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Dec 4, 2010 8:05 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
paws4
paws4paws4Peterborough, Ontario Canada88 Threads 9 Polls 771 Posts
Everyone is demonizing Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, but not much mention of Pfc., Bradley Manning, the 22 year old US soldier who supplied Assange with all the documents.

Meanwhile the State Dept warned Columbia University students: Do Not discuss WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter, or else....

Is this the freedom that soldiers are supposedly fighting and dying for ?
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Dec 4, 2010 8:27 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
paws4: Everyone is demonizing Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, but not much mention of Pfc., Bradley Manning, the 22 year old US soldier who supplied Assange with all the documents.

Meanwhile the State Dept warned Columbia University students: Do Not discuss WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter, or else....

Is this the freedom that soldiers are supposedly fighting and dying for ?



You are not supposed to mention that! Someone may have leaked it...read what the "Reporters Without Borders" have said about the US Govt. clampdown on people who read Wikileaks...they're next as as a target most likely...wine
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Dec 4, 2010 8:30 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
paws4: Everyone is demonizing Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, but not much mention of Pfc., Bradley Manning, the 22 year old US soldier who supplied Assange with all the documents.

Meanwhile the State Dept warned Columbia University students: Do Not discuss WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter, or else....

Is this the freedom that soldiers are supposedly fighting and dying for ?



Specialist Manning is in custody.....One down, one to go.yay
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Dec 4, 2010 8:32 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
paws4: Everyone is demonizing Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, but not much mention of Pfc., Bradley Manning, the 22 year old US soldier who supplied Assange with all the documents.
Meanwhile the State Dept warned Columbia University students: Do Not discuss WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter, or else....
Is this the freedom that soldiers are supposedly fighting and dying for ?

In my younger days, I was very enthusiastic ...till I didn`t realize how dark the minds of people in power is
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Dec 4, 2010 8:35 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
Boban1: In my younger days, I was very enthusiastic ...till I didn`t realize how dark the minds of people in power is


laugh True for many of us, but some retain a bit of that fire thankfully. wave
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Dec 4, 2010 8:35 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Boban1: In my younger days, I was very enthusiastic ...till I didn`t realize how dark the minds of people in power is


very trueprofessor cool (Operative word, "didn't")
SS
thumbs up
cheers
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Dec 4, 2010 8:41 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Boban1: In my younger days, I was very enthusiastic ...till I didn`t realize how dark the minds of people in power is


sad flower ..... welcome to this very sad reality .....blues... it's about survival and greed at ALL costs !

I think it really started to kick in properly for me in my early 40's, communication and freedom of information over the past 10 years has increased incredibly ( and my time to read ) ..... thank goodness !

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Dec 4, 2010 8:46 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
RDM59: ..... welcome to this very sad reality ........ it's about survival and greed at ALL costs !

I think it really started to kick in properly for me in my early 40's, communication and freedom of information over the past 10 years has increased incredibly ( and my time to read ) ..... thank goodness !



yes..thumbs up not so sad though....CFI wine dancing
SScool
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Dec 5, 2010 4:57 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
RDM59: ..... welcome to this very sad reality ........ it's about survival and greed at ALL costs !

I think it really started to kick in properly for me in my early 40's, communication and freedom of information over the past 10 years has increased incredibly ( and my time to read ) ..... thank goodness !


OH MY Chaplin... and a lovely voice too.

Thanks RD wine
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Dec 5, 2010 6:45 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
The young private is looking at 52 year of confinement at a Military Prison. I suspect he will be a dishonorably discharged and very old private, when he get out at age 75.
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Dec 5, 2010 6:46 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
ttom500: The young private is looking at 52 year of confinement at a Military Prison. I suspect he will be a dishonorably discharged and very old private, when he get out at age 75.
Need to bring back capital punishment into the military.
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Dec 5, 2010 12:26 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
They already have, it's called war.
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Dec 5, 2010 1:04 PM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
gininitaly: They already have, it's called war.
Nep

Once nepolean bonapart said that war is the business of barbarians. If he was still alive today, he surely would have said that war is the business of military complex industrieslaugh
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Dec 6, 2010 12:54 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
mnowsa: Nep

Once nepolean bonapart said that war is the business of barbarians. If he was still alive today, he surely would have said that war is the business of military complex industries


Actually the military is the 'tool' of the industrial and power complex.... America, it's people and ideals are also manipulated and dying or rather being murdered for greed by our own countrymen!

Who are in bed with all the other global hidden powers. We are simply pawns in their game of greed and power at all cost.... doesn't matter how many innocents have to die to keep them in their private jets and fat egos skulking in the shadows like cockroaches doh .

So yeah, I would call them barbarians. Evil times we're living in. sigh
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Dec 6, 2010 3:44 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
gininitaly: Actually the military is the 'tool' of the industrial and power complex.... America, it's people and ideals are also manipulated and dying or rather being murdered for greed by our own countrymen!

Who are in bed with all the other global hidden powers. We are simply pawns in their game of greed and power at all cost.... doesn't matter how many innocents have to die to keep them in their private jets and fat egos skulking in the shadows like cockroaches .

So yeah, I would call them barbarians. Evil times we're living in.


gini, you are far too smart my dear thumbs up wine
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Dec 6, 2010 3:45 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
paws4: Everyone is demonizing Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, but not much mention of Pfc., Bradley Manning, the 22 year old US soldier who supplied Assange with all the documents.

Meanwhile the State Dept warned Columbia University students: Do Not discuss WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter, or else....

Is this the freedom that soldiers are supposedly fighting and dying for ?










A man that resorts to blackmail, has no honor.
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Dec 6, 2010 3:46 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
paws4: Everyone is demonizing Julian Assange of WikiLeaks, but not much mention of Pfc., Bradley Manning, the 22 year old US soldier who supplied Assange with all the documents.

Meanwhile the State Dept warned Columbia University students: Do Not discuss WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter, or else....

Is this the freedom that soldiers are supposedly fighting and dying for ?


the pillars of freedom eh? roll eyes
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Dec 6, 2010 3:54 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
cherryrae
cherryraecherryraesydney, New South Wales Australia390 Posts
JSuburbia: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/05/3084934.htm?section=worldA man that resorts to blackmail, has no honor.


i'm sorry, but where is the blackmail that assange is using


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Dec 6, 2010 4:05 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
cherryrae: i'm sorry, but where is the blackmail that assange is usinghttp://www.facebook.com/notes/senator-bob-brown/senator-bob-brown-on-wikileaks-and-assange/10150096817494974
After 22 years in the military I am well aware of tricks and cover ups used by the incompetant few. Number one Classify the offending document "Top secret" and it is buried for 30 years or more. The only way that information sees the light and have any effect on the guilty person is by a whistleblower brave enough to risk their job or imprisonment....This is not only the military all government departments bury incriminating documents. As always JMO grin cheers
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Dec 6, 2010 4:07 AM CST Always Shoot the Messenger.
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
cherryrae: i'm sorry, but where is the blackmail that assange is usinghttp://www.facebook.com/notes/senator-bob-brown/senator-bob-brown-on-wikileaks-and-assange/10150096817494974


lol facebookdoh
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