Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War ( Archived) (119)

Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Unlike Afghanistan’s president, the Taliban do understand that their goal of knocking America out of Afghanistan and the region is extremely unattainable and the only way they could envisage a political settlement and by some miracles find a voice in Afghan society after fifteen years of continuous atrocities, is to redefine their objective narrowly.

For a hypothetical moment, suppose, tomorrow the Taliban open up a political office in Afghanistan. One would highly doubt that Afghans will voluntarily join their political party as Taliban’s past track record is a clear indication of a savage cult that misunderstands Islam and has no respect for Afghan cultural values. No Afghan would want to be the subject of public flogging like livestock in exchange for a political discourse.

But the senseless Afghan war must end. If Mr. Karzai is truly genuine about bringing a well-deserved peace to Afghanistan, he must be genuine about the peace process. First, Mr. Karzai must discern between Afghanistan’s foes and friends. He must use the tools of democracy afforded to him at the sacrifice of the international community and the Afghan people, to delegitimize terrorist actions. For example: the Afghan Parliament must be encouraged to pass a law that forbids any Afghans to take arms against the Constitution of Afghanistan, punishable by death, with a final amnesty to all Taliban terrorist before the law is ratified. This will demonstrate to the Afghan people that Karzai’s government is a serious institution and true custodian of the Afghan Constitution.

Second, the Afghan government must work hard to reform mosques that have historically been used as a tipping point for major political upheavals. Whether it has been the Iranian regime or Pakistan ISI – they have easily manipulated these venues to propagate against reform and the progressive nature of a democratic society.

Third, the Afghan opposition leaders also have a stake in shaping the course of Afghanistan’s future. They must demonstrate to Afghans that individuals with Afghan blood on their hands will no longer be part of a new chapter. Allowing these nefarious characters to participate in political dialogue will afford the Taliban an opening to delegitimize their genuine cause. The opposition must also bring into their ranks many tribal elders and youth organizations that counter Taliban terrorist ideology. The new generation of Afghans, especially students who are introduced to the benefits of education are fundamentally opposing the Taliban mindset and their Pakistani-innovated Islamic values.

Wahid Monawar is former Permanent Representative of Afghanistan to the United Nations in Vienna, Austria. He is currently an associate of Zurich Partners.

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Jan 21, 2012 11:46 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
WomniZer
WomniZerWomniZerFlorence, Tuscany Italy3 Threads 113 Posts
I don't care what you all say, I STILL love pizza!! grin
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Jan 21, 2012 1:02 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Antjo39: Discussion boards? I see how important you think you are. Well, there you go.
I just mentioned a few topics to freely review (about that subject). As I said, I do not have your biased methods to choose isolated quotes and sources, and certainly I know it is so hard for you to take many different sources of information and try to get to your own conclussions; let alone reading a whole serious treatise (something that could be part of a more serious form of "research" a word you have been misusing here constantly....)
Anyway, your superiority consists in repeating official truths that suit your little mind and your insane fanatical drive to appear here and everywhere as intelligent and well-learned. I wonder how many reasonable women are pleased with such a miserable show here.


All that and still no quote, title or page number. doh
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Jan 21, 2012 1:05 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
WomniZer: You just want to have arguments online and debase people, that's all your threads are about; not sharing info, not debating, but to argue and show off the size of your...
EGO.

Personally, I think you're a f ---- well, no need to say it, you'll find an argument with that too.

So, how long has it been since a woman put up with your crap?
Obviously too long, Sherlock.


troll
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Jan 21, 2012 1:13 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
WomniZer
WomniZerWomniZerFlorence, Tuscany Italy3 Threads 113 Posts
Albertaghost: troll


Man! you really are childish, you know that?

A stick in the mud AND childish!

You better let your next girlfriend (as if) know what a stick in the mud and childish you are before you waste her time and efforts hoping you're a gentleman with all his marbles in the right place...














What an idiot roll eyes
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Jan 21, 2012 1:28 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
WomniZer: Man! you really are childish, you know that?

A stick in the mud AND childish!

You better let your next girlfriend (as if) know what a stick in the mud and childish you are before you waste her time and efforts hoping you're a gentleman with all his marbles in the right place...What an idiot


Seems to me that you're the one who is spending an inordinate amount of time, band width and mental energy into insulting a complete stranger on an internet forum simply because you have trolled and it was not appreciated.

Possibly you might take your own advice which I have place in bold and apply it should the opportunity arise.

Have a great day regardless!thumbs up
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Jan 21, 2012 1:37 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
WomniZer
WomniZerWomniZerFlorence, Tuscany Italy3 Threads 113 Posts
Albertaghost: Seems to me that you're the one who is spending an inordinate amount of time, band width and mental energy into insulting a complete stranger on an internet forum simply because you have trolled and it was not appreciated.

Possibly you might take your own advice which I have place in bold and apply it should the opportunity arise.

Have a great day regardless!


Yeah, okay, great... Now go play in traffic, will ya? wine
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Jan 21, 2012 11:19 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost: All that and still no quote, title or page number.
Maybe after a few reencarnations you may be able to READ something decent and shape your own ideas about any subject, instead of using your methods to "prove" things. Until it happens we will have enough with your own quotes, pages, authors and all that repetition of official mantras presented here as a result of your subtle intelligence... laugh wave wink
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Jan 22, 2012 12:31 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Antjo39: Maybe after a few reencarnations you may be able to READ something decent and shape your own ideas about any subject, instead of using your methods to "prove" things. Until it happens we will have enough with your own quotes, pages, authors and all that repetition of official mantras presented here as a result of your subtle intelligence...
p,that Shining Path of the Taliban!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 22, 2012 12:31 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Conrad73: yep,that Shining Path of the Taliban!
uh oh rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 22, 2012 12:49 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Albertaghost: ""Children as young as 7 have reported that they were deployed as suicide bombers. Surviving children who trained as suicide bombers describe having been given amulets containing verses from the Quran that they were told would protect them from the explosion. They said they were told that when the bomb they carried detonated, everyone around them would die but they would survive.

“The Taliban’s use of children as suicide bombers is not only sickening, but it makes a mockery of Mullah Omar’s claim to protect children and civilians,” said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “Any political movement or army that manipulates or coerces children into becoming human bombs has lost touch with basic humanity.”

The Taliban has pledged to respect the laws of war, published a code of conduct, and recently released a statement by its leader, Mullah Omar, renewing a commitment to protect civilians. The Taliban has denied using children as suicide bombers or for other military purposes.

The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan has collected evidence that the Taliban has been recruiting children ages 11 through 17 to carry out activities including armed combat, planting improvised explosive devices, and smuggling weapons across the Pakistan-Afghan border. The Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission confirms increasing use by the Taliban of child suicide bombers. The Afghan government has reported that as many as 100 children who were recruited as suicide bombers by the Taliban are in the custody of the National Directorate of Security.

Recent incidents of suicide bombing involving children include:
• On June 26, an 8-year-old girl was killed in central Uruzgan province when a bag of explosives that the Taliban had instructed her to carry to a police checkpoint detonated.
• On May 20, in Nuristan province, a suicide vest strapped to a 12-year-old boy exploded prematurely, killing several suspected insurgents, including the boy.
• In early May, five children, all under age 13, from Logar and Ghazni provinces who had allegedly been trained as suicide bombers were arrested by the National Directorate of Security.
• Around May 3, a 14-year-old boy who said he had been coerced by the Taliban into carrying a bomb under threat that he would otherwise have his hand cut off surrendered to international troops in Ghazni province.
• On May 1, a 12-year-old boy blew himself up in a bazaar in the Barmal district of eastern Paktika province, killing four civilians and wounding 12 others.
• On April 13, in Kunar province, an explosive vest detonated by a 13-year-old boy killed 10 people, including 5 schoolboys.
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It would be interesting to know the 3 that "red thumbed" the original post. Apparently they like the idea of kids being used and abused.
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Jan 22, 2012 9:00 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Conrad73: p,that Shining Path of the Taliban!
I can guess you can get in trouble by such an equalization of a Peruvian individual with Shining Path. Don´t risk your stay in what has become the substance of your life: CS.

Cheers mate and start practicing your apologies.
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Jan 22, 2012 9:27 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Antjo39: I can guess you can get in trouble by such an equalization of a Peruvian individual with Shining Path. Don´t risk your stay in what has become the substance of your life: CS.

Cheers mate and start practicing your apologies.
Funny!
Did I imply in any way that you were a member of that organization?doh
So you might owe me an Apology!very mad
Besides,do you want to tell me those two Organizations weren't Brainbrothers?
Same Tactics,similar Goals,same methods of achieving them!
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Jan 22, 2012 9:29 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
What should I do...
If I open my "big mouth" and start posting about the CIA and Torture ,everyone s gonna think that I have something against America and my chances to eyewash some rich American women ,are zero...uh oh
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Jan 22, 2012 9:31 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Conrad73: Funny!
Did I imply in any way that you were a member of that organization?
So you might owe me an Apology!
Besides,do you want to tell me those two Organizations weren't Brainbrothers?
Same Tactics,similar Goals,same methods of achieving them!
Actually you have been insulting people on here for Ages,yet you get offended by a remark that shows the similarity between two Terrorgroups!doh
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Jan 22, 2012 9:43 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Boban1: What should I do...
If I open my "big mouth" and start posting about the CIA and Torture ,everyone s gonna think that I have something against America and my chances to eyewash some rich American women ,are zero...


laugh

Is that so?


uh oh

Now i know why I have lost any chance with anyone from any country!



crying
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Jan 22, 2012 1:02 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Antjo39: Maybe after a few reencarnations you may be able to READ something decent and shape your own ideas about any subject, instead of using your methods to "prove" things. Until it happens we will have enough with your own quotes, pages, authors and all that repetition of official mantras presented here as a result of your subtle intelligence...


Actually Human Rights Watch was the source of this thread Autie. You have some evidence they are the source of 'official mantras?'rolling on the floor laughing

Still no quote, page number, titile or author to back up your trollism?doh
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Jan 23, 2012 7:52 PM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
Albertaghost: Actually Human Rights Watch was the source of this thread Autie. You have some evidence they are the source of 'official mantras?'

Still no quote, page number, titile or author to back up your trollism?


You never get anything other than mindless rants and ad hominem from the Onager-but it's entertaining at least. Perhaps Comte was right. rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 2, 2012 3:41 AM CST Taliban Systematicly Use Torture and Children as Tools of War
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Class5: You never get anything other than mindless rants and ad hominem from the Onager-but it's entertaining at least. Perhaps Comte was right.


He's not the only one who plays at that game. Got a new player on the block!
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