How would you approach your new partner or husband/wife, your financial responsibilities to make a relationship work in a loving way? Please comment what has worked for you and what has not.
Well, leaving it up to chance seems like the first mistake to me. The savings (the savings done together) is of more interest to me, since there are way better methods making them produce children than putting them in a bank, or in a fund.
Eventually, since I'm still young, being financial independent (living off of what your assets is paying you) is my main goal, and it is crucial that the partner see the point in this way of thinking.
I have never been in a relationship that did not have enough money, everything has always been shared fair and square, but the spare money has always been used buying things that take money out of the pocket, instead of buying things that put money into your pocket. So, I cannot say I have screwed up, but I can't say I have done very well either.
southmiami12: How would you approach your new partner or husband/wife, your financial responsibilities to make a relationship work in a loving way? Please comment what has worked for you and what has not.
This was some time ago, and my then partner and I were not legally married, although we did introduce each other as such. Here is what we decided to do while living together: Almost 100% of the time her income was about 2/3 of mine, net, that is. I also had better overtime opportunities than she did, but we did not throw that into the mix. Almost all of the time, with perhaps a few exclusions, I paid the cafe, bar and tavern bills for us both. I did not mind at all. We were renting at the time, so her share of the rent was 2/3 of one half the rent. The grocery and utility bill was 50/50. Car costs were 2/3 of her half, as initially she had brought the car. We each later had our own. Trips/vacations were paid by me. Generally, if there was a question of sharing, and we agreed the item should be, she paid 2/3 of her half. We were both OK with that.
southmiami12: How would you approach your new partner or husband/wife, your financial responsibilities to make a relationship work in a loving way? Please comment what has worked for you and what has not.
I wouldn't want to share my financial responsibilities with someone; I like my financial independance and expect that from a partner as well. What worked for me in the past was, having a shared account for all living expenses, with a shared savings account for our travels. Everything else would be seperate so we both still had our own funds and no arguments on who spent what on what. What matters is you're both in agreement.
In my first marriage we had nothing so financial security was not an issue that we needed to debate. We made a budget for ourselves even including the 2 cent deposit on soda bottles. My second marriage was a completely different story. By then I/we had accumulated a nice estate and when we split up we divided up all our marital assets equally. In the ensuing years she pissed away everything and today can barely make ends meet. She made the mistake of thinking that just because we did quite well while we were together that she somehow had a talent to growing wealth. She failed to realize that it was me who handled all the money in the marriage, all she did was spend it. I think it's important to leave love out of the equation. Love has nothing to do with managing money. The other thing is it's probably a good idea to stay within your own monetary circle. This way there's less chance of money being a deciding factor in who marries who. This way the questions and doubts about motives don't arise.
ooby_dooby: In my first marriage we had nothing so financial security was not an issue that we needed to debate. We made a budget for ourselves even including the 2 cent deposit on soda bottles. My second marriage was a completely different story. By then I/we had accumulated a nice estate and when we split up we divided up all our marital assets equally. In the ensuing years she pissed away everything and today can barely make ends meet. She made the mistake of thinking that just because we did quite well while we were together that she somehow had a talent to growing wealth. She failed to realize that it was me who handled all the money in the marriage, all she did was spend it. I think it's important to leave love out of the equation. Love has nothing to do with managing money. The other thing is it's probably a good idea to stay within your own monetary circle. This way there's less chance of money being a deciding factor in who marries who. This way the questions and doubts about motives don't arise.
it is difficult to keep love out of it, though, if love is there between the two people. What did you think of how my girl and I handled things? (You can be honest...)
rohaan: it is difficult to keep love out of it, though, if love is there between the two people. What did you think of how my girl and I handled things? (You can be honest...)
If it worked for you guys then who am I to say it's no good? I was in a similar scenareo with a gf a while back, we even bought a house together. We had a joint checking acct which we both put the same amount in every 2 weeks from which we paid all the bills. Sometimes I made more than her sometimes not. As to love & money, I'd like to see a law passed making it ilegal to get a marriage license without a prenup. This would remove all the hard feelings about 1 person wanting one because it would be the law and it would take a big burdan off divorce courts.
Thanks, Olaix, Sleeping, Rohan and Ooby for your comments. I've had my struggle with my finances, not because of spending but putting the right priorities first. I was a single Mom for many years but did not ask for support. Only asked my ex for help if my kids would ask for it. Many men have big egos and can't stand that a woman can do on her own; others just don't like to share and controls it all. I think when it's dealing with money things have to add up right but also both parties should have their own vote in making decisions. Thanks once again for sharing, hope more people comment on their own experiences....
it has to be a shared responsibility with agreed goals. If we weren't married, I would keep my finances separate. Share the common expenses but my savings are mine as his savings are his. If we were married, I'd be very sure that I kept my nose in and I'd peruse every statement and attend every meeting with our financial advisor. Unfortunately, I didn't do that when I was married. I even think that a signed contract between two people is a good idea. What you agree to when you're in love with each other can change significantly when decide to part ways.
southmiami12: How would you approach your new partner or husband/wife, your financial responsibilities to make a relationship work in a loving way? Please comment what has worked for you and what has not.
What works best is staying single.You have all the responsibility of your own financial mistakes and can`t blame your malfeasance on your significant other.If you are an idiot in the financial arena it is all on you.In lieu of that scenario start arguing about money management..
What works best is staying single.You have all the responsibility of your own financial mistakes and can`t blame your malfeasance on your significant other.If you are an idiot in the financial arena it is all on you.In lieu of that scenario start arguing about money management..
Not talking about singleness here but for a future relationship. It's simple, you are alone and you are on your own.....no questions asked...no headaches.. no worries
southmiami12: Thanks, Olaix, Sleeping, Rohan and Ooby for your comments. I've had my struggle with my finances, not because of spending but putting the right priorities first. I was a single Mom for many years but did not ask for support. Only asked my ex for help if my kids would ask for it. Many men have big egos and can't stand that a woman can do on her own; others just don't like to share and controls it all. I think when it's dealing with money things have to add up right but also both parties should have their own vote in making decisions. Thanks once again for sharing, hope more people comment on their own experiences....
You made the same mistake I made. Not realizing that both parents are legally obligated to support the kids. Child support belongs to them and not to you (as the custodial parant) and you don't have the right to waive your ex's child support payments. In my case my ex just didn't have it, so it would have been like sqeezing blood out of a turnip.
Definitely would ensure that there are separate financial agreements. I would not expect a partner to take on my personal debt, nor would I expect to take on his, (been there, done that).
It can harm you, personally, if your partner has bad credit and has not taken care of their obligations. If you do not have it written down that you will not be responsible for their debts, past or present, you will find yourself dealing with quite a few outside interests.....
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