confusion here, that makes no one happy. there are women that say no that mean no. and there are women that say no that want you to chase them. and they get pissed when we accept that and walk away. the women that say no and mean no need to put a whippin on the other ones that confuse the guys that don't know which is which. your beef is with the women that confuse simple minded guys, not with us. unless you think we aren't so simple minded. but, you have to pick one, it can't be both, depending on how you feel today.
pikengren: hey, excuse me. i just stumbled on this thread, and......... i'll be damned if i am going to read the whole frickin thing to see if my point of view has been adressed already. and , as humble as i normally am, i make no apologies for it. i like posting, but , i do have things to do. but....... why does awoman say no, when she means maybe sounds like a safer thread title. there seems to be some confusion here, that makes no one happy. there are women that say no that mean no. and there are women that say no that want you to chase them. and they get pissed when we accept that and walk away. the women that say no and mean no need to put a whippin on the other ones that confuse the guys that don't know which is which. your beef is with the women that confuse simple minded guys, not with us. unless you think we aren't so simple minded. but, you have to pick one, it can't be both, depending on how you feel today.
i posted the above in response to athread that got deleted in the middle of my reply.
the original thread sai "why do women say no, when they mean yes."
although i am being sarcastic, i do not agree with the original statement.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
pikengren: hey, excuse me. i just stumbled on this thread, and......... i'll be damned if i am going to read the whole frickin thing to see if my point of view has been adressed already. and , as humble as i normally am, i make no apologies for it. i like posting, but , i do have things to do. but....... why does awoman say no, when she means maybe sounds like a safer thread title. there seems to be some confusion here, that makes no one happy. there are women that say no that mean no. and there are women that say no that want you to chase them. and they get pissed when we accept that and walk away. the women that say no and mean no need to put a whippin on the other ones that confuse the guys that don't know which is which. your beef is with the women that confuse simple minded guys, not with us. unless you think we aren't so simple minded. but, you have to pick one, it can't be both, depending on how you feel today.
Yes means yes and no means no. Any fella worth his salt will respect this.
If a woman is unsure, her best bet is to either say no, or communicate her feelings properly. A bloke should either respect the no, or listen to alternative communication.
If a woman says no, because she doesn't feel able to communicate her feelings and everything goes pear-shaped its tough luck.
If a bloke doesn't respect no, or listen to alternative communication its wrong.
leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
I agree! When I say no I really do mean NO, and when I say MAYBE I mean that you're in with a chance. I think women do need to take a page out of men's books and say what they really mean. Unfortunately, not all of us do... and it must be confusing to you guys! I am generalising here, but I think men are better at direct communication - we women worry too much about hurting feelings etc so sometimes find it difficult to be direct. In the end I think being honest is the way to go, rather than giving hope where there is no hope and causing even more hurt in the long-run.
scoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA1,100 posts
If a woman is playing head games with me by saying no but meaning yes or any such thing is simply not worth my time so if they want to play such games Im gone. No is no whether they mean it or not
jac379: Yes means yes and no means no. Any fella worth his salt will respect this.
If a woman is unsure, her best bet is to either say no, or communicate her feelings properly. A bloke should either respect the no, or listen to alternative communication.
If a woman says no, because she doesn't feel able to communicate her feelings and everything goes pear-shaped its tough luck.
If a bloke doesn't respect no, or listen to alternative communication its wrong.
Only Yes, really means Yes.
Where's the confusion?
Jac xxx
ok. confusion lies in lack of communication, and missing key words.
we just may be getting closer to the heart of the matter.
scoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA1,100 posts
leostartingover: I agree! When I say no I really do mean NO, and when I say MAYBE I mean that you're in with a chance. I think women do need to take a page out of men's books and say what they really mean. Unfortunately, not all of us do... and it must be confusing to you guys! I am generalising here, but I think men are better at direct communication - we women worry too much about hurting feelings etc so sometimes find it difficult to be direct. In the end I think being honest is the way to go, rather than giving hope where there is no hope and causing even more hurt in the long-run.
Thank you for stating this so well. I get very frustrated some times when some women keep trying to figure out what I really mean when I say something when all they have to do is listen to what I am saying, There is no hidden agenda and what is between the lines is simply lines.
scoutmaster: Thank you for stating this so well. I get very frustrated some times when some women keep trying to figure out what I really mean when I say something when all they have to do is listen to what I am saying, There is no hidden agenda and what is between the lines is simply lines.
there is a lot of stuff that is between the lines that is a lot of fun.
but, when it comes to no at a particular moment, i am outta there.
but, in recognition of the original deleted thread,
i have seen disappointment, and even anger at this response.
could it be that not all women react EXACTLY the same, and all men don't react EXACTLY the same to these reactions?
no, because all women are exactly, and think exactly the same.
a few women have already told me what they think, so there couldn't be much variance that would confuse people right?
i mean, all guys are the same. we all think no means yes.
so we should be able to sort this out in short order.
leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
pikengren: there is a lot of stuff that is between the lines that is a lot of fun.
but, when it comes to no at a particular moment, i am outta there.
but, in recognition of the original deleted thread,
i have seen disappointment, and even anger at this response. could it be that not all women react EXACTLY the same, and all men don't react EXACTLY the same to these reactions?
no, because all women are exactly, and think exactly the same.
a few women have already told me what they think, so there couldn't be much variance that would confuse people right? i mean, all guys are the same. we all think no means yes.
so we should be able to sort this out in short order. are all women the same, or not?
pick one. you can't have it both ways.
Life would be extremely boring if ALL men and ALL women were the same! We're all different........ and react differently in any given situation.
leostartingover: Life would be extremely boring if ALL men and ALL women were the same! We're all different........ and react differently in any given situation.
lol
please understand, i'm very sarcastic about what i feel should be obvious. you are teasing me, right?
this was actually an experiment i was hired to do by an advertising agency.
they wanted to know if i used certian key words that incite an emotional response , if people would still miss other words that dictate the actual context that the key words were used in.
fortunately my report will indicate that corporate america is safe.
that means i get a big fat paycheck, and my childrens future is secure, because i taught them to look at all the words in a sentence, especially the noncommital ones.
pikengren: hey, excuse me. i just stumbled on this thread, and......... i'll be damned if i am going to read the whole frickin thing to see if my point of view has been adressed already. and , as humble as i normally am, i make no apologies for it. i like posting, but , i do have things to do. but....... why does awoman say no, when she means maybe sounds like a safer thread title. there seems to be some confusion here, that makes no one happy. there are women that say no that mean no. and there are women that say no that want you to chase them. and they get pissed when we accept that and walk away. the women that say no and mean no need to put a whippin on the other ones that confuse the guys that don't know which is which. your beef is with the women that confuse simple minded guys, not with us. unless you think we aren't so simple minded. but, you have to pick one, it can't be both, depending on how you feel today.
You do know about the Men who finally figured out Women????
well he dies laughing ...and took his secret to the grave....
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