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Sep 13, 2010 9:26 AM CST Are there any Japanese historians here?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
I recently heard it rumored Japan was secretly in negotiations to ending WWII prior to the bombing of Hiroshima. If this is true, why was the bomb dropped? Why was a second bomb dropped?

"TO ME", it would be interesting to hear the other side of the story..
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Sep 13, 2010 9:57 AM CST Are there any Japanese historians here?
HJFinAZ: I recently heard it rumored Japan was secretly in negotiations to ending WWII prior to the bombing of Hiroshima. If this is true, why was the bomb dropped? Why was a second bomb dropped?

"TO ME", it would be interesting to hear the other side of the story..
I read the Memoirs of the CIA-Chief Colby,and he claims that the Japanese had approached Stalin about a possible Armistice,but that Stalin wanted Sakhalin and the Kuriles back,so he never informed the Western Allies about it.
The after the Bomb was dropped,he declared War on Japan,and occupied those Islands,also went for Manchuria.

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Sep 13, 2010 10:00 AM CST Are there any Japanese historians here?
ttom500
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I saw a documentary on Atomic bomb attack. HJ.....the Japanese military feared the Emperor would begin negoiations and bascially placed him under house arrest after the first one was dropped.

So yes there is maybe some truth to the story.

But by placing him under house arrest.....he was not able to form a group of Japanese Adminstrators to negotiate for peace till after the second one was dropped.

It was clear after that happened, the military could not longer protect the country...the miltiary 'lost face'....a big issue in Japan at the time that was still adhering to the code of the Samuri.....and then the few Japanese doves could negotiate for peace.

Think it will work for Iran? If we can get Ahermanjada to lose face? Guess not.....blues
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Sep 13, 2010 10:01 AM CST Are there any Japanese historians here?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Thanks Conrad..

I have bookmarked this page and will do some more reading shortly. Recent reading has given me a new perspective on some things..cheers <<coffeegrin
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Sep 13, 2010 10:07 AM CST Are there any Japanese historians here?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
HJFinAZ: Thanks Conrad..

I have bookmarked this page and will do some more reading shortly. Recent reading has given me a new perspective on some things.. <<coffee


800 pages is a little much...maybe the Cliff Note Version? laugh
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Sep 13, 2010 10:25 AM CST Are there any Japanese historians here?
HJFinAZ: Thanks Conrad..

I have bookmarked this page and will do some more reading shortly. Recent reading has given me a new perspective on some things.. <<coffee
You're welcome!
Been quite a while since I read Colby's Autobiography.thumbs up
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