Accountability and Responsibility (114)
Bodecia: This is not really a Single Parent issue, but its the nearest catergory I could find.
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Yes they should be at least pay for the mess they made there's having a good time and then there's trashing the place(which is not a good thing)
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Condemned666: Yes they should be at least pay for the mess they made there's having a good time and then there's trashing the place(which is not a good thing)
I agree.
Apparently, there were blocked toilet bowls overflowing with paper, dirty this that and the other around the rooms and a couple are so bad they are unrentable today.
I can only assume that these kids were not taught to respect others' properties.
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I believe the kids of today get away with far too much..too many rights given to them ..they are their own bosses..I remember catching my daughter plonking school and drinking at 13..as I grounded her she tried to barge by me out the door and I grabbed her and pushed her into her room so I could lock the front door..the next day I got a call from her school saying I could be up on an assault charge for restraining her against her will..
..parents have been stripped of their parental rights..if we cant teach our own children right from wrong then who can...
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Bodecia: I agree.
Apparently, there were blocked toilet bowls overflowing with paper, dirty this that and the other around the rooms and a couple are so bad they are unrentable today.
I can only assume that these kids were not taught to respect others' properties.
Apparently, there were blocked toilet bowls overflowing with paper, dirty this that and the other around the rooms and a couple are so bad they are unrentable today.
I can only assume that these kids were not taught to respect others' properties.
If the coach of the group paid by credit card... could a bill for cleanup (and lost revenue) not be charged to the card?
Possibly with an explanation sent to the Coach (address taken from card information?)
That is outrageous behavior and does show lack of either Accountability and Responsibility (at least so far)
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boomboom_uk: I believe the kids of today get away with far too much..too many rights given to them ..they are their own bosses..I remember catching my daughter plonking school and drinking at 13..as I grounded her she tried to barge by me out the door and I grabbed her and pushed her into her room so I could lock the front door..the next day I got a call from her school saying I could be up on an assault charge for restraining her against her will.. ..parents have been stripped of their parental rights..if we cant teach our own children right from wrong then who can...
Exactly, BB.
I am all for having a good time, but when it verges on criminal damage, it is going too far.
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Ur_Knight: If the coach of the group paid by credit card... could a bill for cleanup (and lost revenue) not be charged to the card?
Possibly with an explanation sent to the Coach (address taken from card information?)That is outrageous behavior and does show lack of either Accountability and Responsibility (at least so far)
Possibly with an explanation sent to the Coach (address taken from card information?)That is outrageous behavior and does show lack of either Accountability and Responsibility (at least so far)
I believe when they checked out this morning, they paid by check.
But we have discussed it here, and decided that the next time we allow teams like this into the resort we get the responsible adult's (coach's) full contact details so that we can ask him to check the rooms prior to check out to ensure nothing is badly wrong.
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Ur_Knight: If the coach of the group paid by credit card... could a bill for cleanup (and lost revenue) not be charged to the card?
Possibly with an explanation sent to the Coach (address taken from card information?)That is outrageous behavior and does show lack of either Accountability and Responsibility (at least so far)
Actually this is correct....they do have his contact info I'm sure....and can be billed for damages if it costs over and beyond normal wear and tear costs.Possibly with an explanation sent to the Coach (address taken from card information?)That is outrageous behavior and does show lack of either Accountability and Responsibility (at least so far)
There should be letters sent to other motels/hotels of the actions of this schools team...and sent to the offending school super intendente as well so they are made aware of this teams actions and the costs that occurred.
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Bodecia: I believe when they checked out this morning, they paid by check.
But we have discussed it here, and decided that the next time we allow teams like this into the resort we get the responsible adult's (coach's) full contact details so that we can ask him to check the rooms prior to check out to ensure nothing is badly wrong.
But we have discussed it here, and decided that the next time we allow teams like this into the resort we get the responsible adult's (coach's) full contact details so that we can ask him to check the rooms prior to check out to ensure nothing is badly wrong.
I would contact the school or the school board and have pics available.
JMO
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Bodecia: This is not really a Single Parent issue, but its the nearest catergory I could find.
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
I know that in some cases, the parents are held accountable for what their kids do and it doesn't teach them anything. All it does is tell them that they can do it again because mom and dad will be held accountable.
At the age range of those kids, they are old enough to be held accountable for their behavior. It is the only way they will learn
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Raynew1959: I know that in some cases, the parents are held accountable for what their kids do and it doesn't teach them anything. All it does is tell them that they can do it again because mom and dad will be held accountable.
At the age range of those kids, they are old enough to be held accountable for their behavior. It is the only way they will learn
At the age range of those kids, they are old enough to be held accountable for their behavior. It is the only way they will learn
I agree again, Ray. However, with the laws they way they are here in the US they can get away with crying for Momma until they are whatever age.
Personally, I think they should be held financially accountable for any damage they do. They didnt just spoil the rooms for others, they also disturbed other, fee-paying guests.
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Bodecia: Good idea.
The only "positive" to come out of it so far is that the housekeepers are getting great tips from all the quarters strewn all over the patios and rooms..
The only "positive" to come out of it so far is that the housekeepers are getting great tips from all the quarters strewn all over the patios and rooms..
I don't know if it's "do-able" or not, but maybe anytime you have large groups like that, maybe check the room out before departure? (Just a thought)
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Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Where were these children's parents/guardians? Was it just a "coach" left with them? What is wrong with teaching children/teens accountability and responsibility for their actions?
Children learn (most times) by example, if their parents will not take accountability and responsibility for their own actions, do they think their children will learn it?
I detest parents who let little Johnny/Susie get away with "murder" because they don't want to "break their spirits." Kids can have a good time and celebrate a win but not at the cost of destroying property, and disturbing the peace of others....
Where were these children's parents/guardians? Was it just a "coach" left with them? What is wrong with teaching children/teens accountability and responsibility for their actions?
Children learn (most times) by example, if their parents will not take accountability and responsibility for their own actions, do they think their children will learn it?
I detest parents who let little Johnny/Susie get away with "murder" because they don't want to "break their spirits." Kids can have a good time and celebrate a win but not at the cost of destroying property, and disturbing the peace of others....
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amahlala: Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Where were these children's parents/guardians? Was it just a "coach" left with them? What is wrong with teaching children/teens accountability and responsibility for their actions?
Children learn (most times) by example, if their parents will not take accountability and responsibility for their own actions, do they think their children will learn it?
I detest parents who let little Johnny/Susie get away with "murder" because they don't want to "break their spirits." Kids can have a good time and celebrate a win but not at the cost of destroying property, and disturbing the peace of others....
Where were these children's parents/guardians? Was it just a "coach" left with them? What is wrong with teaching children/teens accountability and responsibility for their actions?
Children learn (most times) by example, if their parents will not take accountability and responsibility for their own actions, do they think their children will learn it?
I detest parents who let little Johnny/Susie get away with "murder" because they don't want to "break their spirits." Kids can have a good time and celebrate a win but not at the cost of destroying property, and disturbing the peace of others....
Hi, my friend.
This was a junior hockey game, with around 25 teenagers. They seemed to have only one "responsible adult" to supervise them.
You would have thought that they would have used up all their excess energy in the game, but apparently not.
One thing I noticed, was that last night, around 10.55pm, 5 minutes before the reception shut they asked to eat pizza in the reception area. Unfortunately, they couldnt, and were asked to eat it in their rooms. The coach was the one who got most upset about that.
If the supervising adult does not show any respect for the rules, how can we expect the kids to?
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Bodecia: This is not really a Single Parent issue, but its the nearest catergory I could find.
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Pictures should have been taken to document the rooms, and then extra clean up charges charged to their charge card. As well, whatever group(school) they came from should be notified so that the parents can deal with their kids.Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
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langleygirl: Pictures should have been taken to document the rooms, and then extra clean up charges charged to their charge card. As well, whatever group(school) they came from should be notified so that the parents can deal with their kids.
I agree. And after this experience, it has encouraged the management to make changes in their booking policies and charging methods, which is all good.
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Bodecia: Hi, my friend.
This was a junior hockey game, with around 25 teenagers. They seemed to have only one "responsible adult" to supervise them.
You would have thought that they would have used up all their excess energy in the game, but apparently not.
One thing I noticed, was that last night, around 10.55pm, 5 minutes before the reception shut they asked to eat pizza in the reception area. Unfortunately, they couldnt, and were asked to eat it in their rooms. The coach was the one who got most upset about that.
If the supervising adult does not show any respect for the rules, how can we expect the kids to?
This was a junior hockey game, with around 25 teenagers. They seemed to have only one "responsible adult" to supervise them.
You would have thought that they would have used up all their excess energy in the game, but apparently not.
One thing I noticed, was that last night, around 10.55pm, 5 minutes before the reception shut they asked to eat pizza in the reception area. Unfortunately, they couldnt, and were asked to eat it in their rooms. The coach was the one who got most upset about that.
If the supervising adult does not show any respect for the rules, how can we expect the kids to?
I see what you are saying; I think the hotel should charge the credit card for "excessive damages." If the school or the so-called coach dares to question it, the hotel should respond with the damages it had to clean up.
It is one thing if kids are having fun (in a reasonable manner) but not being taught to respect public property or how to behave in public is a bad mark on the parents. And that coach should be removed from his job...
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amahlala: I see what you are saying; I think the hotel should charge the credit card for "excessive damages." If the school or the so-called coach dares to question it, the hotel should respond with the damages it had to clean up.
It is one thing if kids are having fun (in a reasonable manner) but not being taught to respect public property or how to behave in public is a bad mark on the parents. And that coach should be removed from his job...
It is one thing if kids are having fun (in a reasonable manner) but not being taught to respect public property or how to behave in public is a bad mark on the parents. And that coach should be removed from his job...
They were decent enough kids, but obviously had grown up not being taught how to behave. So, I guess I blame the parents more than I do them.
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Bodecia: This is not really a Single Parent issue, but its the nearest catergory I could find.
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?
I firmly believe they should be held accountable, and as for the coach isn't he the one that should lead by example... shame on him..!! jmo
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islandgirl62: I firmly believe they should be held accountable, and as for the coach isn't he the one that should lead by example... shame on him..!! jmo
Yep!
Mind you, after a weekend of trying to supervise 25 unruly teen boys, I probably wouldnt be in the best of moods, either!
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Just clocked on for work, and heard about the craziness caused by a bunch of youngsters that were here for a hockey game. From what I could see last night, they were around the ages of 15-17. All boys.
Apparently, and dont shoot the messenger, they caused mayhem last night and early this morning in the resort; loud noise, crashing around over grassy areas, and leaving garbage all over outside their rooms. The housekeeping staff also report the worst mess they have ever seen in rooms, and the coach's room was one of the worst. The term "Dogs" was mentioned.
So, my question is this: do you think that younger people these days should be held more accountable for their actions? I completely understand that these kids were here for a good time and a great game, but from what I understand the rooms were trashed. The poor housekeepers were run ragged today cleaning up after them.
Do you think kids should be taught more responsibility, or left to run riot?