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Nov 20, 2011 3:04 PM CST God or no God
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
roach666: god or no god? hmmm i think all religions act more as a moral guide for people to follow and to be honest they all cant be right. As for the question its not one im eager to find out cos some things are better off left alone but they said the big bang started earth but what before that and before that and before that etc?! its a question no one is ever going to find out so its pointless wasting time thinking about it. its the same as spirits and ghosts they could be real they might not be but id rather let someone else figure that out!!!!
folks,thought the world was flat,the bible said the world,was an orb,it took away,my doubts.
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Nov 20, 2011 3:06 PM CST God or no God
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
if you want to read a book. check out the prophesied end times. it is a free down load. form your own thoughts. worth a read my change your mind or it may not. author:Ronald Weinland.
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Nov 21, 2011 12:24 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
roach666: god or no god? hmmm i think all religions act more as a moral guide for people to follow and to be honest they all cant be right.


I can confirm this - I picked up the new testament when I inherited it from my late grandfather a year ago - he had underlined several sentences around in it and it felt natural to find out what has been important to him - as I started to read, I saw at several places, pure equations where how to deal with people was explained, and equations of reactions of certain actions, on good and bad - and true, based on the unchanged human behavior (not hard to understand how prophets can prophecize).

I think it starts to become obvious for many people that Jesus, in fact, did not exist - but they don't get that it, perhaps, part of the beauty of it.
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Nov 21, 2011 12:27 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
The book is tricky in a way, it kind of responds to where you are in life - some pages may be boringly obvious, while others present a small surprise, but some pages does not make sense until later.

My idea about God, is that it is just as important to recognize and be honest about ones own contribution of what "he" is and why we (or the priests) even contribute.
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Nov 21, 2011 12:34 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
So perhaps I could ask - what is "God" without our (human) contribution?

He is nothing.

But, in through the back door, the significant philosophical meaning of "nothing" appear. And that raises all sorts of questions.
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Nov 21, 2011 12:51 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
The heavy complexity could actually explain all the metaphors. Most people also know what a metaphor is, but do they know the significance of the meaning in combination of the words "meta" and "phore"? It gives a different idea than the one that dismisses a metaphor as silly.

In the sense, it seems logical to see that groups of people went really deeply into what nothing is, philosophically, not just by mere bias. But trying to communicate it with people who cared not for the hard work of making sense out of things - it translated into loops of fairytales and fantasy creatures. Which sadly are mentally transmuted into truth and stimulate all sorts of actions.

It is a theory anyway. I may meet God one day :)
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Nov 21, 2011 1:04 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
I am a part of the nothingness. That I have given myself a name and a definition that separate and individualize me is not really important in this sense. And at some point I will die, just like you.

What happens to the physical body after you are dead, is a boring affair to think about, but there is more.

You probably heard from our best physicists, the quantum physicists, that energy cannot be destroyed, it just relocates.
And the question about the energy which is our consciousness reveals itself. Theories of multiple dimentions are suggested by the same scientists, but you really don't need them to notice that the inner world and the outer world are not the same, and that it is logically that our biological evolution, and religion did not fight, they developed in parallel.

It is not as easy to touch a thought as it is to touch your arm. If, in real, it is energy, it will relocate as well - what sort of energy is it, and where does it go - the ancient cultures has preaches religion for millenniums, and how come it all revolves around the same coin, in one way or the other?
Seems to me to be the soul explained. Either way, I'm still at a loss in several places, but I'm still young, and eventually I'll discover it myself, even if it is to not discover.
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Nov 21, 2011 1:20 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
or, to discover that there is nothing to discover hahaha laugh

On a sidenote, the absent of thoughts, or "things" when you are in the absolute state of love, shows a interesting indication to all of this, about what death is.
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Nov 21, 2011 1:34 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
olaix: I am a part of the nothingness. That I have given myself a name and a definition that separate and individualize me is not really important in this sense. And at some point I will die, just like you.


To be honest, I think the various imaginations of gods and mighty entities is invented as a result of the individualization, and why and how it is created (how includes the mechanics) is a extremely important question.
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Nov 21, 2011 5:23 AM CST God or no God
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
potter1: By asking the Question in the first place,you have answered your own Question. NO!!!!


Well, we have many club members, free cookies - wanna join?

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