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Nov 13, 2011 6:22 AM CST SMOKING
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
Now i dont want smokers here giving me a hard time..i am not ditching people who smoke..I am simply just asking a question and wondering if i am being selfish..
If you have a smoker in the house but others do not smoke..is it fair for the non-smokers..(children) to have to breathe this in?
We all know that second hand smoke is the worsed..I think that if their is a smoker in the house.why couldnt they go outside to smoke if they want to continue to smoke..I hear its my house and if i want to smoke then i can smoke..if you dont like you guys go outside..dunno Is that fair Really? I care about my children and myself..i know what smokeing can do to a woman..i read up on it..give them heart disease..stroke..cervical cancer and so on..that is just from second hand smoke...if i was doing to myself then its my fault..
When i was pregnant at 26 i quit cold turkey so i know what it is to smoke..but i thought of someone else then myself..

Opinions would be greatly appreciated..
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Nov 13, 2011 6:36 AM CST SMOKING
potter1
potter1potter1stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 240 Posts
kissmedeeply: Now i dont want smokers here giving me a hard time..i am not ditching people who smoke..I am simply just asking a question and wondering if i am being selfish..
If you have a smoker in the house but others do not smoke..is it fair for the non-smokers..(children) to have to breathe this in?
We all know that second hand smoke is the worsed..I think that if their is a smoker in the house.why couldnt they go outside to smoke if they want to continue to smoke..I hear its my house and if i want to smoke then i can smoke..if you dont like you guys go outside.. Is that fair Really? I care about my children and myself..i know what smokeing can do to a woman..i read up on it..give them heart disease..stroke..cervical cancer and so on..that is just from second hand smoke...if i was doing to myself then its my fault..
When i was pregnant at 26 i quit cold turkey so i know what it is to smoke..but i thought of someone else then myself..

Opinions would be greatly appreciated..


You are right to think someone selfish to smoke in front of children & non smokers.I smoked for 34 years & gave up cold turkey because my ex wife was given 6 months to live if she did not stop smoking, so I stopped with her,sadly we went our separate ways but 7 years on she is not only still with us, but in much better shape.But there is more than meets the eye in this surge to get people to quite in the uk.bouquet
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Nov 13, 2011 6:38 AM CST SMOKING
Hi Kissme wave


I smoke. And I smoke in my house. However, I don't have children in my home. If I did, I wouldn't smoke near/around them.

Here in the U.S., the laws are such now that you can hardly go to any business and smoke. Some places allow the E-cigarettes, which don't contain any actual "smoke", but still do contain chemicals like nicotine. The reason is that there isn't that second-hand smoke element. Not to say of course that the smoker of the e-cigarette still isn't doing themselves harm, what with the chemicals and such.


So even though I do smoke, I do respect that non-smokers and children shouldn't be subjected to my second-hand smoke.
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Nov 13, 2011 6:42 AM CST SMOKING
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
RedHeadedTaurus: Hi Kissme I smoke. And I smoke in my house. However, I don't have children in my home. If I did, I wouldn't smoke near/around them.

Here in the U.S., the laws are such now that you can hardly go to any business and smoke. Some places allow the E-cigarettes, which don't contain any actual "smoke", but still do contain chemicals like nicotine. The reason is that there isn't that second-hand smoke element. Not to say of course that the smoker of the e-cigarette still isn't doing themselves harm, what with the chemicals and such.So even though I do smoke, I do respect that non-smokers and children shouldn't be subjected to my second-hand smoke.
Hello and thank you..Both my boys hate the smoke..but the other boy now is 21 and of course is living on his own...he really doesnt like being around here when there is smoking..i read up on it and its says no matter if you go into another room and close the doors..the chemical is still in the air..i do not want to have health issues neither for my son if its not caused by our own doings..
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Nov 13, 2011 6:47 AM CST SMOKING
70Libra
70Libra70LibraCounty, Waterford Ireland57 Threads 9,681 Posts
kissmedeeply: Now i dont want smokers here giving me a hard time..i am not ditching people who smoke..I am simply just asking a question and wondering if i am being selfish..
If you have a smoker in the house but others do not smoke..is it fair for the non-smokers..(children) to have to breathe this in?
We all know that second hand smoke is the worsed..I think that if their is a smoker in the house.why couldnt they go outside to smoke if they want to continue to smoke..I hear its my house and if i want to smoke then i can smoke..if you dont like you guys go outside.. Is that fair Really? I care about my children and myself..i know what smokeing can do to a woman..i read up on it..give them heart disease..stroke..cervical cancer and so on..that is just from second hand smoke...if i was doing to myself then its my fault..
When i was pregnant at 26 i quit cold turkey so i know what it is to smoke..but i thought of someone else then myself..

Opinions would be greatly appreciated..

I smoke, but it's one of my outdoor pursuits.

Smoking is prohibited by law in all buildings open to the public, including bars and restaurants so to take that habit home was not a big stretch.

No if only the weather would cooperate sigh
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Nov 13, 2011 8:09 AM CST SMOKING
buckeye1332
buckeye1332buckeye1332marionish, Ohio USA3 Threads 64 Posts
I smoke, but I respect others who do not. I have no problems with not smoking at all when around people who do not, or if I choose to smoke, taking it outdoors and away from them. And above all else, I will not smoke around children.

kissmedeeply, it's not really whether you smoke or not. What this boils down to is someone's consideration and respect for others. This stretches beyond smoking.
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Nov 13, 2011 8:17 AM CST SMOKING
Kittt
KitttKitttMartinsburg, West Virginia USA1 Threads 35 Posts
I work in the medical field and see and know what second hand smoke can do to the "non-smoker". I do not smoke, but my ex did around me and our young daughter. He said it was "his right" to smoke where he wanted. I left him (not only for those reasons - he was a drunk, too). He still smokes when he has her (24 hours every 3 or 4 months - his choice) but I try to keep her and myself (quit cold turkey over 31 years ago and never went back) away from smokers. It is devastating what lung cancer can do to one who has never smoked, let alone one who has - you'd never want to go there!!!
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Nov 13, 2011 8:33 AM CST SMOKING
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece114 Threads 21,290 Posts
The saying "its my house and if i want to smoke,then i can smoke...if you don't like you guys go outside." its plain inconsiderate.
kissmedeeply: I hear its my house and if i want to smoke then i can smoke..if you dont like you guys go outside.. Is that fair Really?
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Nov 13, 2011 8:47 AM CST SMOKING
I quit smoking in my house about 2 years ago. I do go to the garage and light up (or outside). Our town went 100% non-smoking in bars & restaurants. When I go out for a drink, I go to another town that allows smoking in bars. (cigs and drinks go together...I don't care what anyone says)

I do have e-cigs for in-house. My understanding is the only thing they "give off" is nicotine. While not 100% safe, they greatly reduce the danger compared to a regular cigarette.

Smoking is a rather complex addiction. If it were easy to quit, everyone would.

Anyone ever seen a death certificate stating a person died from "2nd hand smoke"? I've always wondered about that? dunno
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Nov 13, 2011 9:01 AM CST SMOKING
freesparrow
freesparrowfreesparrowHarlingen, Texas USA11 Threads 1 Polls 1,430 Posts
In response to: Now i dont want smokers here giving me a hard time..i am not ditching people who smoke..I am simply just asking a question and wondering if i am being selfish..
If you have a smoker in the house but others do not smoke..is it fair for the non-smokers..(children) to have to breathe this in?
We all know that second hand smoke is the worsed..I think that if their is a smoker in the house.why couldnt they go outside to smoke if they want to continue to smoke..I hear its my house and if i want to smoke then i can smoke..if you dont like you guys go outside.. Is that fair Really? I care about my children and myself..i know what smokeing can do to a woman..i read up on it..give them heart disease..stroke..cervical cancer and so on..that is just from second hand smoke...if i was doing to myself then its my fault..
When i was pregnant at 26 i quit cold turkey so i know what it is to smoke..but i thought of someone else then myself..

Opinions would be greatly appreciated..
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Nov 13, 2011 9:06 AM CST SMOKING
freesparrow
freesparrowfreesparrowHarlingen, Texas USA11 Threads 1 Polls 1,430 Posts
Left out my post!!
It is selfish and inconsiderate to smoke in a house or building with others in it. The smell is offensive and inhaling the smoke will usually have non-smokers coughing. One Christmas, I hid my children's gifts at my smoking sister's house. When they were opening them, they said, "They smell like ____'s house!" lol
I have a student in one of my afternoon classes and every day, he smells like he has been in a smoke-filled bar. I feel bad for him.
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Nov 13, 2011 9:55 AM CST SMOKING
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA87 Threads 26,944 Posts
I wonder if someone who's drunk behind the wheel of a vehicle has the very same attitude as smokers do.
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Nov 13, 2011 9:56 AM CST SMOKING
I have a "married with children" couple of friends. They have 2 beautiful daughters 13 & 16 now. The 16 YO has blossomed into a gorgeous young lady. The 13 YO gets cuter by the day. Both parents smoke, in the house, and when the girls come home from school, they aren't allowed to go out to play in the yard because the mother doesn't want them getting their clothes all dirty so they stay inside til they go to school the next day. The mother also does at least 1 load sometimes 2 loads of laundry everyday. The girls get their clothes laundered after each wearing. To add to this, the mother uses fabric softener in the washing machine as well as dryer sheets in the dryer because she loves the smell.
So. The girls breathe in 2nd hand smoke from 2 chain smokers 7 days a week, plus they are exposed to the fumes given off by fabric softener chemicals 24 hours a day.

I had friends years ago who worked at a place that manufactured fabric softener and dryer sheets in Hackensack NJ, and they told me that most workers don't last very long before they quit for respiratory reasons. They hired mostly HS kids part time for min wage and no benefits. You can smell that place a quarter mile away. I stopped using both items years ago in fact I don't even use a dryer unless it's raining. Give me a good old clothesline any day. Plus it's free!
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Nov 13, 2011 10:17 AM CST SMOKING
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
FreddyFudpucker: I quit smoking in my house about 2 years ago. I do go to the garage and light up (or outside). Our town went 100% non-smoking in bars & restaurants. When I go out for a drink, I go to another town that allows smoking in bars. (cigs and drinks go together...I don't care what anyone says)

I do have e-cigs for in-house. My understanding is the only thing they "give off" is nicotine. While not 100% safe, they greatly reduce the danger compared to a regular cigarette.

Smoking is a rather complex addiction. If it were easy to quit, everyone would.

Anyone ever seen a death certificate stating a person died from "2nd hand smoke"? I've always wondered about that?
there was a lady that worked in a bar died of lunch cancer and never smoked a day in her life..and that is when the smoking wasnt banned then..so who knows
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Nov 13, 2011 10:33 AM CST SMOKING
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada839 Threads 1 Polls 9,162 Posts
tex ritter- smoke smoke that cigarette
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Nov 13, 2011 10:57 AM CST SMOKING
kissmedeeply: there was a lady that worked in a bar died of lunch cancer and never smoked a day in her life..and that is when the smoking wasnt banned then..so who knows


People can get lung cancer from other sources. It's not exclusive to cigarettes. I do think there are variables that come into play.

(I'm not advocating smoking by any means...and admire those who can quit easily.)

Hell, I truly enjoy the smell of burning fall leaves. dunno
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Nov 13, 2011 11:13 AM CST SMOKING
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
FreddyFudpucker: People can get lung cancer from other sources. It's not exclusive to cigarettes. I do think there are variables that come into play.

(I'm not advocating smoking by any means...and admire those who can quit easily.)

Hell, I truly enjoy the smell of burning fall leaves.
This is just what the Dr..told her..it was the reason she got lung cancer was from that..as you said who really knowsdunno
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Nov 13, 2011 11:14 AM CST SMOKING
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain28 Threads 2 Polls 7,291 Posts
kissmedeeply: Now i dont want smokers here giving me a hard time..i am not ditching people who smoke..I am simply just asking a question and wondering if i am being selfish..
If you have a smoker in the house but others do not smoke..is it fair for the non-smokers..(children) to have to breathe this in?
We all know that second hand smoke is the worsed..I think that if their is a smoker in the house.why couldnt they go outside to smoke if they want to continue to smoke..I hear its my house and if i want to smoke then i can smoke..if you dont like you guys go outside.. Is that fair Really? I care about my children and myself..i know what smokeing can do to a woman..i read up on it..give them heart disease..stroke..cervical cancer and so on..that is just from second hand smoke...if i was doing to myself then its my fault..
When i was pregnant at 26 i quit cold turkey so i know what it is to smoke..but i thought of someone else then myself..

Opinions would be greatly appreciated..


Hiya KMD!! wave

There are several levels to your question.

Hypothetically, because I'm a smoker ... And I have been known to go smoke outside when I have visitors who mind the smoke...

If someone is refusing to be considerate while I'm visiting their home with my children... I guess my option is not to visit.

If I was to agree to live with someone who I know smokes (after I've given up smoking), I would want to set bounderies for "healthy air" within the home before agreeing to live with them. If I didn't set the bounderies from the start, I would expect some reluctance on their part for suddenly finding the smoke bothers me for whatever reason. Unless of course I or my children suddenly developped a condition that was made worse by breathing in ciggie smoke.

I agree that smoking and passive smoking isn't good for you. I also think that it's not as much the nicotine as all the chemicals they put in tailor mades.

I smoke 100% tobacco and roll my own with very thin filters. It limits how much I smoke. The air and my clothes don't stink as much because they don't create so much stinky smoke (no chemicals). My sister who can NOT stand smoke or the smell in the homes of smokers, came to visit. She stepped in and said "Oh! You don't smoke in your house!!". I do!!

This could be a compromise if the person refuses to NOT smoke in the house, could they swtich to 100% tobacco roll your own? It's not ideal but it's a vast improvement!

I'm a smoker and the stink of tailor mades makes me uncomfortable!!

On an aside, when I was working, all my colleagues in the department used to be off sick at least twice a year with bronchial illnesses. I, the only smoker, didn't!!
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Nov 13, 2011 11:16 AM CST SMOKING
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA22 Threads 11,402 Posts
I never smoked in my home when I was raising my children, (having quit and resumed smoking several times, quit this past summer and started up again), nor have I ever smoked around my grand-babies.

Smoking in the home is unhealthy not only for the non-smokers but the smoker, animals, plants, etc., it also makes the house smell and walls and furniture become discolored.

I won't smoke around non-smokers.
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Nov 13, 2011 11:18 AM CST SMOKING
I smoke outside or in my sun room when non smokers and children are at my house.
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