eumundibabe: i DONT BELIEVE IN gOD...who else doesnt?
I believe in God although I havent witnessed too many miracles lately. If you havent seen him in your neighbourhood, perhaps you should walk into a church or something.
eumundibabe: i am very happy with my life without him thank you....i dont believe in club religion sorry....the universe is my belief...its all about science to me
Why do you seek the spiritual in the realm of the physical? Can the deep sea fish rightly state elephants don't exist because he could not find him in his neighbourhood? If there is a creator, He should not be found in creation. Just like you don't look for the potter in the pot.
eumundibabe: yes we are all intitled to our view...certainly i havent found him any where in my neighbourhood
Why do you seek the spiritual in the realm of the physical? Can the deep sea fish rightly state elephants don't exist because he could not find him in his neighbourhood? If there is a creator, He should not be found in creation. Just like you don't look for the potter in the pot.
eumundibabe: i am very happy with my life without him thank you....i dont believe in club religion sorry....the universe is my belief...its all about science to me
And how does science disprove God? Now you are talking to an ex-scientist and ex-atheist here.
Science only studies the physical world. It has absolutely no attempt to describe the spiritual realms.
Malbarido: NO i don't believe in things that i cannot see.My question is: ""GOD" made man or man made "GOD""?
So you don't believe in air, electrons, radio waves, emotions or heat energy.
Without air we would suffocate. Without electron flow you wouldn't be reading this. Without radio waves, there would be no EM communication. Without emotions we would be robots. Without heat energy we would freeze.
Every day we put our trust and expectations in things we can't see. Why do we judge our gods by a higher standard? Fear I suspect....but we can't see that either.
Malbarido: NO i don't believe in things that i cannot see. My question is: ""GOD" made man or man made "GOD""?
I am convinced that everyone has the right to believe whatever they wish. But nobody can categorically state that there is no God without having proof. Those who believe in God cannot categorically state that there is a God, only state that they believe in Him.
Godsgift: So you don't believe in air, electrons, radio waves, emotions or heat energy.
Without air we would suffocate. Without electron flow you wouldn't be reading this. Without radio waves, there would be no EM communication. Without emotions we would be robots. Without heat energy we would freeze.Every day we put our trust and expectations in things we can't see. Why do we judge our gods by a higher standard? Fear I suspect....but we can't see that either.
The things that you are talking about are prooven that they exist, but "GOD" is like a nice dream to remember.
Malbarido: The things that you are talking about are prooven that they exist, but "GOD" is like a nice dream to remember.
You said you don't believe in things you cannot see. I simply replied to that. Do things only start to exist when man discovers it? Was America just a big black hole before Columbus? There have been radio waves since the dawn of time, and magnetism and gravity. Before Newton discovered gravity, did everything float?
So just because we haven't experienced something, it doesn't prove non existance. The rational belief for an open mind would be agnosticism. You will never learn anything due to your closed mind and reliance on knowledge pre authenticated by others.
Godsgift: You said you don't believe in things you cannot see. I simply replied to that. Do things only start to exist when man discovers it? Was America just a big black hole before Columbus? There have been radio waves since the dawn of time, and magnetism and gravity. Before Newton discovered gravity, did everything float?
So just because we haven't experienced something, it doesn't prove non existance. The rational belief for an open mind would be agnosticism. You will never learn anything due to your closed mind and reliance on knowledge pre authenticated by others.
What are you trying to say now that this special creature who has a special place in the sky is playing hide and seek with us? Give me a break man.
Malbarido: What are you trying to say now that this special creature who has a special place in the sky is playing hide and seek with us? Give me a break man.
I never said anything of the sort. You have pre conceived notions of what forces are and aren't in play and a childhood vision of God which someone has forced on you.That's the closed mind that keeps us in ignorance!
As I said earlier, it may not be a Christian God but you will learn nothing till you become teachable and life will teach you if you allow it.
The least spiritual people I know have strong religeous convictions. They are unable or unwilling to think outside of the dogma and cannot open their minds.
Oh...and without the sun up in the sky, the regulation of the moon and the protective qualities of the earth, we would all be dead since you mentioned it. But of course, all that happened by cosmic accident.
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