AlbertaghostOPCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
Ron Paul is actually pro Israel as he acknowledges that the US spends far more in aid in surrounding countries who then use that aid money to make war on Israel forcing Israel to use their aid for US made weapons to counter the threat.
He advocates the stopping of all aid which to me would be the beginning of Russian and Chinese influence upon the planet as superpowers with reach as Israel would have little interest in renting out Haifa to the US and instead, provide safe berth to one of them.
The only losers here would be both the US and the Arabs with the latter having no protection as Israel without a leash is something they have yet to experience.
Of course Ron Paul is not opposed to Iran seeking a nuclear weapon as he knows of no target they might use it against but, at the same time, all parties and presidents in the recent past have viewed this as a serious concern.
Ron Paul is for legalization of ALL drugs including crack, heroin, cocaine etc as to not have it infringes on personal liberties. His foreign policy ideas seem to be a result of his practice of indulging in 'personal liberties' as no sane person would view the killing of Bin Laden as wrong but, such is Ron.
Oh, illegal aliens watch out, this guy is not your bag for sure as he wants a lot of fences so, seems to cater to all extremists.
Albertaghost: Ron Paul is actually pro Israel as he acknowledges that the US spends far more in aid in surrounding countries who then use that aid money to make war on Israel forcing Israel to use their aid for US made weapons to counter the threat.
He advocates the stopping of all aid which to me would be the beginning of Russian and Chinese influence upon the planet as superpowers with reach as Israel would have little interest in renting out Haifa to the US and instead, provide safe berth to one of them.
The only losers here would be both the US and the Arabs with the latter having no protection as Israel without a leash is something they have yet to experience.
Of course Ron Paul is not opposed to Iran seeking a nuclear weapon as he knows of no target they might use it against but, at the same time, all parties and presidents in the recent past have viewed this as a serious concern.
Ron Paul is for legalization of ALL drugs including crack, heroin, cocaine etc as to not have it infringes on personal liberties. His foreign policy ideas seem to be a result of his practice of indulging in 'personal liberties' as no sane person would view the killing of Bin Laden as wrong but, such is Ron.
Oh, illegal aliens watch out, this guy is not your bag for sure as he wants a lot of fences so, seems to cater to all extremists.
Israel will have little interest in renting haifa to the USA?! what a threat(!) from an israeli surrogate! oh oh oh..USA must cry like a baby now...woaa, woaa, woaa!!
Albertaghost: Ron Paul is actually pro Israel as he acknowledges that the US spends far more in aid in surrounding countries who then use that aid money to make war on Israel forcing Israel to use their aid for US made weapons to counter the threat.
He advocates the stopping of all aid which to me would be the beginning of Russian and Chinese influence upon the planet as superpowers with reach as Israel would have little interest in renting out Haifa to the US and instead, provide safe berth to one of them.
The only losers here would be both the US and the Arabs with the latter having no protection as Israel without a leash is something they have yet to experience.
Of course Ron Paul is not opposed to Iran seeking a nuclear weapon as he knows of no target they might use it against but, at the same time, all parties and presidents in the recent past have viewed this as a serious concern.
Ron Paul is for legalization of ALL drugs including crack, heroin, cocaine etc as to not have it infringes on personal liberties. His foreign policy ideas seem to be a result of his practice of indulging in 'personal liberties' as no sane person would view the killing of Bin Laden as wrong but, such is Ron.
Oh, illegal aliens watch out, this guy is not your bag for sure as he wants a lot of fences so, seems to cater to all extremists.
And by the way, albert, cut these rubbish talks as if the USA will not be able to 'survive' without israel and some haifa port. Israel needs the USA more than the USA needs israel. you can also note it down that israel will beg to the USA to use that haifa port because letting the USA use haifa port is very much in interest of israel.
mnowsa: And by the way, albert, cut these rubbish talks as if the USA will not be able to 'survive' without israel and some haifa port. Israel needs the USA more than the USA needs israel. you can also note it down that israel will beg to the USA to use that haifa port because letting the USA use haifa port is very much in interest of israel.
What happen,Alberta hit a raw spot? Besides,look at the location of Haifa Harbor! Russia or China would like a Mediterranean Plum fall in their lap!
mnowsa: And by the way, albert, cut these rubbish talks as if the USA will not be able to 'survive' without israel and some haifa port. Israel needs the USA more than the USA needs israel. you can also note it down that israel will beg to the USA to use that haifa port because letting the USA use haifa port is very much in interest of israel.
mnowsa: Israel will have little interest in renting haifa to the USA?! what a threat(!) from an israeli surrogate! oh oh oh..USA must cry like a baby now...woaa, woaa, woaa!!
Conrad73: What happen,Alberta hit a raw spot? Besides,look at the location of Haifa Harbor! Russia or China would like a Mediterranean Plum fall in their lap!
In today's geo-political game in this world, it is only natural that countries will 'fight' to gain access to all kind of available resources. I don't see any problem in china or russia using haifa port. just wondering, did china or russia sign any kind of agreement that they never should be able to use haifa port, conrad?
we don't need a ron paul in office. what we need is a president who will stand up to the thugs in the world and to protect us and our allies from people like that. also we need to have a stronger border to keep those people out of our country. we don't need them or want them. also here goes the anti-jewish rethoric again.
mnowsa: In today's geo-political game in this world, it is only natural that countries will 'fight' to gain access to all kind of available resources. I don't see any problem in china or russia using haifa port. just wondering, did china or russia sign any kind of agreement that they never should be able to use haifa port, conrad?
got any Deepwater-Ports for your Neighbors to use?
AlbertaghostOPCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
mnowsa: And by the way, albert, cut these rubbish talks as if the USA will not be able to 'survive' without israel and some haifa port. Israel needs the USA more than the USA needs israel. you can also note it down that israel will beg to the USA to use that haifa port because letting the USA use haifa port is very much in interest of israel.
If the US didn't use it, China and Russia would love to pay just as much, if not more to use it. Just so they could cost the US another half trillion dollars to build another couple of fleets to keep up with the new communist presence in the Med with the nearest support port a six day turn around in Naples!
john12196341: we don't need a ron paul in office. what we need is a president who will stand up to the thugs in the world and to protect us and our allies from people like that. also we need to have a stronger border to keep those people out of our country. we don't need them or want them. also here goes the anti-jewish rethoric again.
Where do you think we'll get a leader such as you describe?Only in fairy tales maybe?
Albertaghost: If the US didn't use it, China and Russia would love to pay just as much, if not more to use it. Just so they could cost the US another half trillion dollars to build another couple of fleets to keep up with the new communist presence in the Med with the nearest support port a six day turn around in Naples!
Methinks you underestimate the value of the port.
nah...it is you who seems to be 'overestimating' the value of the port (And trust me, i know what your real agenda is and has always been, dude). USA has army/naval bases almost everywhere and every strategic location in this world from where it can have all the necessary millitary supports. So, once again, cut these rubbish talks about one particular port.
AlbertaghostOPCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
mnowsa: (And trust me, i know what your real agenda is and has always been, dude).
And I know what yours is as well - to portray anything that smacks of freedom as a negative and to give your repressive dogma a boost of some kind as your country is well known for it's human rights violations which any the US has pale in comparison.
It shows in all of your posts. Now, please, cease with the personal comments and address the thread.
Albertaghost: If the US didn't use it, China and Russia would love to pay just as much, if not more to use it. Just so they could cost the US another half trillion dollars to build another couple of fleets to keep up with the new communist presence in the Med with the nearest support port a six day turn around in Naples!
Methinks you underestimate the value of the port.
You think you know everything..
What makes a color black?
“A fool may be known by six things: anger, without cause; speech, without profit; change, without progress; inquiry, without object; putting trust in a stranger, and mistaking foes for friends” ~Arabian Proverb
“A fool may be known by six things: anger, without cause; speech, without profit; change, without progress; inquiry, without object; putting trust in a stranger, and mistaking foes for friends” ~Arabian Proverb
no reflection of any Frequency of any Light! A Mini-Blackhole of sorts!
What the OP doesn't seem to realize is that the US has no interest in renting Haifa.
It's true that the US is going to have to cede much of its world influence. In fact it already has.
What the OP is worried about is that Israel will have to stop pretending to be a superpower and will have to start living from its own resources instead of living off of the US.
The OP's claim (falsely attributed to Ron Paul) is that the US gives far more money to other mideast nations than to Israel. That claim is very far from the truth.
The United States has given more money to Israel than to any other country. The Congressional Research Service’s conservative estimate of total cumulative US aid to Israel (not adjusted for inflation) from 1949 through 2010 is $109.001 billion.
And for what? So that Jews all over the world can go there and steal the land from the indigenous people of the land? Why in the world should they have that right? What other nation has any such similar right to steal the land of others?
The original claim was that the poor Jews had no place to go. But look around. There are Jews in every country. And they are just as welcome to assimilate as any other nation. If they don't it's because they don't want to. They enjoy that cult feeling of being special, somehow deserving rights that they certainly don't grant to other peoples.
The Jews are the biggest champions in the world for free immigration when it comes to other nations. But they insist on reserving the land that they stole from the Palestinians to only members of their own cult. Nobody else is welcome to be a citizen there.
Imagine the fuss they would make if the US refused citizenship rights to Jews, and refused to let them return if they went abroad, and stole their land at will, and erected fences to keep them isolated.
What the OP doesn't seem to realize is that the US has no interest in renting Haifa.
It's true that the US is going to have to cede much of its world influence. In fact it already has.
What the OP is worried about is that Israel will have to stop pretending to be a superpower and will have to start living from its own resources instead of living off of the US.
The OP's claim (falsely attributed to Ron Paul) is that the US gives far more money to other mideast nations than to Israel. That claim is very far from the truth.
The United States has given more money to Israel than to any other country. The Congressional Research Service’s conservative estimate of total cumulative US aid to Israel (not adjusted for inflation) from 1949 through 2010 is $109.001 billion.
And for what? So that Jews all over the world can go there and steal the land from the indigenous people of the land? Why in the world should they have that right? What other nation has any such similar right to steal the land of others?
The original claim was that the poor Jews had no place to go. But look around. There are Jews in every country. And they are just as welcome to assimilate as any other nation. If they don't it's because they don't want to. They enjoy that cult feeling of being special, somehow deserving rights that they certainly don't grant to other peoples.
The Jews are the biggest champions in the world for free immigration when it comes to other nations. But they insist on reserving the land that they stole from the Palestinians to only members of their own cult. Nobody else is welcome to be a citizen there.
Imagine the fuss they would make if the US refused citizenship rights to Jews, and refused to let them return if they went abroad, and stole their land at will, and erected fences to keep them isolated.
but they are renting! And the Website you are citing is below the Dogs!
Arrived at your favorite Topic to get a bit more Jewbashing in before the year is out?
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He advocates the stopping of all aid which to me would be the beginning of Russian and Chinese influence upon the planet as superpowers with reach as Israel would have little interest in renting out Haifa to the US and instead, provide safe berth to one of them.
The only losers here would be both the US and the Arabs with the latter having no protection as Israel without a leash is something they have yet to experience.
Of course Ron Paul is not opposed to Iran seeking a nuclear weapon as he knows of no target they might use it against but, at the same time, all parties and presidents in the recent past have viewed this as a serious concern.
Ron Paul is for legalization of ALL drugs including crack, heroin, cocaine etc as to not have it infringes on personal liberties. His foreign policy ideas seem to be a result of his practice of indulging in 'personal liberties' as no sane person would view the killing of Bin Laden as wrong but, such is Ron.
Oh, illegal aliens watch out, this guy is not your bag for sure as he wants a lot of fences so, seems to cater to all extremists.