All this things happening resently may be accidently,but goes between Christian majority countries and muslim countries.Europeans think that ,this wars are for democracy or for oil,may be on terror.But any ordinary muslim will tell you that theese wars are between religions and somehow reminds them a crusider wars from history.
I personally think that theese wars are really on terror,for democracy,for natural resurces and control more countries politics but nothing to do religion Whats your opinion?
Rummy1: All this things happening resently may be accidently,but goes between Christian majority countries and muslim countries.Europeans think that ,this wars are for democracy or for oil,may be on terror.But any ordinary muslim will tell you that theese wars are between religions and somehow reminds them a crusider wars from history.
I personally think that theese wars are really on terror,for democracy,for natural resurces and control more countries politics but nothing to do religion Whats your opinion?
And what were the crusades really about??? Real estate, natural resources and greed, just like they are right now. The religious aspect was just a form of control so that they could invade other countries and justify it to their own countries population who made up the armed combatants.
rider4u: And what were the crusades really about??? Real estate, natural resources and greed, just like they are right now. The religious aspect was just a form of control so that they could invade other countries and justify it to their own countries population who made up the armed combatants.
yeah but they were calling those wars Holy Wars.Shall we call todays wars Holy wars too
Rummy1: yeah but they were calling those wars Holy Wars.Shall we call todays wars Holy wars too
You miss my point...doesn't matter what you call them they are still about real estate, resources and greed. Calling them Holy Wars is just a way to sway the people of the invading country to motivate them to fight. To instigate a conflict is not difficult between people but you have to look at the motivation of the people wanting the conflict. imho
rider4u: And what were the crusades really about??? Real estate, natural resources and greed, just like they are right now. The religious aspect was just a form of control so that they could invade other countries and justify it to their own countries population who made up the armed combatants.
Its always about power and control Rummy no matter how it is named.
rider4u: You miss my point...doesn't matter what you call them they are still about real estate, resources and greed. Calling them Holy Wars is just a way to sway the people of the invading country to motivate them to fight. To instigate a conflict is not difficult between people but you have to look at the motivation of the people wanting the conflict. imho
Actually I got u and agree with u.What I m saying is before they were calling it Holy Wars to justify themselves but today its dangerous to call it like that so different names.Buslims see this wars as a religion war which is not the true nature of theese wars
Rummy1: Actually I got u and agree with u.What I m saying is before they were calling it Holy Wars to justify themselves but today its dangerous to call it like that so different names.Buslims see this wars as a religion war which is not the true nature of theese wars
I honestly believe that most of the Muslim world sees this conflict as a battle for resources fought by organized thugs (criminals) who use religious zealots to fire up their people and I don't think they like their religion being used any more than we do. The Muslim religion will eventually overtake most countries simply by attrition and population.
rider4u: I honestly believe that most of the Muslim world sees this conflict as a battle for resources fought by organized thugs (criminals) who use religious zealots to fire up their people and I don't think they like their religion being used any more than we do. The Muslim religion will eventually overtake most countries simply by attrition and population.
yea,and that would be a disaster for humanity.Cos we need religion free educated ,civilised people to take over the world.
Rummy1: yea,and that would be a disaster for humanity.Cos we need religion free educated ,civilised people to take over the world.
It certainly will be a much different world than we live in now but that is the nature of humanity. I don't foresee a global Muslim state that is as stringent as the current residing power of Iran but I don't really know. Hopefully a more liberal society where there is room for us all is in our future but I know that whatever the world is like they can never take away my freedom, because in my soul I am free and nothing can change THAT.
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I personally think that theese wars are really on terror,for democracy,for natural resurces and control more countries politics but nothing to do religion
Whats your opinion?