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JohnnyT: What a disgusting example of media sensationalist negativity. More tripe about how this budget has hurt the "most vunerable"
A chart on nominal pay rises over a 25 year period was produced by Social Justice Ireland and a Minister grilled about the gaps between Ministers pay and the increase in social welfare over the same period.
Anyone with half a brain - which obviously the Minister didn't have, could work out that in nominal terms over the period in question, ministers pay increased by 50% while welfare increased by 300%.
The people worst affected by the budget are self employed people on a normal income - by that I mean the average industrial wage. Percentage wise the biggest tax increase is there - not that a self employed person was very well off before. Out of everyone in the tax net, a self employed person always payed the highest rate of tax in this ridiculous ultra-socialist, bordering on communist, kip of a country!!!
A chart on nominal pay rises over a 25 year period was produced by Social Justice Ireland and a Minister grilled about the gaps between Ministers pay and the increase in social welfare over the same period.
Anyone with half a brain - which obviously the Minister didn't have, could work out that in nominal terms over the period in question, ministers pay increased by 50% while welfare increased by 300%.
The people worst affected by the budget are self employed people on a normal income - by that I mean the average industrial wage. Percentage wise the biggest tax increase is there - not that a self employed person was very well off before. Out of everyone in the tax net, a self employed person always payed the highest rate of tax in this ridiculous ultra-socialist, bordering on communist, kip of a country!!!
are you self employed perchance
The problem with this country is that there are far too many do gooder vested interests. There was also an article in yesterdays Irish Independent detailing the massive increases in the dole, child benefit and the OAP from 1998-2010 yet people are moaning about minor reductions in the dole when any sensible, rational thinking person knows only too well that current rates of social welfare are completely unsustainable ditto with public sector pay and pensions.
We need a right ring government and quicksmart.
We need a right ring government and quicksmart.
The basic rate of social welfare in 2000 was €98.43 per week by 2009 that had increased to €204.30 per week, any rational person will admit that people who never worked when the economy was doing well will realise that the terminally unemployed gained quite a bit.
I think child benefit for the 1st child was around €53-54 per month by 2008 that had increased to €166 for the first child, welfare went through the roof during the celtic tiger and if the government had only increased social rates in line with inflation then child benefit for the first child would probably only be €90 per month, the dole would be about €135-€140 per week and the OAP would probably only be about €160 per week.
Welfare benefits increased substantially and have proven to be unsustainable.
I think child benefit for the 1st child was around €53-54 per month by 2008 that had increased to €166 for the first child, welfare went through the roof during the celtic tiger and if the government had only increased social rates in line with inflation then child benefit for the first child would probably only be €90 per month, the dole would be about €135-€140 per week and the OAP would probably only be about €160 per week.
Welfare benefits increased substantially and have proven to be unsustainable.
Ross30: My father lost his job in the 1980's and he was unemployed for a few months, then he set up his own business by pulling himself up by the bootstraps.
There's far too much of a poor mouth victimhood culture in council estates in this country. Wallowing in victimhood is very sucessful in Ireland.
Also people should have been putting aside money for a rainy day, also people will need to work harder to save their marriages to stop going into poverty.
Yes I could survive on €150 per week, I'm very capable of rationing, Irish people had to ration in World War 2.
how could you live on 150 a week? also what about those of us who dont make enough money to put some away for a rainy day? and once again why compare now to ww2 or 20 years ago or 50 years ago times have changed and life is different now, what worked then is not gonna work now There's far too much of a poor mouth victimhood culture in council estates in this country. Wallowing in victimhood is very sucessful in Ireland.
Also people should have been putting aside money for a rainy day, also people will need to work harder to save their marriages to stop going into poverty.
Yes I could survive on €150 per week, I'm very capable of rationing, Irish people had to ration in World War 2.
LadyinDublin: some people will never no what its like to go without
WOW!!! WELL SAID.
You can take the girl out of Cabra but you cant take Cabra out of the girl.
Johnny Tit and Ross The Boss...
Spunking moronic statements...
Spunking moronic statements...
robpacciani: Johnny Tit and Ross The Boss...
Spunking moronic statements...
Spunking moronic statements...
Excellent constructive opinion there Rob.....
paphos: First of all I wish you all the very best of luck with your new business venture and I admire your bravery for setting off on this journey at such a precarious financial time...
Secondly, I just want to express how disappointed I always am on here when someone comes on and posts what I found to be a level headed opinion about your own situation, only for you to be exposed to personal attacks and childish name calling by people who disagree with your post.
There is nothing to be gained by attacking each other for differing opinions or experiences.
Secondly, I just want to express how disappointed I always am on here when someone comes on and posts what I found to be a level headed opinion about your own situation, only for you to be exposed to personal attacks and childish name calling by people who disagree with your post.
There is nothing to be gained by attacking each other for differing opinions or experiences.
Thank you Paphos. It is a bit risky and there's a good chance I could end up worse off and in serious debt as a result but it's a risk worth taking.
And yes, I may have a different opinion than many, although I'd like to think I've gained that opinion well through some pretty crazy life experiences, but yes it's a bit of a low blow when people get personal even if they do disagree with my opinions.
Apologies Johnny, a slight over-reaction on my part. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Did not mean to be nasty, hope your business gets off to a flyer bud.
JohnnyT: What a disgusting example of media sensationalist negativity. More tripe about how this budget has hurt the "most vunerable"
A chart on nominal pay rises over a 25 year period was produced by Social Justice Ireland and a Minister grilled about the gaps between Ministers pay and the increase in social welfare over the same period.
Anyone with half a brain - which obviously the Minister didn't have, could work out that in nominal terms over the period in question, ministers pay increased by 50% while welfare increased by 300%.
The people worst affected by the budget are self employed people on a normal income - by that I mean the average industrial wage. Percentage wise the biggest tax increase is there - not that a self employed person was very well off before. Out of everyone in the tax net, a self employed person always payed the highest rate of tax in this ridiculous ultra-socialist, bordering on communist, kip of a country!!!
First i want to say how lucky i am to still have a job, in saying that i dont think anyone has the right to say who has it better or not, everyone is going to find it a struggle to survive in these very hard times and its the old, disabled and young i feel the most sorry, Johnny i wish you the best, but have you thought that many people out there may not have the skills or the power to start a business, be lucky you have.A chart on nominal pay rises over a 25 year period was produced by Social Justice Ireland and a Minister grilled about the gaps between Ministers pay and the increase in social welfare over the same period.
Anyone with half a brain - which obviously the Minister didn't have, could work out that in nominal terms over the period in question, ministers pay increased by 50% while welfare increased by 300%.
The people worst affected by the budget are self employed people on a normal income - by that I mean the average industrial wage. Percentage wise the biggest tax increase is there - not that a self employed person was very well off before. Out of everyone in the tax net, a self employed person always payed the highest rate of tax in this ridiculous ultra-socialist, bordering on communist, kip of a country!!!
robpacciani: hope your business gets off to a flyer bud.
Cheers manTimes like these makes everyone a bit passionate about things. Personally the budget changes sent me on the opening rant cos the tax changes will affect me going back to work. The welfare change doesn't make a difference - I'm so financially screwed 8 euro less a week is a drop in the ocean
JohnnyT: Cheers man
Times like these makes everyone a bit passionate about things. Personally the budget changes sent me on the opening rant cos the tax changes will affect me going back to work. The welfare change doesn't make a difference - I'm so financially screwed 8 euro less a week is a drop in the ocean
Times like these makes everyone a bit passionate about things. Personally the budget changes sent me on the opening rant cos the tax changes will affect me going back to work. The welfare change doesn't make a difference - I'm so financially screwed 8 euro less a week is a drop in the ocean
4.5 million people on the scratcher now and when they deduct the 8 quid from it they will be saving 3.6 million quid a week.....
Annually its 187 million a year, i think thats enough money to be taking off the people that need money the most
mcattack: 4.5 million people on the scratcher now and when they deduct the 8 quid from it they will be saving 3.6 million quid a week.....
Annually its 187 million a year, i think thats enough money to be taking off the people that need money the most
Annually its 187 million a year, i think thats enough money to be taking off the people that need money the most
450,000 you clown not 4.5 million
mcattack: 450,000 on the scratcher now and when they deduct the 8 quid from it they will be saving 3.6 million quid a week.....
Annually its 187 million a year, i think thats enough money to be taking off the people that need money the most
Annually its 187 million a year, i think thats enough money to be taking off the people that need money the most
A lot of those will be young Irish lads and girls living at home and getting paid the minimum so When you consider that one fifth, that is 90,000 people claiming social welfare are non nationals and all of them will be getting rent allowance, it doesn't take a genius to figure out an easy way of saving the country billions..
stanley8m: A lot of those will be young Irish lads and girls living at home and getting paid the minimum so When you consider that one fifth, that is 90,000 people claiming social welfare are non nationals and all of them will be getting rent allowance, it doesn't take a genius to figure out an easy way of saving the country billions..
send them all back home on the banana boat they came over
on
Also regarding the IMF we should be thankful that they haven't forced the government to reduce welfare to UK levels ditto with public sector pay as well. I certainly wouldn't supoort such extreme cuts but the IMF have been known to be a lot more ruthless with other countries then they have been with Ireland.
Altogether now 
But yeah i do deserve stick for my obvious mistake.........but then so do you for being a freaky little strange oddball of a man
Still livin the dream i see
But yeah i do deserve stick for my obvious mistake.........but then so do you for being a freaky little strange oddball of a man
Still livin the dream i see
mcattack: Altogether now
But yeah i do deserve stick for my obvious mistake.........but then so do you for being a freaky little strange oddball of a man
Still livin the dream i see
But yeah i do deserve stick for my obvious mistake.........but then so do you for being a freaky little strange oddball of a man
Still livin the dream i see
are you blind?
Im a woman not a strange oddball of a man, Thats how I would
describe you and you cant count either
paphos: I am self employed too, so in that same non banana boat with you! But if we adopt the send them all home policy, we might be tempting fate that other countries would accept the same intolerant policy and that all our own crowd claiming social welfare or working illegally in other countries might come trundling back....
Then we would be even more up the creek!!
Then we would be even more up the creek!!
Thats what was in my mind.
Hasn't Ireland come a long way when it can talk of sending back foreign nationals.
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A chart on nominal pay rises over a 25 year period was produced by Social Justice Ireland and a Minister grilled about the gaps between Ministers pay and the increase in social welfare over the same period.
Anyone with half a brain - which obviously the Minister didn't have, could work out that in nominal terms over the period in question, ministers pay increased by 50% while welfare increased by 300%.
The people worst affected by the budget are self employed people on a normal income - by that I mean the average industrial wage. Percentage wise the biggest tax increase is there - not that a self employed person was very well off before. Out of everyone in the tax net, a self employed person always payed the highest rate of tax in this ridiculous ultra-socialist, bordering on communist, kip of a country!!!