Financial Armageddon (148)

Dec 15, 2011 8:24 PM CST Financial Armageddon
ABC news just broadcast a news story about twenty thousand villages in China who have lost confidence in the Chinese Communist Party Officials attempting to steal there land.
One protest leader has been murdered while in police custody. Bound up in time....
Dec 16, 2011 3:59 AM CST Financial Armageddon
daggyone
daggyonedaggyoneWonthaggi, Victoria Australia143 Threads 14 Polls 1,963 Posts
Seems you just have to go with the alternative lifestyle on a bit of land with an off the grid power system, home grown food, spin your own wool and knit your own jumpers, sew your own clothes etc, etc... confused
Dec 16, 2011 4:37 AM CST Financial Armageddon
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
Arkayos: Bernard Connolly worked in the heart of Europe, helping design the framework for the single currency, but he became disillusioned and turned against the European project, writing a polemical tome against monetary union called “The Rotten Heart of Europe: The Dirty War for Europe’s Money”. For his troubles he was sacked by the European Commission.

His predictions about the future of europe are a little scarey:

“The current policy of lending plus austerity will lead to social unrest,” he said. To gasps in the audience, he talked about the countries at the centre of the storm — Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain, “One should not forget that of the four countries we are talking about, all have had civil wars, fascist dictatorships and revolutions. That is history. And that is the future if this malignant lunacy of monetary union is pursued and crushes these countries into the ground.”

Meanwhile Defence chiefs are drawing up plans to cope with the potential military fallout from the eurozone crisis, according to General Sir David Richards. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8957513/Eurozone-crisis-poses-military-risk-warns-defence-chief-General-Sir-David-Richards.html)

1933 all over again. As George Santayana once said, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”


If anyone wants a taste of what is coming, the hasty manner by which the law that allows the deployment of the military inside the US and that they will be able to detain US citizens and legal residents indefinitely have been passed in the US senate, gives an idea:



Also, here are two videos from the IMF chief:

IMF Chief warns of another great depression


IMF chief Christine Lagarde warns that global economic outlook is 'gloomy'


As I was driving today in the ABC radio they were talking about the chance for a global depression all the time. I have been saying this since 2007. People thought I was too gloomy, too negative. Nobody listened.
Dec 16, 2011 4:41 AM CST Financial Armageddon
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
Arkayos: This could be more important to us than Europe...

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard thinks China is crashing:

It is hard to obtain good data in China, but something is wrong when the country's Homelink property website can report that new home prices in Beijing fell 35pc in November from the month before....

...Meanwhile, the slowdown is creeping into core industries. Steel output has buckled....

With lower steel production there will be less demand for Australian ore, and Australian coal... Could mean the mining boom is about to slow down...

Full Article:


Yes, China is in deep trouble. In 2008 the government had to deal with social unrest in two provinces. They are the factory of the world, but with virtually no internal market they are fragile, their economy depends on external markets. A lot of wealth will evaporate in the coming deflation. A Chinese friend of mine said, this will be good for the country because 99% of the population lives on a dollar a day anyway, they will not be affected.
Dec 16, 2011 4:56 AM CST Financial Armageddon
Arkayos
ArkayosArkayosbrisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 377 Posts
revealer24: Yes, China is in deep trouble. In 2008 the government had to deal with social unrest in two provinces. They are the factory of the world, but with virtually no internal market they are fragile, their economy depends on external markets. A lot of wealth will evaporate in the coming deflation. A Chinese friend of mine said, this will be good for the country because 99% of the population lives on a dollar a day anyway, they will not be affected.


I'm not sure if it would be 99% - but it is up there - but even 1% of the Chinese population would be more than the whole working population of Australia.

My company employed 350 ladies (circa 1997) and they then would make $1.65 an 8 hour day (but if they were only allowed to work 8 hours they soon left - average day was 14 hours) They worked 6 days a week. and in two years they would make more money than their father and grandfather would have made in their whole lives, combined.

But the middle class in china is seriously booming - huge cities, which is why I think the percentage of people in the middle class is probably closer to 5%.
Dec 18, 2011 7:21 PM CST Financial Armageddon
Arkayos
ArkayosArkayosbrisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 377 Posts
This could be an interesting week.

The end of the Euro according to the Telegraph:

telegraph: Confounded by the triumph of remorseless debt over political will, EU leaders have succumbed to collective delirium, promising that future government budgets will be “balanced or in surplus” and that annual structural deficits will “not exceed 0.5 per cent of nominal gross domestic product”.

There is not one chance in a million that this can be achieved by more than a handful of EU states. When fantasy masquerades as action, the end is nigh.


and Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is going on again about the 1930's repeating

AEP: The echoes of the 1930s are loud, and will become louder as combined monetary and fiscal contraction entrench depression.


both articles:





Dec 18, 2011 9:59 PM CST Financial Armageddon
Arkayos
ArkayosArkayosbrisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 377 Posts
Kim Jong Il of North Korea just died. Just a little bit more instability we didn't need right now. (although - he really wasn't what one would call "Stable")

His 20 something son Kim Jong Un is his appointed successor.

Just what we need right now - a twenty something ruler, of a potential nuclear armed state...

sigh
Dec 19, 2011 6:01 AM CST Financial Armageddon
Arkayos
ArkayosArkayosbrisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 377 Posts
Paul Krugman (nobel winning economist) now thinks the world is coming to an end... Well a depression worse than 1930's...




Personally - I would think it is a very good time to get a few cases of tinned ham and veg in the cellar...

Enjoy the Kayos... grin


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