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Aug 17, 2011 10:25 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
Are you a Social Snob? Do you pick your friends and dates based on their levels of education, their occupation, the type of car they drive, the area they live in? Do you even know you do it?


Does it matter to you what your friends do for a living and where they went to school? Do you find that your social groups, if you have them, tend to be with similar "types" of people? Would you prefer not to date someone who has no college degree because you dont feel you would have anything in common with them?

In these days of chronic recession, it is amazing how many of us are employed in positions of "lesser" social status that normal; many are forced to do what they have to to pay the bills, so it is increasingly difficult to guage who has the better education - the local mailman or the guy in City Hall.

Robert Green Ingersoll once said:

"“It is a thousand times better to have common sense without education than to have education without common sense.”

How true.

Additionally credit card debt is out of control: and many sufferers of credit card debt are in that situation because of "trying to keep up with the Jonses'" - buying things that will give the impression of wealth and status, like nice clothes, a nice car outside, etc etc.

In a so-called "Classless Society", after listening to others, reading articles and forming my own opinions, it appears to me that snobbery still runs riot in the world, whether it be toward lesser-educated, lesser-financially well off or those who live on "The Wrong Side of the Tracks".

Any thoughts?
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Aug 17, 2011 10:26 AM CST Social Snobbery
Nope.
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Aug 17, 2011 10:36 AM CST Social Snobbery
outdoorgirlsun
outdoorgirlsunoutdoorgirlsunSapulpa, Oklahoma USA5 Threads 1,085 Posts
Must be in your area, because it sure isn't where I live. Besides, if you do happen to run into a person such as a snob, no one really gives a Hoot!
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Aug 17, 2011 10:36 AM CST Social Snobbery
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
I'm an inverted snob.

I don't tend to care how educated, rich or succesful one is. However, anybody who was privately educated or has had some sort of gilded youth I tend to avoid as if they were a plague - not with every person mind you, but I generally find them nauseating, unserious and unwise to the World.

More than likely I see things this way because my favourite people are generally the aspirational Working Class. The only "elite" in my opinion can be those who tore themselves from nothing.
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Aug 17, 2011 10:38 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
outdoorgirlsun: Must be in your area, because it sure isn't where I live. Besides, if you do happen to run into a person such as a snob, no one really gives a Hoot!


It has nothing to do with the area I live it; it is an observation in general, from what I have read on the forums, from what I see on TV, from what I have heard and seen in all the countries I have lived in.

wine
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Aug 17, 2011 10:38 AM CST Social Snobbery
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Ho Bo,hope you are feeling a lot better now,post op etc.hug

My friends are from all walks of life,but funnily enough I find the rich ones far more accommodating than my middle class friends.

I guess those that have aquired wealth as against those born in to it,have a different take on life and are far more judgemental.j.m.o.
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Aug 17, 2011 10:39 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
TrueBlue1986: I'm an inverted snob.

I don't tend to care how educated, rich or succesful one is. However, anybody who was privately educated or has had some sort of gilded youth I tend to avoid as if they were a plague - not with every person mind you, but I generally find them nauseating, unserious and unwise to the World.

More than likely I see things this way because my favourite people are generally the aspirational Working Class. The only "elite" in my opinion can be those who tore themselves from nothing.


Hi True..

Do you remember Harry Enfield's character - Tim, Nice But Dim..doh rolling on the floor laughing

He reminded me of so many people who were Oxbridge Grads, but dumber than a box of rocks..laugh wave
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Aug 17, 2011 10:41 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
bestbefore: Ho Bo,hope you are feeling a lot better now,post op etc.

My friends are from all walks of life,but funnily enough I find the rich ones far more accommodating than my middle class friends.

I guess those that have aquired wealth as against those born in to it,have a different take on life and are far more judgemental.j.m.o.


Hi B..hug Yes, feeling much better now, thank you.thumbs up

Interesting point: Acquired wealth -v- New Money..hmmm bouquet
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Aug 17, 2011 10:44 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia: Are you a Social Snob? Do you pick your friends and dates based on their levels of education, their occupation, the type of car they drive, the area they live in? Do you even know you do it?Does it matter to you what your friends do for a living and where they went to school? Do you find that your social groups, if you have them, tend to be with similar "types" of people? Would you prefer not to date someone who has no college degree because you dont feel you would have anything in common with them?

In these days of chronic recession, it is amazing how many of us are employed in positions of "lesser" social status that normal; many are forced to do what they have to to pay the bills, so it is increasingly difficult to guage who has the better education - the local mailman or the guy in City Hall.

Robert Green Ingersoll once said:

"“It is a thousand times better to have common sense without education than to have education without common sense.”

How true.

Additionally credit card debt is out of control: and many sufferers of credit card debt are in that situation because of "trying to keep up with the Jonses'" - buying things that will give the impression of wealth and status, like nice clothes, a nice car outside, etc etc.

In a so-called "Classless Society", after listening to others, reading articles and forming my own opinions, it appears to me that snobbery still runs riot in the world, whether it be toward lesser-educated, lesser-financially well off or those who live on "The Wrong Side of the Tracks".

Any thoughts?


only thought is that no really I do not do those things when it comes to friends. as for education I guess in my long life I feel I know many without common sense who could benefit from some education. It is "romantic' notion that an uneducated man is all that...education provides a good deal more than an income - it is also a value system and a way of life - thus a factor in compatibility that I consider NOT require in dating

I agree that informal education can be very valuable as I have educated myself in a couple of disciplines, however, I have not yet been able to find anyone willing to employ me in either (I am a self made Naturalist and Computer Geek)

most employers preferring those with related education

so while we can romanticize the "self made man," he is the exception not the rule

and money cannot buy manners, taste, tact, or grace - all things important to me

but WTF I'll be friends with anyone - dont matter to me if they went to Harvard or the local community college, or none....but my closest friends throughout my life are mostly college educated OR quite motivated in their business/personal endeavors with plans to start or finish college
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Aug 17, 2011 10:44 AM CST Social Snobbery
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Bodecia: Hi B.. Yes, feeling much better now, thank you.

Interesting point: Acquired wealth -v- New Money..



No Bo, Acquired wealth V Old Money is what I was referring to.

Acquired wealth nowadays are the new nouveau rich in my opinion and this is where I think snobbery abounds.
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Aug 17, 2011 10:50 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
felixis99: only thought is that no really I do not do those things when it comes to friends. as for education I guess in my long life I feel I know many without common sense who could benefit from some education. It is "romantic' notion that an uneducated man is all that...education provides a good deal more than an income - it is also a value system and a way of life - thus a factor in compatibility that I consider NOT require in dating

I agree that informal education can be very valuable as I have educated myself in a couple of disciplines, however, I have not yet been able to find anyone willing to employ me in either (I am a self made Naturalist and Computer Geek)

most employers preferring those with related education

so while we can romanticize the "self made man," he is the exception not the rule

and money cannot buy manners, taste, tact, or grace - all things important to me

but WTF I'll be friends with anyone - dont matter to me if they went to Harvard or the local community college, or none....but my closest friends throughout my life are mostly college educated OR quite motivated in their business/personal endeavors with plans to start or finish college


Hi felix..nice post.bouquet

I really do think that since the economic recession hit, it is so much more difficult to gauge what 'type' of person one is from their job. Its all been turned on its head now, and we all do what we have to to get by.

I think we tend to gravitate toward those who have the same interests, and therefore those who met at college, etc will have more initially to discuss. However, quite often you run out of conversation quickly outside those boundaries. Some of the rudest, most ignorant people I have ever come across have been Ivy League types, Oxbridge types..

I think intelligence and common sense stem from your inherent character, and no amount of education of social status can increase or decrease that.

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Aug 17, 2011 10:51 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
bestbefore: No Bo, Acquired wealth V Old Money is what I was referring to.

Acquired wealth nowadays are the new nouveau rich in my opinion and this is where I think snobbery abounds.


Sorry, thats what I meant to say..doh

Obviously not as recovered as I thought..uh oh rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 17, 2011 10:51 AM CST Social Snobbery
hairymonkey
hairymonkeyhairymonkeyWoBurn, Massachusetts USA38 Threads 11 Polls 254 Posts
I don't make any requirements about education or income level on dating profiles, or what kind of car someone has. But if somebody writes poorly or sounds like a redneck, it turns me off. If that sounds snobbish, then I'm probably a snob.
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Aug 17, 2011 10:56 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
hairymonkey: I don't make any requirements about education or income level on dating profiles, or what kind of car someone has. But if somebody writes poorly or sounds like a redneck, it turns me off. If that sounds snobbish, then I'm probably a snob.


Hi hairy..(great name!)laugh

Yep, the subject of grammer, and spelling raises its head many times on here. Many are judged because of poor spelling or phrasing.

wine
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Aug 17, 2011 10:57 AM CST Social Snobbery
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Bodecia: Hi True..

Do you remember Harry Enfield's character - Tim, Nice But Dim..

He reminded me of so many people who were Oxbridge Grads, but dumber than a box of rocks..


What a bloody nice bloke.. laugh

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Aug 17, 2011 11:00 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
TrueBlue1986: What a bloody nice bloke..


rolling on the floor laughing

A true Child of Thatcher..laugh
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Aug 17, 2011 11:01 AM CST Social Snobbery
TrueBlue1986: I'm an inverted snob.

I don't tend to care how educated, rich or succesful one is. However, anybody who was privately educated or has had some sort of gilded youth I tend to avoid as if they were a plague - not with every person mind you, but I generally find them nauseating, unserious and unwise to the World.

More than likely I see things this way because my favourite people are generally the aspirational Working Class. The only "elite" in my opinion can be those who tore themselves from nothing.


I understand where u coming from
but people are people - no one can be more, or less than who they are which inclucdes the sum of their expereince

but ya I come from a wealthy suburb and have known many spoiled people, but even that is relative as to what constitutes spoiled

I tend to avoid the types u describe mainly because in their lack of "street smarts" they make trouble unecessarily (and not meaning to) or simply do not understand what I have gone through so we really have no unspoken connection (important to me)and I simply cannot afford to be a victim of their "political incorrectness" in a street smart sense if that makes ANY senseteddybear
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Aug 17, 2011 11:06 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia: Hi felix..nice post.

I really do think that since the economic recession hit, it is so much more difficult to gauge what 'type' of person one is from their job. Its all been turned on its head now, and we all do what we have to to get by.

I think we tend to gravitate toward those who have the same interests, and therefore those who met at college, etc will have more initially to discuss. However, quite often you run out of conversation quickly outside those boundaries. Some of the rudest, most ignorant people I have ever come across have been Ivy League types, Oxbridge types..

I think intelligence and common sense stem from your inherent character, and no amount of education of social status can increase or decrease that.


I pretty much agree with this

one's upbringing- whether rich or poor - when of integrity will show through regardless of ones occupation - and education or lack of is no guarantor of breeding/manners/fortitude

if mama did ya right you'll be decenthug laugh
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Aug 17, 2011 11:09 AM CST Social Snobbery
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I'm sure not many people will admit to it.

At times I am and not afraid to admit to it.
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Aug 17, 2011 11:11 AM CST Social Snobbery
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
felixis99: I pretty much agree with this

one's upbringing- whether rich or poor - when of integrity will show through regardless of ones occupation - and education or lack of is no guarantor of breeding/manners/fortitude

if mama did ya right you'll be decent


Something that was touched on in an earlier post: acquired wealth and old money... People that were born with a Silver Spoon in Their Mouths are a funny crowd; often narrow-minded and sheltered from the Real World, but many times with wonderful manners and social graces. Acquired wealth types have worked hard, built up from nothing, but have a chip on their shoulders the size of The Trump Building towards those who were born into it.

Takes all sorts!laugh
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