If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country... (18)

Jul 25, 2010 6:33 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
aynrandfan
aynrandfanaynrandfanToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 38 Posts
Why is my favourite hanging place, Chapters not support french books or magasines, I believe they do have Spanish ones in the U.S?


I don't want to be "American/U.S" Give me back my countryhandshake canada We used to have so many little books stores in Toronto (French ones too) all exploited by the bigger book stores, and in the end we are losing our heritage.


peace
Jul 26, 2010 12:34 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
eyesthatknowwhy
eyesthatknowwhyeyesthatknowwhyWhitehorse, Yukon Territory Canada88 Threads 1,405 Posts
aynrandfan: Why is my favourite hanging place, Chapters not support french books or magasines, I believe they do have Spanish ones in the U.S?I don't want to be "American/U.S" Give me back my country We used to have so many little books stores in Toronto (French ones too) all exploited by the bigger book stores, and in the end we are losing our heritage.


dunno sorry, at a loss...
Jul 26, 2010 3:48 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
cincity
cincitycincitytoronto, Ontario Canada9 Threads 2,496 Posts
Well first you can thank chapters for buying up alot of those small independant book stores..and secondly there is not a large market for french language books in Toronto.
Who's losing there heritage? French is not my heritage is it yours?
Jul 26, 2010 9:56 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
aynrandfan
aynrandfanaynrandfanToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 38 Posts
cincity: Well first you can thank chapters for buying up alot of those small independent book stores..and secondly there is not a large market for french language books in Toronto.
Who's losing there heritage? French is not my heritage is it yours?



You are all missing the point, it's not just Chapters it's everything in Canada, it's been blinding us over the decades and getting to the point there will be no Canada.

Look at the G20 it's like a bad dream in American Movies, it was totally U.S driven such as Police even in the crowds. I was there I saw them, so obvious they were looking like creatures out of a bad movie starting trouble not peace!

"Oh Canada, please stand on guard for thee!!!"

sad flower canada
Jul 26, 2010 10:50 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
eyesthatknowwhy
eyesthatknowwhyeyesthatknowwhyWhitehorse, Yukon Territory Canada88 Threads 1,405 Posts
Must be be because it's Monday morning...or...I am once again stuck in dumb, but I am just not getting this one. It's me, I know dunno confused doh conversing Therefor, not giving it any more thought, because I have limited amount of thought left and do not get a day off until after working 10 straight....and I do not have alot of valuable reasoning power left over to expend upon....you know...stuff
Aug 12, 2010 7:20 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
omnideuce
omnideuceomnideuceOliver, British Columbia Canada1 Posts
nah, the states are the melting pot.
We're a mosaic head banger
Aug 13, 2010 7:36 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
aynrandfan: You are all missing the point, it's not just Chapters it's everything in Canada, it's been blinding us over the decades and getting to the point there will be no Canada.

Look at the G20 it's like a bad dream in American Movies, it was totally U.S driven such as Police even in the crowds. I was there I saw them, so obvious they were looking like creatures out of a bad movie starting trouble not peace!

"Oh Canada, please stand on guard for thee!!!"


I lived in Quebec. The area we lived in, it was impossible to get English books. Even in the AMERICAN owned Walmart. Library had English books that were as old as the hills.

JMO, if stores are going to be required to have Books in English and French ... it should also be the same in Quebec. What about other people who are Canadian and speak another language? Why not have books in their language as well?

Stores do not provide books in French, (outside of Quebec) because of the cost. A store does not buy one book at a time, it has to order so many books. If the books don't sell, it affects profits and cost of ordering etc those books. It's not a political thing, it's business. Chapters/Indigo will order books in other languages (where I live), and Audrey's book store will do the same. Even books that are not popular or the type you'd normally see in a book store.
Aug 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
What does such an exclusively english place like Toronto need french books for.Heck with all of the darn immigrants you are lucky if they can even speak english.
Aug 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
What does such an exclusively english place like Toronto need french books for.Heck with all of the darn immigrants you are lucky if they can even speak english.
Aug 14, 2010 10:58 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
What does such an exclusively english place like Toronto need french books for.Heck with all of the darn immigrants you are lucky if they can even speak english.
Aug 14, 2010 12:31 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
vikeing
vikeingvikeingship harbour, Nova Scotia Canada2 Posts
WHY are you grumbling about no french in chaptres maybe they got sick of haveing the french thing pushed their throatso while rome do as the romans did and demand the same thing speak english and let the swampsingers speak french you should be so lucky to live in this country with almost everything given so stop whineing and enjoy
Aug 14, 2010 12:41 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
vikeing
vikeingvikeingship harbour, Nova Scotia Canada2 Posts
MARYRACHEllE. you are so very right so why all the fuss about no french reading i think we as an english country should all speak english except those who can ask momma for dinner
Sep 7, 2010 5:52 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
DarkenedSoul
DarkenedSoulDarkenedSoulSt. Hubert, Quebec Canada3 Posts
vikeing: WHY are you grumbling about no french in chaptres maybe they got sick of haveing the french thing pushed their throatso while rome do as the romans did and demand the same thing speak english and let the swampsingers speak french you should be so lucky to live in this country with almost everything given so stop whineing and enjoy


Try: WHY are you grumbling about no French in Chapters maybe they got sick of having the French thing pushed their throat so when in Rome do as the Romans did and demand the same thing speak English and let the swampsingers speak French you should be so lucky to live in this country with almost everything given so stop whining and enjoy.

But then again what do I know about the English language. I'm just a "swampsinger'.
In so far as being lucky to live here remember that Canada is originally made up of Upper and Lower Canada. One English and the other French. My ancestors came here with a land grant while this was still a French colony.
You will find more services available to English speaking people in Quebec than to French speakers in Toronto. Anglophones come to Quebec and demand to served in their language .... uh Bienvenue au Quebec! I lived in Toronto and tried it as an experiment to get service in French, you can guess what happened.

Before you start ...... sorry, I am not a Separatist. Nor am I a ...French first in Quebec sort of person. I have an honest belief that this country was founded on the basis of two official languages.

btw .... I am NOT a "swampsinger". I am Canadian of who's mother tongue is French. I also take pride in being fluent in the other official language of Canada. How are you doing on that?
Sep 7, 2010 9:30 AM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
maryrachelle: What does such an exclusively english place like Toronto need french books for.Heck with all of the darn immigrants you are lucky if they can even speak english.


exactly, my cleaner does not speak much English. she speaks Spanish and has lived in Canada for 24 years. even her kids who were born in Canada speak Spanish because that's the language she taught them and speaks to them in.
Sep 7, 2010 6:31 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
gsmonks
gsmonksgsmonksSpalding, Saskatchewan Canada20 Threads 10 Polls 386 Posts
The header of this thread is all wrong. It shouldn't read:

"If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country . . ."

It should read:

This is Canada, the pot country . . ."

Now you know all you need to know about Canada.
Sep 7, 2010 6:44 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
gsmonks
gsmonksgsmonksSpalding, Saskatchewan Canada20 Threads 10 Polls 386 Posts
The French/English thing was the petulant hubris of murderous European sea-pirates who usurped this land from indigenous peoples whose languages are all but exinct, mainly due to overbearing religious exploitation and bigotry.
Sep 9, 2010 12:29 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
KHD100: I lived in Quebec. The area we lived in, it was impossible to get English books. Even in the AMERICAN owned Walmart. Library had English books that were as old as the hills.
JMO, if stores are going to be required to have Books in English and French ... it should also be the same in Quebec. What about other people who are Canadian and speak another language? Why not have books in their language as well?

Stores do not provide books in French, (outside of Quebec) because of the cost. A store does not buy one book at a time, it has to order so many books. If the books don't sell, it affects profits and cost of ordering etc those books. It's not a political thing, it's business. Chapters/Indigo will order books in other languages (where I live), and Audrey's book store will do the same. Even books that are not popular or the type you'd normally see in a book store.



I can understand your frustration for not being able to find the English books you would have liked and even though I’m convinced what you’re saying is true I think you’re not being fair but rather bias in your comments and this for the below reasons.
The OP mentions not being able to find French books in Libraries and based on information in their profile which mentions Toronto, Canada I take it this person is talking about finding French books in Libraries in Toronto or the Toronto area.
If that were the case one should realize and take into consideration that Toronto is the biggest city in Canada with a population of approximately 2.5 million while the area you’re talking about is probably Rouyn Noranda which today has a population of approximately 41,000 and this since the fusion of different municipalities in 2002, before that year the population was less than 30,000. As you also know Rouyn Noranda is a mining town located in northwestern Quebec, an area one could consider remote but that’s not the point I want to emphasize.
What I want to emphasize is if someone were to go to bigger centers in Quebec, for example Montreal which has a population of approximately 1.6 million, 65% that of Toronto I can assure you they’d find all the English books they were looking for and they’d also have a vast selection of English magazines and newspapers to enjoy.
One must look at facts, take for example Montreal’s McGill University, it’s an English University located in downtown Montreal whose main language of instruction is English; it’s not only one of the best Universities in Canada but also in the world. International students make up 19% of its student population and this is the largest percentage of any Canadian University.
Sep 9, 2010 5:25 PM CST If this is Canada the Bilingual melting pot country...
gordy22222
gordy22222gordy22222whitehorse, Yukon Territory Canada22 Threads 3 Polls 938 Posts
i d brag about the yukon with no pst but then we would have an influx of more leaf lickers an tree huggers wanting to live cheapand we sure got too many already .our population is bout 30 m and 8 m work ///put time in ///as government workers of one sort or amother..the 8 g workers and 30 m general pop including little kids who will soon grow up phicicly/bad spel/ and soon will be wanting a dog f job in gvmnt..in enforcement likly..jeeeezzee im off on a bit of a tangent rant here aint i ..
oohhh wellll gordy theoldsillyfosifer
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