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Apr 23, 2012 5:21 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
mak_uits
mak_uitsmak_uitsTongi, Dhaka Bangladesh10 Threads 1 Polls 69 Posts
the atheist people tries to describe the creation of this earth and all the living beings as a natural process. they take the support from the theories of Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. first of all they don't know the difference between law and theories, may be. theories are nothing but some ideas with facts that could not be physically proved. theories changes in time. if the creation of this earth was natural process, how the life of the animals initiated? natural processes are chemical reactions, cell divisions and formations if i summarize. but these can't create a human mind. when the embryo develops inside the womb of a mother, the first four months is for cell developments, formation of bones and flash. and after four months suddenly it starts moving. it proves the existence of God. our body is nothing but carbohydrate compounds. if we could divide it to molecular level these are simply Hydrogen, carbon and others. when a person dies normally everything remain as it was, only the spirit goes back to God. its not a chemical reaction or anything that could be proved by a equation or physics or anything. its something beyond science, beyond human being, its the power of God.
my dear atheist friends, please check this link, what this atheist person says about God
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Apr 23, 2012 5:31 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
70Libra
70Libra70LibraCounty, Waterford Ireland43 Threads 6,782 Posts
mak_uits: the atheist people tries to describe the creation of this earth and all the living beings as a natural process. they take the support from the theories of Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. first of all they don't know the difference between law and theories, may be. theories are nothing but some ideas with facts that could not be physically proved. theories changes in time. if the creation of this earth was natural process, how the life of the animals initiated? natural processes are chemical reactions, cell divisions and formations if i summarize. but these can't create a human mind. when the embryo develops inside the womb of a mother, the first four months is for cell developments, formation of bones and flash. and after four months suddenly it starts moving. it proves the existence of God. our body is nothing but carbohydrate compounds. if we could divide it to molecular level these are simply Hydrogen, carbon and others. when a person dies normally everything remain as it was, only the spirit goes back to God. its not a chemical reaction or anything that could be proved by a equation or physics or anything. its something beyond science, beyond human being, its the power of God.
my dear atheist friends, please check this link, what this atheist person says about God

In order to debunk a theory, such as the theory of evolution, you first have to understand it. Evolution does not happen in one single being, but bit by bit, gradually over long periods of time. It is not noticible in one lifetime.

In order to prove an existance, such as the existance of a 'god', you first have to provide tangible/scientific proof. There is none. The writings of 'god' are just stories in a book, similar to Little Red Riding Hood, James and the Giant Peach to name but two. A character in a storybook, such as those in the Bible or the in Koran are just that, characters, created by the imagination of man.
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Apr 23, 2012 5:36 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
mak_uits: the atheist people tries to describe the creation of this earth and all the living beings as a natural process. they take the support from the theories of Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. first of all they don't know the difference between law and theories, may be. theories are nothing but some ideas with facts that could not be physically proved. theories changes in time. if the creation of this earth was natural process, how the life of the animals initiated? natural processes are chemical reactions, cell divisions and formations if i summarize. but these can't create a human mind. when the embryo develops inside the womb of a mother, the first four months is for cell developments, formation of bones and flash. and after four months suddenly it starts moving. it proves the existence of God. our body is nothing but carbohydrate compounds. if we could divide it to molecular level these are simply Hydrogen, carbon and others. when a person dies normally everything remain as it was, only the spirit goes back to God. its not a chemical reaction or anything that could be proved by a equation or physics or anything. its something beyond science, beyond human being, its the power of God.
my dear atheist friends, please check this link, what this atheist person says about God
Not for one moment do I refer to Einstein or Hawkins for what you would refer to my lack of belief in a god . Not any chance of me reading your link either . Most of the worlds madmen at the moment seem to believe in some god or other . Makes me sick when creeps start peddling their crap on here . GO START A MISSION SITE MAC where you can peddle your crap !
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Apr 23, 2012 5:41 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
mak_uits
mak_uitsmak_uitsTongi, Dhaka Bangladesh10 Threads 1 Polls 69 Posts
70Libra: In order to debunk a theory, such as the theory of evolution, you first have to understand it. Evolution does not happen in one single being, but bit by bit, gradually over long periods of time. It is not noticible in one lifetime.

In order to prove an existance, such as the existance of a 'god', you first have to provide tangible/scientific proof. There is none. The writings of 'god' are just stories in a book, similar to Little Red Riding Hood, James and the Giant Peach to name but two. A character in a storybook, such as those in the Bible or the in Koran are just that, characters, created by the imagination of man.


did you ever check by yourself or just glanced at what others have said? intelligent people search the source of a concerned matter, not at articles written by others. you can't come up with an idea when you just watch some documentaries or books written by other atheist. try with the original scriptures like Quran if you dare.
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Apr 23, 2012 5:47 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
70Libra
70Libra70LibraCounty, Waterford Ireland43 Threads 6,782 Posts
mak_uits: did you ever check by yourself or just glanced at what others have said? intelligent people search the source of a concerned matter, not at articles written by others. you can't come up with an idea when you just watch some documentaries or books written by other atheist. try with the original scriptures like Quran if you dare.

Ooooh.... touchy!

Books or articles that dictate how I should believe are not something that I am interested in. I'm not a sheep that follows any crowd. That's your thing. I believe in what I can see, touch, hear..... evidence. The "holy books", no matter the religion(s) or the writer(s), hold no scientific evidence to support their claims.
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Apr 23, 2012 5:49 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
mak_uits: did you ever check by yourself or just glanced at what others have said? intelligent people search the source of a concerned matter, not at articles written by others. you can't come up with an idea when you just watch some documentaries or books written by other atheist. try with the original scriptures like Quran if you dare.


How do YOU know the Quran is the original scriptures? Where you there to witness it? Or did you just read that somewhere? dunno
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Apr 23, 2012 5:53 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
EagleWoman: How do YOU know the Quran is the original scriptures? Where you there to witness it? Or did you just read that somewhere?
....hi E/W......just here to say goodbye...to you and all........peter.....xxxxxxxxx
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Apr 23, 2012 5:55 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
trueheart1941: ....hi E/W......just here to say goodbye...to you and all........peter.....xxxxxxxxx
Where you off to P.?
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Apr 23, 2012 5:57 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
mak_uits
mak_uitsmak_uitsTongi, Dhaka Bangladesh10 Threads 1 Polls 69 Posts
70Libra: Ooooh.... touchy!

Books or articles that dictate how I should believe are not something that I am interested in. I'm not a sheep that follows any crowd. That's your thing. I believe in what I can see, touch, hear..... evidence. The "holy books", no matter the religion(s) or the writer(s), hold no scientific evidence to support their claims.


if you look back 1400 years ago, there was no science at that period. that was not the era of science. then how could a man, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in the desert of Macca knew all the scientific facts narrated at the Quran at that time? who wrote this book? the water cycle, human ambryo development, and others are described exactly in the way that science have recently found. if you are really intelligent.....

its my prayer time. have to go and will check your reply later
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Apr 23, 2012 6:00 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
mak_uits: if you look back 1400 years ago, there was no science at that period. that was not the era of science. then how could a man, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in the desert of Macca knew all the scientific facts narrated at the Quran at that time? who wrote this book? the water cycle, human ambryo development, and others are described exactly in the way that science have recently found. if you are really intelligent.....

its my prayer time. have to go and will check your reply later
don't let us keep you , and don't hurry back .
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Apr 23, 2012 6:01 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
EagleWoman: Where you off to P.?
.....just leaving this site..........just fed up with people trying to convert me to thier ....religeon.....i am a chistian and proud of it......need i say more.
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Apr 23, 2012 6:05 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
sirLarryIII
sirLarryIIIsirLarryIIIClump, Kildare Ireland72 Threads 9 Polls 2,016 Posts
What difference does it make to you Mak wether people are atheists,agnostics or believers?
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Apr 23, 2012 6:05 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
trueheart1941: .....just leaving this site..........just fed up with people trying to convert me to thier ....religeon.....i am a chistian and proud of it......need i say more.
I'm not , EW,LIB not either , so stick around kinda like your jokes
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Apr 23, 2012 6:06 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
mak_uits: if you look back 1400 years ago, there was no science at that period. that was not the era of science. then how could a man, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in the desert of Macca knew all the scientific facts narrated at the Quran at that time? who wrote this book? the water cycle, human ambryo development, and others are described exactly in the way that science have recently found. if you are really intelligent.....

its my prayer time. have to go and will check your reply later


Are you saying that all who study the Quran, study it in its original version, exactely as it was first written and without one single change, not even a comma?
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Apr 23, 2012 6:08 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
sirLarryIII
sirLarryIIIsirLarryIIIClump, Kildare Ireland72 Threads 9 Polls 2,016 Posts
EagleWoman: Are you saying that all who study the Quran, study it in its original version, exactely as it was first written and without one single change, not even a comma?




Allah forbids comma's!!!professor
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Apr 23, 2012 6:09 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
Evolution was a natural process. How life originated was most probably a coincidence. All it takes for life to begin is 4 essential proteins.

The big mistake in the logic in the opening statement is that: If it was not x, then it must be y.

If science cannot answer the questions, then it must be god's doing.

The problem is that if it was not x, then it could have been z or d or f. It does not follow logically that because x, therefore y.

The bottom line is that atheists must not prove that there is no god. It is impossible to prove a negative. It is up to those who claim there is a god to prove its existence. So far, nobody has been able to prove the existence of god.
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Apr 23, 2012 6:10 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
sirLarryIII: Allah forbids comma's!!!
rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 23, 2012 6:12 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
Condemned666
Condemned666Condemned666norwich, Norfolk, England UK20 Threads 1 Polls 393 Posts
trueheart1941: .....just leaving this site..........just fed up with people trying to convert me to thier ....religeon.....i am a chistian and proud of it......need i say more.


Hi there Mr T. I don't post that much on the forums but I read a lot of them,and from what I've seen you've got quite alot of friends on here and enjoy a bit of light hearted banter so why let a few nutbars trying to convert you into leaving.
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Apr 23, 2012 6:12 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
EagleWoman: Are you saying that all who study the Quran, study it in its original version, exactely as it was first written and without one single change, not even a comma?


If only they did. The problem with the different interpretations arises via the hadiths. That's where all the problems are. The Koran itself is pretty straight forward and the reason why they study it in arabic is so that the meaning doesn't get distorted by translation. That is actually a pretty good idea, but translation cannot be avoided unless one is a native arabic speaker. eh voila.. there it is (as frederic the great used to say laugh)
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Apr 23, 2012 6:12 PM CST life and death--for the atheist
trueheart1941: .....just leaving this site..........just fed up with people trying to convert me to thier ....religeon.....i am a chistian and proud of it......need i say more.
Nope you need say no more True , stay and enjoy the rest of the fourms grin teddybear wave
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