how do you feel about the EU? (25)
disband the eu, and go back to seperate countries 
theduke1980: Pessimist man.....
You dont like Europe?
You dont like Europe?
and who will rule this one state that u dream of...are u totally nuts, do u have ur head stuck where the sun dont shine...wake up and smell the roses before its too late!!!
Mazza1970: and who will rule this one state that u dream of...are u totally nuts, do u have ur head stuck where the sun dont shine...wake up and smell the roses before its too late!!!
Its beyond your understanding, thats o.k, but certainly no need to to be insulting! It will be a democracy, any person can rule, you know that, vote in a govern. Its likely to happen, not anytime soon, but im sure it will. We already have a single currency, your grandfather may have heard that all those years ago and probably said something similar to what you said to me!!!!! But its happened.
Its not me not smelling roses, its an idea! The states used to be little countries, now its the united states of america, do the same to europe, and hopefully it will.
Of course much harder because of cultural loss, and good fellows such as yourself and green beard not agreeing with an idealism! Thats your generation, but the new generations to come may find Europe a better place unted as 1?!
I look forward to the years to come as Europe looks forward, and leaving behind those who look behind, like you, and green beard!!!!
Have a nice day.
theduke1980: Its beyond your understanding, thats o.k, but certainly no need to to be insulting! It will be a democracy, any person can rule, you know that, vote in a govern. Its likely to happen, not anytime soon, but im sure it will. We already have a single currency, your grandfather may have heard that all those years ago and probably said something similar to what you said to me!!!!! But its happened.
Its not me not smelling roses, its an idea! The states used to be little countries, now its the united states of america, do the same to europe, and hopefully it will.
Of course much harder because of cultural loss, and good fellows such as yourself and green beard not agreeing with an idealism! Thats your generation, but the new generations to come may find Europe a better place unted as 1?!
I look forward to the years to come as Europe looks forward, and leaving behind those who look behind, like you, and green beard!!!!
Have a nice day.
Its not me not smelling roses, its an idea! The states used to be little countries, now its the united states of america, do the same to europe, and hopefully it will.
Of course much harder because of cultural loss, and good fellows such as yourself and green beard not agreeing with an idealism! Thats your generation, but the new generations to come may find Europe a better place unted as 1?!
I look forward to the years to come as Europe looks forward, and leaving behind those who look behind, like you, and green beard!!!!
Have a nice day.
what u dont realise is that this will then become the united states of europe, with one controlling body, while to u this may sound good and dandy, share the wealth, resources, etc, to me is sounds like a very very bad idea, as said this will push us ever closer to the NWO which is something i am totally against, personally i like my freedom, as much of it as i have, to be under one government will reduce this.
Again we are all entitled to our opinions, personally i think yours is wrong but thats your right to have one, as is mine, tomorrow when we have less rights, and are told what to do i hope you are happy with the dream
Mazza1970: what u dont realise is that this will then become the united states of europe, with one controlling body, while to u this may sound good and dandy, share the wealth, resources, etc, to me is sounds like a very very bad idea, as said this will push us ever closer to the NWO which is something i am totally against, personally i like my freedom, as much of it as i have, to be under one government will reduce this.
Again we are all entitled to our opinions, personally i think yours is wrong but thats your right to have one, as is mine, tomorrow when we have less rights, and are told what to do i hope you are happy with the dream
Again we are all entitled to our opinions, personally i think yours is wrong but thats your right to have one, as is mine, tomorrow when we have less rights, and are told what to do i hope you are happy with the dream
Loss of rights and freedom is a natural instinct, especially when faced with change (s). It is our immediate fear, which is why there is fear and doubt with change in hand.
We will never lose our rights and freedom, it just cant be ruled into the factors....
With unity there will also be more freedoms, and more rights. It will benefit Europeans who are less fortunate than Western Europeans, spreading wealth, prosperity, security, health and education. This is what Europe, as a bigger picture, wants....
The next big step in Europe is to convert the U.K to the Euro dollar, imagine the Commonwealth and FTSE 100 using the Euro... Yes, it will be very problomatic for British economics, but eventually there will be an ironing of the creases!
After, you have no convertions via London, simplifing matters more so.....
Even Scandinavia using the Euro..... In short, the more the better, for all...
theduke1980: Pessimist man.....
You dont like Europe?
the Wannabe USSR-Clone?You dont like Europe?
theduke1980: Loss of rights and freedom is a natural instinct, especially when faced with change (s). It is our immediate fear, which is why there is fear and doubt with change in hand.
We will never lose our rights and freedom, it just cant be ruled into the factors....
With unity there will also be more freedoms, and more rights. It will benefit Europeans who are less fortunate than Western Europeans, spreading wealth, prosperity, security, health and education. This is what Europe, as a bigger picture, wants....
The next big step in Europe is to convert the U.K to the Euro dollar, imagine the Commonwealth and FTSE 100 using the Euro... Yes, it will be very problomatic for British economics, but eventually there will be an ironing of the creases!
After, you have no convertions via London, simplifing matters more so.....
Even Scandinavia using the Euro..... In short, the more the better, for all...
Definitely makes for a Bigger Fall!We will never lose our rights and freedom, it just cant be ruled into the factors....
With unity there will also be more freedoms, and more rights. It will benefit Europeans who are less fortunate than Western Europeans, spreading wealth, prosperity, security, health and education. This is what Europe, as a bigger picture, wants....
The next big step in Europe is to convert the U.K to the Euro dollar, imagine the Commonwealth and FTSE 100 using the Euro... Yes, it will be very problomatic for British economics, but eventually there will be an ironing of the creases!
After, you have no convertions via London, simplifing matters more so.....
Even Scandinavia using the Euro..... In short, the more the better, for all...
Suppose it would be better NOT to make any Creases!
Collectivism never helped anyone,see again,the Old USSR!
theduke1980: Its beyond your understanding, thats o.k, but certainly no need to to be insulting! It will be a democracy, any person can rule, you know that, vote in a govern. Its likely to happen, not anytime soon, but im sure it will. We already have a single currency, your grandfather may have heard that all those years ago and probably said something similar to what you said to me!!!!! But its happened.
Its not me not smelling roses, its an idea! The states used to be little countries, now its the united states of america, do the same to europe, and hopefully it will.
Of course much harder because of cultural loss, and good fellows such as yourself and green beard not agreeing with an idealism! Thats your generation, but the new generations to come may find Europe a better place unted as 1?!
I look forward to the years to come as Europe looks forward, and leaving behind those who look behind, like you, and green beard!!!!
Have a nice day.
Love that Brussels-Mafia,hmmmmm?Its not me not smelling roses, its an idea! The states used to be little countries, now its the united states of america, do the same to europe, and hopefully it will.
Of course much harder because of cultural loss, and good fellows such as yourself and green beard not agreeing with an idealism! Thats your generation, but the new generations to come may find Europe a better place unted as 1?!
I look forward to the years to come as Europe looks forward, and leaving behind those who look behind, like you, and green beard!!!!
Have a nice day.
I think a Europe in which a Head of State could do as he/she likes without being challenged in any way would be a less safe, less stable world. So in that sense I am pro EU.
As for the hapless benighted Roma, I don't have the answer. Most of the deported Roma are already walking back to France... and those French nationals who have been thrown out of illegal camps are simply setting up new camps elsewhere.
Why? Because they have no other option.
As for the hapless benighted Roma, I don't have the answer. Most of the deported Roma are already walking back to France... and those French nationals who have been thrown out of illegal camps are simply setting up new camps elsewhere.
Why? Because they have no other option.
wordsmith99: I think a Europe in which a Head of State could do as he/she likes without being challenged in any way would be a less safe, less stable world. So in that sense I am pro EU.
As for the hapless benighted Roma, I don't have the answer. Most of the deported Roma are already walking back to France... and those French nationals who have been thrown out of illegal camps are simply setting up new camps elsewhere.
Why? Because they have no other option.
As for the hapless benighted Roma, I don't have the answer. Most of the deported Roma are already walking back to France... and those French nationals who have been thrown out of illegal camps are simply setting up new camps elsewhere.
Why? Because they have no other option.
There possibly wouldnt / couldnt be a Euro head of state that could simply do as he wishes. THIS IS EUROPE!!!!
But great you are pro European
theduke1980: Have no fear, there will not be another ethnic cleansing. Europeans have moved on, its all change for the better! Just individual doubt about change.
Old school comments like that is the reason i focus my chat on the new generations to come, they will never think along your lines!
Your "NEW" Policies have already failed in the Past,you just haven't done your Research!Old school comments like that is the reason i focus my chat on the new generations to come, they will never think along your lines!
Conrad73: Your "NEW" Policies have already failed in the Past,you just haven't done your Research!
And you're about to invite a Trojan Horse!
Conrad73: Your "NEW" Policies have already failed in the Past,you just haven't done your Research!
Conrad,
Just looking for Euro opinions, and future of Europe..... Your past im sorry has only been negative towards other threaders.... I guess this forum is over now, thanks :(
theduke1980: Conrad,
Just looking for Euro opinions, and future of Europe..... Your past im sorry has only been negative towards other threaders.... I guess this forum is over now, thanks :(
Collectivism is going to destroy Europe in the same way it destroyed the Eastern-Block!Just looking for Euro opinions, and future of Europe..... Your past im sorry has only been negative towards other threaders.... I guess this forum is over now, thanks :(
You'll have to keep on bailing out different EU-States!
OP - are you in favour of limiting freedom of movement within EU member states for all members or just certain minorities? On what grounds do you think Sarkozy's actions are justified?
And why do you consider the formation of an EU-wide constitution to be detrimental to Dutch interest?
And why do you consider the formation of an EU-wide constitution to be detrimental to Dutch interest?
It’s election to the Swedish parliament this weekend, and consequently we were enjoying a lot of information on the subject. Impossible to say who it would be, but my impression is that sympathy to Nationalist party is strongly than ever. Isn’t it a general tendency for the current Europe?
I don’t want to sound as Cassandra, but as I see it if Europe would unite, it’ll be not for something, but against…someone. (And when extremists get together, the question about rights becomes hypothetical, I’m afraid…)
I don’t want to sound as Cassandra, but as I see it if Europe would unite, it’ll be not for something, but against…someone. (And when extremists get together, the question about rights becomes hypothetical, I’m afraid…)
too early to express opinions, l suggest waiting at least 100 years before saying something about
I doubt that anyone could be enamoured by the common notion of such an overbureaucratic, undemocratic, self-serving, elitist-run, opinion-ignoring self-serving institution as the EU Central Government .. but I also believe that something needs to be done about certain issues that individual countries will find difficult, if not impossible, to combat in isolation - for instance, matters such as climate change, energy dependency on Russia, economic competition from East Asia and international terrorism, to mention a few recently stated in the Observer newspaper.
There has to be a way to unite in which member citizens don't feel their basic democratic rights are being usurped. Hopefully Ireland's refusal to sign the Lisbon treaty and France's and Holland's earlier refusal to adopt the constitution have together sent Brussels a clear message that governments exist to serve the electorate. And that we can then find a way to move forward on that basis.
However, I can't agree that Sarkozy's actions were in any way beneficial to anyone concerned. Expelling 900 Roma from French soil on the grounds that some of them might possibly be criminals is sheer unadulterated rascism.
There has to be a way to unite in which member citizens don't feel their basic democratic rights are being usurped. Hopefully Ireland's refusal to sign the Lisbon treaty and France's and Holland's earlier refusal to adopt the constitution have together sent Brussels a clear message that governments exist to serve the electorate. And that we can then find a way to move forward on that basis.
However, I can't agree that Sarkozy's actions were in any way beneficial to anyone concerned. Expelling 900 Roma from French soil on the grounds that some of them might possibly be criminals is sheer unadulterated rascism.
Bicycles instead of cars and we will improve environment and reduce dependency on Russian fuel in one move!
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it all changed when Barry Madlener from the PVV went to Brussels.
dutch people became more aware and I noticed european politics are more spoken of in the streets.
especially now, when sarkozy and france are under attack due to the Roma affaire. yesterday, a whole news item was broadcasted about Roma in the Netherlands. left wing people are starting to get worried about dutch Roma. it was something that was not on the agenda for a long time.
but since the right wing is gaining ground, and it seems like PVV from Wilders is going to have a great say in the parliament, problems with Roma can now be mentioned.
I follow political forums and I see a lot of the Dutch are behind Sarkozy. they feel a connection with the french because only the netherlands and france said no to a european constitutional law.
pvv and Madlener are in Brussels to try to prevent a too big european influence.
what do you think about all this?
personally, I'm with Sarkozy on this and I think Europe influence is getting too big.