DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ? ( Archived) (42)

Oct 3, 2011 11:04 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
mohd1346
mohd1346mohd1346kuwait, Al Asimah Kuwait24 Threads 65 Posts
Hi
Some ppl say that there was no plane hit the pentagon .
That attact was not in the night n there were too many of ppl near that area n the 757 is very big .

What about the pentagon security cameras?

Is there any CLEAR video from those camaras?
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Oct 3, 2011 11:14 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
There were people who died when the plane hit the Pentagon, so I don't agree with this post.
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Oct 3, 2011 11:16 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Some ppl say that there was no plane hit the pentagon.
(Reply: yes indeed, they do)

That attact was not in the night n there were too many of ppl near that area n the 757 is very big .
(Reply: 757 is big, especially it's wing span; until it hits a building like that @ >500 mph)

What about the pentagon security cameras?
(Reply: What about them?)

Is there any CLEAR video from those camaras?
(Reply: I think their recordings are low quality.)

wave

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Oct 4, 2011 12:08 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
I heard it was some form of Tesla ray gun.

doh

Seriously, some of the truther claims would be at home in a Monty Python sketch.
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Oct 4, 2011 4:29 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
mohd1346: Hi
Some ppl say that there was no plane hit the pentagon .
That attact was not in the night n there were too many of ppl near that area n the 757 is very big .

What about the pentagon security cameras?

Is there any CLEAR video from those camaras?


Nope. Thing was flying at around six hundred miles per hour at tree top level so there won't be much in the way of non high speed footage.
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Oct 4, 2011 6:12 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Class5: I heard it was some form of Tesla ray gun.



Seriously, some of the truther claims would be at home in a Monty Python sketch.


Well nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition!!!


laugh
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Oct 4, 2011 7:46 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
No... and it doesn't seem anyone else did either. dunno
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Oct 4, 2011 7:52 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
Volcano_21
Volcano_21Volcano_21istanbul, Marmara Turkey6 Threads 117 Posts
In response to: Hi
Some ppl say that there was no plane hit the pentagon .
That attact was not in the night n there were too many of ppl near that area n the 757 is very big .

What about the pentagon security cameras?

Is there any CLEAR video from those camaras?

are you a cia secret agent?confused
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Oct 4, 2011 11:27 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
A lot of people saw the plane hit the Pentagon, unfortunately they were all on the plane.
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Oct 4, 2011 1:54 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Albertaghost: Nope. Thing was flying at around six hundred miles per hour at tree top level so there won't be much in the way of non high speed footage.


Eighty floors up is not exactly treetop level. But one thing about Manahttan is that you really can't see the sky in any direction, especially from the street. You have to look straight up to see the sky and if you do that you'll get run over in a second. So it's actually the ideal place for such a scam. A few fake videos released immediately after the explosions and people imagine they've seen something that really didn't happen.
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Oct 4, 2011 2:04 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA: All of the videos that claim to show planes hitting the WTC are demonstrably fake.


Here's an explanation of how the CNN footage was faked for example.

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Oct 4, 2011 3:08 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
Tomcats2
Tomcats2Tomcats2Norwich, Norfolk, England UK81 Threads 9 Polls 2,249 Posts
RayfromUSA: Here's an explanation of how the CNN footage was faked for example.
what crap
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Oct 4, 2011 3:14 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
outdoorgirlsun
outdoorgirlsunoutdoorgirlsunSapulpa, Oklahoma USA5 Threads 1,085 Posts
I guess the GMA video was also a fake. I was watching, when the second plane went directly behind Diane Sawyers head. GMA was taping and you could see the plane thru the window and then it the building. Ray, you are so.........full of it. You can't get away with faking all this with out media. Hell they figured out watergate for Christ's sake.
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Oct 4, 2011 4:14 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
RayfromUSA: Eighty floors up is not exactly treetop level. But one thing about Manahttan is that you really can't see the sky in any direction, especially from the street. You have to look straight up to see the sky and if you do that you'll get run over in a second. So it's actually the ideal place for such a scam. A few fake videos released immediately after the explosions and people imagine they've seen something that really didn't happen.


He's talking about the Pentagon, not the WTC. uh oh
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Oct 4, 2011 8:28 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
outdoorgirlsun: I guess the GMA video was also a fake...the second plane went directly behind Diane Sawyers head.
You can't get away with faking all this with out media.

Nobody is suggesting they did it without media. On the contrary, the media is even more a part of all this than the government.

The government controls laws, but the media controls minds.


Ok lets examine your supposed "proof" video, shall we?

I googled "911 diane sawyer" and this video came up.
It's was aired on 911.



Let's see how much fakery we can find involving the supposed 2nd plane.

The first "plane" clip starts at 1:29 and continues to 1:34 (5 seconds). It's called the Fairbanks video after the photographer who supposedly filmed it. It supposedly occurred during an interview of an FBI agent by an amateur photographer on the street near the WTC and, just by luck, caught the (supposed) plane hitting the second tower.

But it's a total fake for many reasons.

First, the camera angle doesn't exist.

Many photographers have gone to the exact same place and tried (using all sorts of lenses) to duplicate the camera angle of the video's background. But they found it to be impossible. The only way to duplicate the supposed camera angle is by a composite of different images. Studio fakery.

And guess what. In the video itself there is absolute proof that such fakery was in progress.

In truth the video involves a fake background still photo green- screened behind a studio-filmed "interview" and superimposed footage of the plane and fireball photo-shopped in.

here's a still from that video.


Look just above the guys arm. There are two video monitors visible. One contains a clip of the plane impact. The other contains a clip of the supposed fireball that erupts after the impact.

Of course that implies that either the guy has already set up cameras trained on the 2nd building (if the planes were real) or he has some footage of the plane and explosion to be mixed into a the faked street scene.

Watch the video again and concentrate on these two monitors. You'll see the plane footage in the first and the fireball footage in the second.

Now think, why would they have the two cameras and two monitors filming not the building that is already in flames but the (as yet) untouched building?

And in the less than 23 minutes between the explosion at the first tower and that of the second, would an amateur photographer have the time to set up at least three cameras and two monitors and a mixing device (visible) out on the sidewalk, and then find a passing FBI agent to question and (using an impossible camera angle) catch the supposed second "plane" in the process.


All that fakery in a 5 second video clip.

I think I'll have to do this in several posts.
So I'll break here.

To be continued.
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Oct 4, 2011 9:01 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Can clearly see a fusalage in frame right before the explosion.........roll eyes

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Oct 4, 2011 9:11 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
DBguy
DBguyDBguyDaytona Beach, Florida USA8 Threads 349 Posts
RayfromUSA: Here's an explanation of how the CNN footage was faked for example.
Where are the people at, that were on those planes. Were they kidnapped and executed. Are they living nicely on a unknown island told to keep quiet. Or maybe, they are deceased because they were blown to pieces on that plane. If a straw can penetrate a telephone pole from tornadic windforce, likewise a plane at high speed loaded with fuel can penetrate a steel reinforced building.
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Oct 4, 2011 9:32 PM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
"The government controls laws, but the media controls minds."

The media may control your mind baby, but leave me out of the equation

talk to hand
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Oct 5, 2011 1:00 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
jvaski: Can clearly see a fusalage in frame right before the explosion.........



Look again.
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Oct 5, 2011 1:50 AM CST DID YOU SEE THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGONE ?
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts


dunno
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