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magna1stockholm, Stockholm Sweden33 Threads 278 PostsA recent,joint Danish/Swedish survey shows some surprising statistics about Turkey.Even though surveys/polls can´t be 100% trusted,it still raises eyebrows....."3 out of 4 women are monthly fysically/physically mistreated"....."70% of the citizens never read a book"...."73% sees the neighbouring countries as a threat towards Turkish integrity"..."57% of men,say that not wearing a veil in public is unacceptable".."70% of men say that patriarchism is alright"...."25-30% are married within family/relatives"...."13% of parents,and 9,9% of pupils have witnessed a honour-killing"..."26,2 of parents,and 25,9% of pupils believe honour-killing is alright"......and much more....As Pres.Erdogan been imprisoned for violent,pro-Islamic speeches,and sending his daughters abroad,-to avoid the veil-prohibition in public schools and University´s,-it raises eyebrows even more...Part of this survey was sent to Mr.David Cameron....to "open his eyes"....Interesting,but a survey´s a survey....Question is....which direction is Turkey heading...As Mark Steyn(Canadian journalist&author),says..."Kemalism is dead,-if the White House&Pentagon can´t see that,-they´re blind...."
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magna1: A recent,joint Danish/Swedish survey shows some surprising statistics about Turkey.Even though surveys/polls can´t be 100% trusted,it still raises eyebrows....."3 out of 4 women are monthly fysically/physically mistreated"....."70% of the citizens never read a book"...."73% sees the neighbouring countries as a threat towards Turkish integrity"..."57% of men,say that not wearing a veil in public is unacceptable".."70% of men say that patriarchism is alright"...."25-30% are married within family/relatives"...."13% of parents,and 9,9% of pupils have witnessed a honour-killing"..."26,2 of parents,and 25,9% of pupils believe honour-killing is alright"......and much more....As Pres.Erdogan been imprisoned for violent,pro-Islamic speeches,and sending his daughters abroad,-to avoid the veil-prohibition in public schools and University´s,-it raises eyebrows even more...Part of this survey was sent to Mr.David Cameron....to "open his eyes"....Interesting,but a survey´s a survey....Question is....which direction is Turkey heading...As Mark Steyn(Canadian journalist&author),says..."Kemalism is dead,-if the White House&Pentagon can´t see that,-they´re blind...."
No let up for Muslims with you around!
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Godsgift: No let up for Muslims with you around!
Turkey is actually highly significant to see if Democracy/consumer Capitalism and Islam will mesh.
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magna1: A recent,joint Danish/Swedish survey shows some surprising statistics about Turkey.Even though surveys/polls can´t be 100% trusted,it still raises eyebrows....."3 out of 4 women are monthly fysically/physically mistreated"....."70% of the citizens never read a book"...."73% sees the neighbouring countries as a threat towards Turkish integrity"..."57% of men,say that not wearing a veil in public is unacceptable".."70% of men say that patriarchism is alright"...."25-30% are married within family/relatives"...."13% of parents,and 9,9% of pupils have witnessed a honour-killing"..."26,2 of parents,and 25,9% of pupils believe honour-killing is alright"......and much more....As Pres.Erdogan been imprisoned for violent,pro-Islamic speeches,and sending his daughters abroad,-to avoid the veil-prohibition in public schools and University´s,-it raises eyebrows even more...Part of this survey was sent to Mr.David Cameron....to "open his eyes"....Interesting,but a survey´s a survey....Question is....which direction is Turkey heading...As Mark Steyn(Canadian journalist&author),says..."Kemalism is dead,-if the White House&Pentagon can´t see that,-they´re blind...."
I am not sure what you are asking if anything....I don't agree with these things ,but what they do on the other side of Earth is thier busness as long as it does not effect me or mine personally...
I would not wish to live there, and think of myself as lucky I was born in America (with all it's faults)And not there.
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And in Sweden, there were women who were forced into steralisation, "Eugenics". Was not too long ago either. Back in the 1970's this practice was supposedly knocked on the head. Lovely.
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Veritaas: And in Sweden, there were women who were forced into steralisation, "Eugenics". Was not too long ago either. Back in the 1970's this practice was supposedly knocked on the head. Lovely.
come on now...We all know people that should not be allowed to procreate....
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Veritaas: And in Sweden, there were women who were forced into steralisation, "Eugenics". Was not too long ago either. Back in the 1970's this practice was supposedly knocked on the head. Lovely.
Completely right....and disgusting...Thankfully that was abandoned,-but what has that to do with my thread?????Yepp....Sweden´s full of wrongs,-as a matter of fact,-yesterday a survey showed,that Sweden can be proud of one more thing....Nr.2 when it comes to rapes(per capita),worldwide....Just got knocked down the top-spot by S.Africa...But I´m sure our liberals work on that,to get it fixed til next year.....------ This thread is Archived ------
magna1: Completely right....and disgusting...Thankfully that was abandoned,-but what has that to do with my thread?????Yepp....Sweden´s full of wrongs,-as a matter of fact,-yesterday a survey showed,that Sweden can be proud of one more thing....Nr.2 when it comes to rapes(per capita),worldwide....Just got knocked down the top-spot by S.Africa...But I´m sure our liberals work on that,to get it fixed til next year.....
I thought that would of been blatantly obvious due to your posting history here on CS.
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Veritaas: I thought that would of been blatantly obvious due to your posting history here on CS.
Er...again...my English doesn´t quite catch up with everything...Blatantly obvious???Sorry,-not sure what that really means.....Excuse me...------ This thread is Archived ------
magna1: Er...again...my English doesn´t quite catch up with everything...Blatantly obvious???Sorry,-not sure what that really means.....Excuse me...
Basically alot of your thread history is about countries that are muslim, or predominantly muslim.
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Veritaas: Basically alot of your thread history is about countries that are muslim, or predominantly muslim.
Ok..I see..and again,-you´re right!!!But,is that a problem with you???I don´t see that as a problem,-after all,-we(still),have freedom of speech!!!And while on it,-aren´t you upset with all anti-Israel/US-posts that constanly "floating" around here....???I am...remember "Ship to Gaza"-thread,people where showing hatred towards Israel/US..and that really upsets me...But,freedom of speech´s a great thing of the West....And,-did you know,what happened 2 days ago in Sidot(could be wrong about the place)...A Hamas missile hit an Israeli school,-luckily,-none of the 100 children where attending that day...point is....reading Main Stream Media won´t tell you anything,-many people are still living in some dream-world,and pretending to be concerned...I am..and i don´t excuse myself for that....------ This thread is Archived ------
magna1: Ok..I see..and again,-you´re right!!!But,is that a problem with you???I don´t see that as a problem,-after all,-we(still),have freedom of speech!!!And while on it,-aren´t you upset with all anti-Israel/US-posts that constanly "floating" around here....???I am...remember "Ship to Gaza"-thread,people where showing hatred towards Israel/US..and that really upsets me...But,freedom of speech´s a great thing of the West....And,-did you know,what happened 2 days ago in Sidot(could be wrong about the place)...A Hamas missile hit an Israeli school,-luckily,-none of the 100 children where attending that day...point is....reading Main Stream Media won´t tell you anything,-many people are still living in some dream-world,and pretending to be concerned...I am..and i don´t excuse myself for that....
Yes, many around the world have freedom of speech but it also how they put their point across too. Some of it can come across as just spreading propaganda, or indeed hatred towards another culture or religion.
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Veritaas: Yes, many around the world have freedom of speech but it also how they put their point across too. Some of it can come across as just spreading propaganda, or indeed hatred towards another culture or religion.
Veritaas...you´re always right,and I suppose Conjour´s a happy man!!!Propaganda...yes....as I just wrote,-the anti-Israeli/US threads upset me alot....So I fully agree!Hatred is an ugly thing,-and who ever wrote hatred???Unfortunately,-I´ve seen posts where people say that they hate the US or Israel or European countries,-so you´re completely right.....As your name says,-do you like the truth????------ This thread is Archived ------
magna1: Veritaas...you´re always right,and I suppose Conjour´s a happy man!!!Propaganda...yes....as I just wrote,-the anti-Israeli/US threads upset me alot....So I fully agree!Hatred is an ugly thing,-and who ever wrote hatred???Unfortunately,-I´ve seen posts where people say that they hate the US or Israel or European countries,-so you´re completely right.....As your name says,-do you like the truth????
The truth, it exists, but when some are slapped in the face with it, this can take time for them to fathom out and understand completely, if they get there.
As regards Conjour you best ask the man himself.
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i have lived with turkish people,there is a cleveage between modernized and other people.
comparing its situation to iran,i can say that Reaz Shah heritage of freethinking was ruined by military force ,but the
ata turks heritage is being saved by military force.
i mean initialy their majuruty is more muslim .
comparing its situation to iran,i can say that Reaz Shah heritage of freethinking was ruined by military force ,but the
ata turks heritage is being saved by military force.
i mean initialy their majuruty is more muslim .
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