Should convicted criminals serving time in prison be expected to (39)
Yes, they should.
Work is part of the therapy and they would be able to rehabilitate and pay back the state for the costs their imprisonment incurs.
They should also receive a minimum payment for their work , so by the time they get out of prison, they would be able to maintain themselves and stay out of trouble.
Work is part of the therapy and they would be able to rehabilitate and pay back the state for the costs their imprisonment incurs.
They should also receive a minimum payment for their work , so by the time they get out of prison, they would be able to maintain themselves and stay out of trouble.
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Yes, I think it's a good idea and hopefully for some training for a job that they could do when released.
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I too agree with a low wage given to them 
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HexagonKeySet: contribute to their keep by doing 'meaningful work' that produces for the prison system?
I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?
I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?
"they are becoming a threat"...
How many is there...:-))))))))
I agree with the C.Dept...
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HexagonKeySet: contribute to their keep by doing 'meaningful work' that produces for the prison system?
I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?
I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?
If they ( the DOC ) aren't paying wages and subsidized for operations - then the produce should be marketed by the existing commercial growers so that it doesn't compete with their business. Government products should never compete with commercial business ......
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work their asses off pay them a dollar an hour .
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adamisk: work their asses off pay them a dollar an hour .
Only if they're a good "wife" to their cell-mate ....
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HexagonKeySet: contribute to their keep by doing 'meaningful work' that produces for the prison system?
I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?
I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?
they should contribute to the work force, however find a line of work that is less desirable and not hurting commercial workers.
They should also get a wage for the work they do if eventually they will go back into the real world again, if they are lifers without the chance of parole then the wage should first go to any restitution that they may owe for the crime they committed, if nothing is owed then donate to a local charity
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night_whispers50: they should contribute to the work force, however find a line of work that is less desirable and not hurting commercial workers.
They should also get a wage for the work they do if eventually they will go back into the real world again, if they are lifers without the chance of parole then the wage should first go to any restitution that they may owe for the crime they committed, if nothing is owed then donate to a local charity
They should also get a wage for the work they do if eventually they will go back into the real world again, if they are lifers without the chance of parole then the wage should first go to any restitution that they may owe for the crime they committed, if nothing is owed then donate to a local charity
You wanna pay a wage outta your tax money to convicted criminals in the big-house ?
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jvaski: You wanna pay a wage outta your tax money to convicted criminals in the big-house ?
not tax money. you rent them out, clearing brush etc. something no one else wants to do, helps the community and less damage to the local work force, like in the olden days they put them to hard labor, back then it was splitting rock, clearing brush, building roads etc.
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HexagonKeySet: ...'meaningful work'..............
they should work period!
and/or study and/or get trained on something.
for NZ dept of correction they could make an adjustment to what and what amount to produce besides the horticultural products like to make some useful furniture, wool products, etc.
In México they work and/or study to some extent but they are not obligated, they should be obligated to work or/and study.
We work to pay their living!
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In most european countries they have to work. Better that way.
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night_whispers50: not tax money. you rent them out, clearing brush etc. something no one else wants to do, helps the community and less damage to the local work force, like in the olden days they put them to hard labor, back then it was splitting rock, clearing brush, building roads etc.
Does that mean I could rent women prisoners to do my yard and clean my home, maybe wash the car ?
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jvaski: Does that mean I could rent women prisoners to do my yard and clean my home, maybe wash the car ?
like the lady washing the car in Cool hand Luke, not a bad idea
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night_whispers50: like the lady washing the car in Cool hand Luke, not a bad idea
Now we're gettin somewhere !
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jvaski: Does that mean I could rent women prisoners to do my yard and clean my home, maybe wash the car ?
I would not want some men nor woman prisioners for any task at my house!
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lifeisadream: I would not want some men nor woman prisioners for any task at my house!
Not even if you could pay a little extra to have them scantily-clothed working in the hot sun with halter-tops on ?
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jvaski: Not even if you could pay a little extra to have them scantily-clothed working in the hot sun with halter-tops on ?
I will pass!
all yours
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jvaski: Not even if you could pay a little extra to have them scantily-clothed working in the hot sun with halter-tops on ?
Yer an optimist then ...
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I ask the question as the NZ Dept of Corrections is engaged in commercial horticulture now to the extent that they are becoming a threat (commercial growers say) to their livelihoods because DoC don't have to pay wages and their operational costs are heavily subsidised?
What happens in other countries and what are your thoughts?