arab reform (20)

Feb 4, 2011 4:23 AM CST arab reform
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
arab reform could pose big risks for u.s, analysts warn. there is deep western suspicion about the main egyptian opposition group, the muslim brother_hood , particularly with regard to the islamist movement"s dim view of israel. leading opposition figure mohamed elbaradei sought on wednesdayto ease western fears that a new egypt would turn against israel and the us
Feb 4, 2011 4:40 AM CST arab reform
Lillym
LillymLillymSliema, Majjistral Malta33 Threads 3,391 Posts
The Muslim Brotherhood have declared no interest in ruling the country. Elbaradei is Egypt's best choice....
Feb 4, 2011 5:00 AM CST arab reform
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
Lillym: The Muslim Brotherhood have declared no interest in ruling the country. Elbaradei is Egypt's best choice....
dont be so sure about that my friend
Feb 4, 2011 6:26 AM CST arab reform
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Elbaradei is also bad for Israel, and what is bad for Israel will be bad for the US.
Feb 4, 2011 9:44 AM CST arab reform
Lillym: The Muslim Brotherhood have declared no interest in ruling the country. Elbaradei is Egypt's best choice....
I don't think the MB has changed it's Spots!
Would be contrary to their Interpretation of the Koran!
El Baraday is just another Kerensky!
A Talking Head!
Feb 4, 2011 10:06 AM CST arab reform
Lillym
LillymLillymSliema, Majjistral Malta33 Threads 3,391 Posts
Conrad73: I don't think the MB has changed it's Spots!
Would be contrary to their Interpretation of the Koran!
El Baraday is just another Kerensky!
A Talking Head!


Its a mess, whoever takes power!! Nettanyahu must be a tit bit worried don't you think? uh oh
Feb 4, 2011 10:24 AM CST arab reform
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
Wow_Factor: Elbaradei is also bad for Israel, and what is bad for Israel will be bad for the US.
agree with you
Feb 4, 2011 11:38 AM CST arab reform
Lillym: Its a mess, whoever takes power!! Nettanyahu must be a tit bit worried don't you think?
I'd be worried in his place too!uh oh
They don't need another Hamas-like Regime on their border!
Wonder what a Regime like that would do to the unhampered Shipping through the Canal?
Feb 4, 2011 1:57 PM CST arab reform
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Lillym: Its a mess, Nettanyahu must be a tit bit worried don't you think?


I know, he supports the Wirral Wanderers too and he's waiting for King Kenny's mini relovultion to...Do a Grand Ol' Duke of York...(kinda march them up & down)...laugh
Feb 4, 2011 11:34 PM CST arab reform
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Wow_Factor: Elbaradei is also bad for Israel, and what is bad for Israel will be bad for the US.


dunno what has Israel ever done for us ... and what have they got to do with it anyway perhaps it will get them off their butts and ensure peace with the Palestinians
Feb 5, 2011 1:51 AM CST arab reform
CuspofMagic: what has Israel ever done for us ... and what have they got to do with it anyway perhaps it will get them off their butts and ensure peace with the Palestinians
Or the Palestinians get off their Butts!
Why not 62 years ago!
They could have gotten everything what they are clamoring for today!
Would be funny if it weren't so sad!
They ought to have listened to themselves,instead of those Idiot Arab-Leaders,who had their own agenda!
Feb 5, 2011 7:30 PM CST arab reform
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Conrad73: Or the Palestinians get off their Butts!
Why not 62 years ago!
They could have gotten everything what they are clamoring for today!
Would be funny if it weren't so sad!
They ought to have listened to themselves,instead of those Idiot Arab-Leaders,who had their own agenda!
thumbs up
Feb 7, 2011 2:13 AM CST arab reform
Lillym
LillymLillymSliema, Majjistral Malta33 Threads 3,391 Posts
Conrad73: Or the Palestinians get off their Butts!
Why not 62 years ago!
They could have gotten everything what they are clamoring for today!
Would be funny if it weren't so sad!
They ought to have listened to themselves,instead of those Idiot Arab-Leaders,who had their own agenda!


You are sooo right....
Feb 13, 2011 7:49 AM CST arab reform
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Conrad73: Or the Palestinians get off their Butts!
Why not 62 years ago!


They had guns pointed at them...kicked out of their family homes and the west let it happen..They had no choice.

Conrad73: They could have gotten everything what they are clamoring for today!


Such as their land back....homes returned and the exiles allowed to return...(I doubt it)


Conrad73: Would be funny if it weren't so sad!


Can't argue there

Conrad73: They ought to have listened to themselves,instead of those Idiot Arab-Leaders,who had their own agenda!


Why didn't the west listen to them??? Maybe they had a bigger agenda.....
Feb 13, 2011 8:04 AM CST arab reform
Phoenix: They had guns pointed at them...kicked out of their family homes and the west let it happen..They had no choice.
Such as their land back....homes returned and the exiles allowed to return...(I doubt it)

Can't argue there
Why didn't the west listen to them??? Maybe they had a bigger agenda.....


Okay I have problems with this...

First of the Israeli's in 1948 asked the Palestines to stay... but the Grand Mufti in Jerusalem stated all Palestinians should leave Palestine... because the Israeli's would kill them etc etc etc... In Haifa the troops where asking them to stay indoors for their own safety as Syrian bombs where falling...

Also one thing that no-one mentions is the 400,000 Jews who where kicked out of the surrounding Arab countries after 1948 that Israel simply got on with by bringing those people into what is now Israel, at a time when Israel as a state could not afford to do so.

It would have taken 1 days petro dollars of the Arab Nations in 1948 to have resolved the Palestinian issue of them living in UN camps... Even the Arab Countries near them Eygpt Jordan Lebanon etc want nothing to do with them...

In the 1990's the Israeli's offered Arafat the chance by stating that the Israeli Government would accept 95% of the demands the Palestinians where requesting... and to discuss the other 5% in an open forum to find a way to settle that 5%... Arafat threw this offer back at the Israeli's...

So it's not all the Israeli's fault the Israeli's have tried and been kicked in the teeth as well as the Palestinians...

Also the Arab phrase Insha'Allah As God Wills is pretty good here...

The Arab's have tried on numerous occasions to defeat Israel... maybe after the 3rd or 4th time round of Israel kicking their collective butts... they should listen to their preaching...

1948
1967
War of Attrition
Yom Kippur 1973

Don't get me wrong I am not against the Palestinians per se its just the Lunatics running Hezbollah etc that do my nut in... Yes there have been atrocities on both sides but will people please stop slamming it all on Israel as if its their fault...
Feb 13, 2011 8:45 AM CST arab reform
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Slarti: Okay I have problems with this...

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Me too..Slarti...I go to your house, point a gun at you and tell you to leave or you're dead....

Thats what happened..Dress it up as you want..
Feb 13, 2011 12:36 PM CST arab reform
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Phoenix: Me too..Slarti...I go to your house, point a gun at you and tell you to leave or you're dead....

Thats what happened..Dress it up as you want..
All I DO know about the Israeli/Palestinian thingy is that the Israelis took all the nice land that had the Palestinian water wells, and sort-of expected the Palestinians to go live in waterless arid land.......
Feb 13, 2011 2:31 PM CST arab reform
smoky: All I DO know about the Israeli/Palestinian thingy is that the Israelis took all the nice land that had the Palestinian water wells, and sort-of expected the Palestinians to go live in waterless arid land.......
Like the NEGEV Desert?


Feb 14, 2011 11:44 AM CST arab reform
witboy
witboywitboyGifhorn, Lower Saxony Germany92 Posts
Wow_Factor: Elbaradei is also bad for Israel, and what is bad for Israel will be bad for the US.

That is bona fide nonsense, my dear!
Israel has often enough shown that it cares little for US interests in the region.
So all America would need is to grow enough backbone to return the favour.
Only that will, sadly enough, not happen at this time.

But one can always hope for a better future :-)
Feb 14, 2011 11:47 AM CST arab reform
witboy
witboywitboyGifhorn, Lower Saxony Germany92 Posts
smoky: All I DO know about the Israeli/Palestinian thingy is that the Israelis took all the nice land that had the Palestinian water wells, and sort-of expected the Palestinians to go live in waterless arid land.......

If the Jews can make a garden out of a desert, then why is all the Arabs manage to accomplish is doing it the other way around?
Arabia used to be the greatest, when it was also the most tolerant.
Time to recover the true greatness of Arabia - less Hamass and more Hamocks! :-)
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