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Apr 16, 2011 10:35 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
NATURAL PLANT REMEDIES ABOUT TO BE BANNED (at the end of this month) IN EUROPE


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Apr 16, 2011 10:42 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
Well, i can understand that to a certain extent.In the hands of properly qualified people,i have no doubt that certain remedies can be benificial.However,like many things now,many unqualified people,or those who attend quick courses,or get the imformation of the internet,suddenly become "experts".It has happened in mny "trades".
When dealing with health,we would not let an unqualified doctor,knowingly,practice.Or a dentist ect.
Sadly,those genuine ones will suffer because of the others.
Perhaps,in the future,a proper qualification will be adopted,and policed by the medical watchdogs,to ensure safety.bouquet
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Apr 16, 2011 10:44 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
EagleWoman: NATURAL PLANT REMEDIES ABOUT TO BE BANNED (at the end of this month) IN EUROPEhttp://www.savenaturalhealth.eu/


We have it here in the US, it's called the FDA, the gov. regulates everything we have access too and sometimes, that's not necessarily a bad thing. What particular ones are you concerned with?
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Apr 16, 2011 10:45 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
EagleWoman: NATURAL PLANT REMEDIES ABOUT TO BE BANNED (at the end of this month) IN EUROPEhttp://www.savenaturalhealth.eu/



thumbs up This also would go nicely in STressfree's thread ...

filching now ... wine bouquet
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Apr 16, 2011 11:01 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
time4fun4u: Well, i can understand that to a certain extent.In the hands of properly qualified people,i have no doubt that certain remedies can be benificial.However,like many things now,many unqualified people,or those who attend quick courses,or get the imformation of the internet,suddenly become "experts".It has happened in mny "trades".
When dealing with health,we would not let an unqualified doctor,knowingly,practice.Or a dentist ect.
Sadly,those genuine ones will suffer because of the others.
Perhaps,in the future,a proper qualification will be adopted,and policed by the medical watchdogs,to ensure safety.


This is not about protecting people, it's about protecting the revenues of pharmaceutical corporations ...

If you listen to the WHOLE video you will hear that for instance under the same sort of directive people in Canada can't even grow ROSEMARY in their own gardens ...

Making sure that unqualified "experts" don't harm people is one thing ... Complete controle of what people can grow for themselves is another ...

Why should medicinal plants that have been used for 1000's of years suddenly become harmful?
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Apr 16, 2011 11:04 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
BB_snickers: This also would go nicely in STressfree's thread ...

filching now ...


thumbs up

Sorry peeps going out now but will be back later

wave
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Apr 16, 2011 11:24 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
EagleWoman: This is not about protecting people, it's about protecting the revenues of pharmaceutical corporations ...

If you listen to the WHOLE video you will hear that for instance under the same sort of directive people in Canada can't even grow ROSEMARY in their own gardens ...

Making sure that unqualified "experts" don't harm people is one thing ... Complete controle of what people can grow for themselves is another ...

Why should medicinal plants that have been used for 1000's of years suddenly become harmful?
Well, my knowledge on this is limited,and therefor for me to comment any further would be foolish.bouquet
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Apr 16, 2011 11:40 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
EagleWoman: NATURAL PLANT REMEDIES ABOUT TO BE BANNED (at the end of this month) IN EUROPEhttp://www.savenaturalhealth.eu/



More info from the net.

Under the new law traditional products must be licensed or prescribed by a registered herbal practitioner.
The directive was introduced due to growing safety concerns about the side effects of many alternative medicines.
The UK Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency has issued over 10 safety alerts in the past two years.
The banned herb Aristolochia caused kidney failure in more than 100 women after they were given it at a slimming clinic in Belgium. Meanwhile black cohosh used by many menopausal women has been linked to liver damage.
The MHRA said it had received applications for licenses for 166 herbal products, of which 78 had been granted. Sir Alasdair Breckenridge, chairman of the MHRA, said a register of herbalists was essential. “Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it is safe,” he said. “It is terribly important to have responsible people who have undergone training prescribing these products.”
According to the Alliance for Natural Health (ANH), which represents herbal practitioners, not a single product used in traditional Chinese medicine or ayurvedic medicine has been licensed. In Europe, around 200 products from 27 plant species have been licensed but there are 300 plant species in use in the UK alone.





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Apr 16, 2011 11:44 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
MovinFWD
MovinFWDMovinFWDDaytona Beach, Florida USA36 Threads 3,234 Posts
EagleWoman: NATURAL PLANT REMEDIES ABOUT TO BE BANNED (at the end of this month) IN EUROPEhttp://www.savenaturalhealth.eu/
I have healing hands that when placed on the right parts of your body can make you feel much bettergrin
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Apr 16, 2011 11:53 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
EagleWoman: This is not about protecting people, it's about protecting the revenues of pharmaceutical corporations ...

If you listen to the WHOLE video you will hear that for instance under the same sort of directive people in Canada can't even grow ROSEMARY in their own gardens ...

Making sure that unqualified "experts" don't harm people is one thing ... Complete controle of what people can grow for themselves is another ...

Why should medicinal plants that have been used for 1000's of years suddenly become harmful?



I’m not saying the above is false and maybe we’re not talking about the same plant but I did find this on the net:

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Apr 16, 2011 11:59 AM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
MovinFWD: I have healing hands that when placed on the right parts of your body can make you feel much better



hug teddybear bouquet
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Apr 16, 2011 12:01 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
EagleWoman: This is not about protecting people, it's about protecting the revenues of pharmaceutical corporations ...

If you listen to the WHOLE video you will hear that for instance under the same sort of directive people in Canada can't even grow ROSEMARY in their own gardens ...

Making sure that unqualified "experts" don't harm people is one thing ... Complete controle of what people can grow for themselves is another ...

Why should medicinal plants that have been used for 1000's of years suddenly become harmful?
What a load of horsedroppings . I use rosemay all the time, espcialy in chicken dishes . I will be able to use and grow it anytime and anywhere I like . Just don't try to tell me that it is going to " cure " my cancer or keep me from aging or any such bull as that . I expect to have the medicines I might need be proven to do what they say they do . Why not let all the other ones do the same . Also the lie about no more plant medacine is so stupid it actually is laughable . Most of the medacines we have now are derived from plants, and all the traditional ones have been studied for any and all medical properties . Wether it's extracted from natural sources or synthesized , they have been closly examined . I've heard some of the wild clames made for these " natural " remadies , followed by the tired old rant about the big pharmacutical companies surpressing them . Even if they are the evil money grabbing conglomeraits they are made out to be . Wouldn't you think that a fortune could be made from any extract that actually worked . Doesn't anybody think any more ? . . . . .frustrated
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Apr 16, 2011 12:02 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
EagleWoman: This is not about protecting people, it's about protecting the revenues of pharmaceutical corporations ...

If you listen to the WHOLE video you will hear that for instance under the same sort of directive people in Canada can't even grow ROSEMARY in their own gardens ...

Making sure that unqualified "experts" don't harm people is one thing ... Complete controle of what people can grow for themselves is another ...

Why should medicinal plants that have been used for 1000's of years suddenly become harmful?


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Apr 16, 2011 12:04 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
EagleWoman: NATURAL PLANT REMEDIES ABOUT TO BE BANNED (at the end of this month) IN EUROPEhttp://www.savenaturalhealth.eu/
Sure they banned "Grass/Marijana years ago, and half of europe still smokes it..... Street dealers will be pushing "St John's Wort" at exhorbitant pricesrolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 16, 2011 12:04 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
time4fun4u: Well, i can understand that to a certain extent.In the hands of properly qualified people,i have no doubt that certain remedies can be benificial.However,like many things now,many unqualified people,or those who attend quick courses,or get the imformation of the internet,suddenly become "experts".It has happened in mny "trades".
When dealing with health,we would not let an unqualified doctor,knowingly,practice.Or a dentist ect.
Sadly,those genuine ones will suffer because of the others.
Perhaps,in the future,a proper qualification will be adopted,and policed by the medical watchdogs,to ensure safety.


Most natural remedies are harmless or have a negligible risk of minor side effects whereas many prescribed drugs have serious side effects and don't always do what it says on the tin.
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Apr 16, 2011 12:05 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
blarneykite: Sure they banned "Grass/Marijana years ago, and half of europe still smokes it..... Street dealers will be pushing "St John's Wort" at exhorbitant prices


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up
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Apr 16, 2011 12:06 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Well, Ive always grown Rosemary in my garden...they can go ahead and bust me, but chances are they will get my pot plants first grin
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Apr 16, 2011 12:08 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
venusenvy: Well, Ive always grown Rosemary in my garden...they can go ahead and bust me, but chances are they will get my pot plants first
Mine too V... next the Thought police will be introduced... Bloody nanny state...


Very fine grass the last time I was there... Actually Tooooo fine
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Apr 16, 2011 12:09 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
This post is a perfect example of how high level political corruption works.
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Apr 16, 2011 12:12 PM CST FORBIDDEN HEALING
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
Conorco: This post is a perfect example of how high level political corruption works.
Well the pharma Co's have tried to synthasise THC and the other active ingredients in Grass, but can't patent them as they are naturally occuring.... So ban it despite all the mant medical used along with the obvious social benefitslaugh
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