bipolar disorder also called manic depressive illness (54)
just an opinion ...Lords knows i have enough of them,
this "disorder" is probably the single one most growing diagnosis in the medical field, and unfortunately that claim alone should be setting alarms off the list of symptoms albeit, many of them or one can be attributed to many events/illnesses in our lives.
My thought is many people are to too quick to accept ths diagnosis where as if they where told its cancer or some other death imminent disorder they would not so readily accept it. this is similair of a little child falling and the parents go running everytime sayng poor baby, poor child are you hurt. it's like the power of suggestion. instead of looking for the reasons that they feel like this and changing or correcting it...yep, take a pill and if you get happy then the dosage is right, if you still feel this way next week ...we'll up the dosage.
I may get blasted for this posting, but thats what forums are for if we all agreed on everyting there would be no reason to have a forum.
The profit from medications for this disease are astronomical, and the variety of medications for this "disease" grows daily. (anyone who believes profit is not a factor in this needs a guardian or constant supervision)
yeah I think this is a catch all diagnosis and the atittude of
"the Sky is indeed falling" has become to prevalant in the medical/mental field. Inplace of kissing a boo-boo to make it feel better, we as adults have accepted medications as the kiss we so long for in the days of our youth.
I know this disorder exsist I am only saying its become an overly used diagnosised. To those I've upset, ... take 2 xanex and post to me in the morning...ROFLMAO Another question, how many children are on mind altering medications in the lower grades (1 to 6)of our school? that disorder has the name hyperactivity.... theres another issue that scares the bejesus out of me..teachers of 40 years seniority suddenly all their kids are to active and diruptive.... ding ding anyone else hearing a bell.
this "disorder" is probably the single one most growing diagnosis in the medical field, and unfortunately that claim alone should be setting alarms off the list of symptoms albeit, many of them or one can be attributed to many events/illnesses in our lives.
My thought is many people are to too quick to accept ths diagnosis where as if they where told its cancer or some other death imminent disorder they would not so readily accept it. this is similair of a little child falling and the parents go running everytime sayng poor baby, poor child are you hurt. it's like the power of suggestion. instead of looking for the reasons that they feel like this and changing or correcting it...yep, take a pill and if you get happy then the dosage is right, if you still feel this way next week ...we'll up the dosage.
I may get blasted for this posting, but thats what forums are for if we all agreed on everyting there would be no reason to have a forum.
The profit from medications for this disease are astronomical, and the variety of medications for this "disease" grows daily. (anyone who believes profit is not a factor in this needs a guardian or constant supervision)
yeah I think this is a catch all diagnosis and the atittude of
"the Sky is indeed falling" has become to prevalant in the medical/mental field. Inplace of kissing a boo-boo to make it feel better, we as adults have accepted medications as the kiss we so long for in the days of our youth.
I know this disorder exsist I am only saying its become an overly used diagnosised. To those I've upset, ... take 2 xanex and post to me in the morning...ROFLMAO Another question, how many children are on mind altering medications in the lower grades (1 to 6)of our school? that disorder has the name hyperactivity.... theres another issue that scares the bejesus out of me..teachers of 40 years seniority suddenly all their kids are to active and diruptive.... ding ding anyone else hearing a bell.
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now i can only speak of myself and no one else.i can only speak from my life experience dealing with it.i can only speak from the 6 times i have been put in a mental hospital cause of it.5 times was by the police cause i would not seek treatment on my own.
yes when it comes to anything it does not matter if it is dealing with mental or physical problems.people are being misdiagnose.yes it is true sometimes they are giving the wrong meds or the wrong treatment.
but this does not make the person problems not real,sometimes real things are wrong with them.but things that are wrong with the brain are harded to find out,than things wrong with the body.mankind has yet begin to understand how the brain works and how the brain gets sick.
they only know that it does just like any other part of the body.they are now finding ways to understand the brain and how it works.they are finding out how to treatments problems with the brain.
a psychiatrist can sometimes go on what the person times them,they are not always right,sometimes the person does not know how to explain to them what is wrong with them.
but it is like everything else in this world the key is knowledge to be able to understand something.instead of passing off opinions and passing judgement on someone or something you do not understand.
it took them six years to find out what was wrong with me,that was six years of trial and erro.it was going through six years of hell not knowing what was wrong with me.
but i got lucky i found a psychiatrist who would not give up until he found out.what was wrong with me,but by the time he found out.it was too late the damage has already been done.
he also found out there is no meds nor treatment that will work on me.the only thing they can do for me.when i get suicidal is puting me back into a mental hospital until they think i am no longer.
the key to anything in this life is knowledge,once you gain that knowledge you will know how to deal with something,you will know how to understand someone who is dealing with it
yes when it comes to anything it does not matter if it is dealing with mental or physical problems.people are being misdiagnose.yes it is true sometimes they are giving the wrong meds or the wrong treatment.
but this does not make the person problems not real,sometimes real things are wrong with them.but things that are wrong with the brain are harded to find out,than things wrong with the body.mankind has yet begin to understand how the brain works and how the brain gets sick.
they only know that it does just like any other part of the body.they are now finding ways to understand the brain and how it works.they are finding out how to treatments problems with the brain.
a psychiatrist can sometimes go on what the person times them,they are not always right,sometimes the person does not know how to explain to them what is wrong with them.
but it is like everything else in this world the key is knowledge to be able to understand something.instead of passing off opinions and passing judgement on someone or something you do not understand.
it took them six years to find out what was wrong with me,that was six years of trial and erro.it was going through six years of hell not knowing what was wrong with me.
but i got lucky i found a psychiatrist who would not give up until he found out.what was wrong with me,but by the time he found out.it was too late the damage has already been done.
he also found out there is no meds nor treatment that will work on me.the only thing they can do for me.when i get suicidal is puting me back into a mental hospital until they think i am no longer.
the key to anything in this life is knowledge,once you gain that knowledge you will know how to deal with something,you will know how to understand someone who is dealing with it
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one more time for the road 
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My Aunt Alice is that way and she didn't take her medicine. I found out from my Aunt Cleo about it.
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I have to agree A LITTLE BIT with fireliter, but I do believe that there are degree to this illness...some people have mild symptoms and some have more severe symptoms. As a nurse, it seems that everyone anymore has a diagnosis of bipolar (and gerd is another very popular illness). Bipolar is treated with medications adn yes, pharm. companies are makng a great profits on these medicatins. What scares me is that these antidepressants and other medications are changing the chemicals in peoples brains. Just be careful.
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Could it be a case of bipolar disease even without the "extremes", ie being suicidal v/s thinking you're the president?
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Bi-polar carries a stigma, given by society. If one is diagnosed with cancer, a lot of people say, "I am so sorry to hear that", where as one diagnosed with bi-polar, a lot of people will say "the guy (or girl) is nuts" or "its all in their head, they need to snap out of it". Bi-polar is just as common as cancer or any other illness and needs to be treated as such. Bi-polar can kill, just as easily as cancer.
Just my .02 worth.
Just my .02 worth.
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thinking your a president is feelings a grandeur and more associated with schizophrenia.
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Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit...
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all.
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall.
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall,
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call.
Call Alice
When she was just small.
When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low.
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know.
When logic and proportion
Have fallen softly dead,
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head"...
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One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all.
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall.
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall,
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call.
Call Alice
When she was just small.
When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low.
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know.
When logic and proportion
Have fallen softly dead,
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head"...
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the way bipolar was explain to me is it is a chemical imbalance in the brain.what meds are suppose to do is balance out the person brain.
but it is also true people who has bipolar is not affected by it the same way,nor do they deal with it the same way,nor will the meds work for everyone.what works for one may not work for someone else
nor is bipolar something to play around with nor is it something to joke about.
but it is also true people who has bipolar is not affected by it the same way,nor do they deal with it the same way,nor will the meds work for everyone.what works for one may not work for someone else
nor is bipolar something to play around with nor is it something to joke about.
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Well it is all about balance! ALL!
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Z we are all mental form time to time, some more than others at different times and different ways and it some times comes when we least except it but it happens to all of us to some degree and anyone who denies that is the most mental of all..
The brain is one of the last unexplored regions of our planet and maybe the greatest miracles of the entire universe.
I have had to deal with this for 15 years. My first wife and mother to my two daughters was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder, this is why I have custody of my daughters, Not because I am some great guy or she is a bad mother, it is what is and best for our children. I could have run away, as far too many dads do but that’s not me.
We, the girls and I have learned to deal with it in the healthiest of ways. My oldest was the toughest but as she has gotten older she understands that this is not her mother wish or fault in any way. With her coming to that understanding it is brings hope for my daughter and her mother and where there is hope, there is love. When she needs to go in to the hospital it is no longer seen as a bad thing. It is now a place where their mom gets better and that is all that is important.
When it all comes down to it the brain and all its workings is nothing less than miracles but the incredible part of it all is LOVE.
Z, you my friend have so much love in you in it’s....its....its....it can’t be put in to words. You words reach out and share that love in a ways that is so very special that you yourself, that you my friend are nothing less than a miracle yourself.
The brain is one of the last unexplored regions of our planet and maybe the greatest miracles of the entire universe.
I have had to deal with this for 15 years. My first wife and mother to my two daughters was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder, this is why I have custody of my daughters, Not because I am some great guy or she is a bad mother, it is what is and best for our children. I could have run away, as far too many dads do but that’s not me.
We, the girls and I have learned to deal with it in the healthiest of ways. My oldest was the toughest but as she has gotten older she understands that this is not her mother wish or fault in any way. With her coming to that understanding it is brings hope for my daughter and her mother and where there is hope, there is love. When she needs to go in to the hospital it is no longer seen as a bad thing. It is now a place where their mom gets better and that is all that is important.
When it all comes down to it the brain and all its workings is nothing less than miracles but the incredible part of it all is LOVE.
Z, you my friend have so much love in you in it’s....its....its....it can’t be put in to words. You words reach out and share that love in a ways that is so very special that you yourself, that you my friend are nothing less than a miracle yourself.
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"My quastion is how can I convince him to get help or what is good way to make him realize that there is some illnes that he should be checking himself out,"
the sad thing is you cannot make someone do something they do not want to do.they have to be willing to do it out of their own free will.sometimes the best thing to do is tell them you are there for them,than leave it alone,sometimes the best thing to do is say nothing at all.just let them know you are there are them
if you keep bugging someone about something,all you going to do is make things worst and not better.sometimes you will push them away from you.instead of pulling them closer to you
the choices and decisions on how we want to live our lives,is up to use to make.we will not want someone else trying to tell us how to live our lives.sometimes the best thing to do is nothing at all.but to be there for them without saying a word,by you being there is the best thing you can do
evening counselors,doctors nor psychiatrist can make someone seek help,nor take their meds.they have learn that they have to wait for the person to want to get help.they have to wait for the person to want to be help,the have to wait for the person to do what ever it takes to get better.sometimes it takes someone to hit rock bottom before they want to get help
the same thing sometimes when they hit rock bottom it is too late for them to get help.i know it is hard to stand by and watch your friend going through what they are going through.i know it is hard to have to want to help them,but they will not let you help them
but sometimes it is best to do nothing at all,than it is to keep pushing it and lose their friendship.which sometimes does happen.sometimes you just have to say i am here for you and leave it at that
what you have to understand some people do not want to admit
they have something wrong.they do not want to admit they need help
for some people the hardest thing for them to do is to ask for help
to have to depend on someone else for help
but some people are afraid to ask for help
some people do not know how to ask for help
for some people it is hard to admit something is wrong
but there is nothing anyone can do until your friend
is willing to admit something is wrong
until he comes to the point where he is ready to deal with it
until he is ready to ask for help
until he is ready to do what they tell him to do
sometimes the hardest thing in life is not to love someone
but to be there for them no matter what tomorrow brings
the sad thing is you cannot make someone do something they do not want to do.they have to be willing to do it out of their own free will.sometimes the best thing to do is tell them you are there for them,than leave it alone,sometimes the best thing to do is say nothing at all.just let them know you are there are them
if you keep bugging someone about something,all you going to do is make things worst and not better.sometimes you will push them away from you.instead of pulling them closer to you
the choices and decisions on how we want to live our lives,is up to use to make.we will not want someone else trying to tell us how to live our lives.sometimes the best thing to do is nothing at all.but to be there for them without saying a word,by you being there is the best thing you can do
evening counselors,doctors nor psychiatrist can make someone seek help,nor take their meds.they have learn that they have to wait for the person to want to get help.they have to wait for the person to want to be help,the have to wait for the person to do what ever it takes to get better.sometimes it takes someone to hit rock bottom before they want to get help
the same thing sometimes when they hit rock bottom it is too late for them to get help.i know it is hard to stand by and watch your friend going through what they are going through.i know it is hard to have to want to help them,but they will not let you help them
but sometimes it is best to do nothing at all,than it is to keep pushing it and lose their friendship.which sometimes does happen.sometimes you just have to say i am here for you and leave it at that
what you have to understand some people do not want to admit
they have something wrong.they do not want to admit they need help
for some people the hardest thing for them to do is to ask for help
to have to depend on someone else for help
but some people are afraid to ask for help
some people do not know how to ask for help
for some people it is hard to admit something is wrong
but there is nothing anyone can do until your friend
is willing to admit something is wrong
until he comes to the point where he is ready to deal with it
until he is ready to ask for help
until he is ready to do what they tell him to do
sometimes the hardest thing in life is not to love someone
but to be there for them no matter what tomorrow brings
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you the man 
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This illness does come in different degrees for different people. They have Bipolar I, II and III.
The doctors that I know, are very skeptical about diagnosing Bipolar. That's why it usually takes 6-10 years to get the proper diagnosis and care. It took 8 years before my daughter was properly diagnosed with bipolar. As a child it was changed from depression to ADHD,to oppositional behavior, etc. .When she tried the medication for ADHD it did not work, it did the opposite and made her more hyper..(I stopped the meds) Then they put her on meds that changed her (we stopped that)...Finally when she was 17 she was diagnosed with Bipolar (don't remember if it was I, or II...I have been researching for years and her actions and symptoms fit this diagnosis. The only reason that I did not think she had bipolar was due to her not fitting the anger episodes. But it was explained to me that all symptoms are different for each person...At this time she functions pretty fairly without medication. She prefers not to take the medication at this time and I support her decision. As long as she is in counseling and is willing to look at her behavior, and see's it for what it is, I am okay with it at this point..
The doctors that I know, are very skeptical about diagnosing Bipolar. That's why it usually takes 6-10 years to get the proper diagnosis and care. It took 8 years before my daughter was properly diagnosed with bipolar. As a child it was changed from depression to ADHD,to oppositional behavior, etc. .When she tried the medication for ADHD it did not work, it did the opposite and made her more hyper..(I stopped the meds) Then they put her on meds that changed her (we stopped that)...Finally when she was 17 she was diagnosed with Bipolar (don't remember if it was I, or II...I have been researching for years and her actions and symptoms fit this diagnosis. The only reason that I did not think she had bipolar was due to her not fitting the anger episodes. But it was explained to me that all symptoms are different for each person...At this time she functions pretty fairly without medication. She prefers not to take the medication at this time and I support her decision. As long as she is in counseling and is willing to look at her behavior, and see's it for what it is, I am okay with it at this point..
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I was married to a man with this disease. I accepted many emotional aspects of this disease;
such as,
moon struck
bemused
narcisism
never slept
rage
Not all the time but alot .
the hardest thing to live with was "his" profound knowledge.
such as God like superior thoughts and selfrighteousness that how others should be and act.
It finally did our marriage in.
Ps. We had alot of good times as well.
but towards the last 3 yrs. of marriage I couldn't live with him "not" trying to work on his disease.
He didn't want to do it together or seperate.
My 2 children paid a dear price for the disease he has. Is it his fault no way. however it was his responsibility to get coping skills. Which he did not until it was to late in our marriage. i tried sought counciling, of all avenues. He wouldn't have nothing to do with it.
Who are ten yrs. apart and still have a tough time with his God like tendencies and needing so much attention, from those thoughts.
Of what I noted above.
such as,
moon struck
bemused
narcisism
never slept
rage
Not all the time but alot .
the hardest thing to live with was "his" profound knowledge.
such as God like superior thoughts and selfrighteousness that how others should be and act.
It finally did our marriage in.
Ps. We had alot of good times as well.
but towards the last 3 yrs. of marriage I couldn't live with him "not" trying to work on his disease.
He didn't want to do it together or seperate.
My 2 children paid a dear price for the disease he has. Is it his fault no way. however it was his responsibility to get coping skills. Which he did not until it was to late in our marriage. i tried sought counciling, of all avenues. He wouldn't have nothing to do with it.
Who are ten yrs. apart and still have a tough time with his God like tendencies and needing so much attention, from those thoughts.
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My kids are 10 yrs apart. oops
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Oh ya, our marriage lasted 14 yrs.
Almost everyone gets a label it's all in how you deal with it.
jmo
Almost everyone gets a label it's all in how you deal with it.
jmo
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It may be helpful to think of the various mood states in bipolar disorder as a spectrum or continuous range. At one end is severe depression, above which is moderate depression and then mild low mood, which many people call "the blues" when it is short-lived but is termed "dysthymia" when it is chronic. Then there is normal or balanced mood, above which comes hypomania (mild to moderate mania), and then severe mania.