Is it really written in the stars? (23)

May 9, 2012 3:50 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?
May 9, 2012 3:56 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
I don't believe in Predestination (nor the non religious meaning of the word). I find no evidence to support it.
May 9, 2012 4:00 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
sally101: Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?
we are a product of nuture i believe and how we react to that nuture, genes play their part too, i don't believe in the stars or anything like that
May 9, 2012 4:00 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
jimbo79: we are a product of nurture i believe and how we react to that nurture, genes play their part too, i don't believe in the stars or anything like that
May 9, 2012 4:02 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
sally101: Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?


I believe we are all a product of genetics and free will. How much people are influenced by either is a complete mystery as it is impossible to calculate. There is an argument for genetics playing a huge part in what is pre ordained for you i.e. How you will act and the decisions we make. I do believe everyone is different though.

wave
May 9, 2012 4:03 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
sally101: Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?


I do not believe our life is pre destined. We have free will and make choices throughout our lives that determine its path, I am speaking in general terms here, I know things happen in life that we do not chose. As for our personality I think that is a mix of genetics and environment.
May 9, 2012 4:05 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
MADDOG69: I don't believe in Predestination (nor the non religious meaning of the word). I find no evidence to support it.


You can't prove a negative ( as in a non physical - meaning not positive in the basis of substance, rather than good or bad). I don't believe in gods, souls, or unicorns, but I can't prove that any of them do not exist.
May 9, 2012 4:09 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
Pretty much my sentiments from all of your posts but it amazes me who rings premium horoscope numbers or subscribes to the pay for reports?
Or gives their life savings for a chance of redemption and beliefs?

Are we all guillible on some level - is that the nature of man?
May 9, 2012 4:10 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
LiamMG
LiamMGLiamMGClondalkin, Dublin Ireland30 Threads 4 Polls 2,049 Posts
sally101: Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?
i dont believe our life is pre destined i believe we all have the will to make our life what we want it to be think about some of the choices youve made in your life and how different you life would be if you chose a different action
im in control of my life
May 9, 2012 4:12 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
sally101: Pretty much my sentiments from all of your posts but it amazes me who rings premium horoscope numbers or subscribes to the pay for reports?
Or gives their life savings for a chance of redemption and beliefs?

Are we all guillible on some level - is that the nature of man?


i think many of us are looking for a higher power others rather than taking responsibility for their own lifes will hope the answers or reasons lie in horoscopes physics and other cons
May 9, 2012 4:15 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
sally101: You can't prove a negative ( as in a non physical - meaning not positive in the basis of substance, rather than good or bad). I don't believe in gods, souls, or unicorns, but I can't prove that any of them do not exist.

Good point. And also, some things that are true can never be proven true. But, is there evidence to support destiny based on Date of Birth? I can't see any.
May 9, 2012 4:15 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
sally101: Pretty much my sentiments from all of your posts but it amazes me who rings premium horoscope numbers or subscribes to the pay for reports?
Or gives their life savings for a chance of redemption and beliefs?

Are we all guillible on some level - is that the nature of man?


I suppose we all search for answers to some degree. Religion is a far better example of people seeking redemption and meaning imo laugh
May 9, 2012 4:18 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
jimbo79: i think many of us are looking for a higher power others rather than taking responsibility for their own lifes will hope the answers or reasons lie in horoscopes physics and other cons


Sometimes I am envious of those who have convicted unshakeable faith, not to abdicate responsiblity of my life but perhaps at times to attribute life to. It's far easier to be a non believer, I have looked & never found and those with faith will say "I did not see".
Who knows?
May 9, 2012 4:19 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
wittyone
wittyonewittyoneDerry, Ireland9 Threads 8,815 Posts
sally101: Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?


My destiny is in my hands, without a doubt genetics, nature and nurture have all played a role in whom I am today, but ultimately I am in control of my thoughts and behaviour and the life choices I make wave
May 9, 2012 4:19 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
sally101: Is life pre destined? Are you a product of genetics and free will or has your life been pre ordained or maybe your personality influenced depending upon the month or year you were born?
i dont think its pre destined, i think it is what we make it. i know people do say oh you were always meant to do that job or you were always meant to do that etc. i cant see how being born on a certain day is going to make a difference to how your life will turn out dunno
May 9, 2012 4:29 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Personally I believe genetics plays a far bigger part in our lives than we (like to) believe. We all like to think we have free will but do we really.
If we look at the examples of identical twins separated at birth and brought up completely differently (nurtured differently, yet both end up 40 odd years later with a wife named Mary, a 10 yr old Ford Mondeo outside the door, both postal workers and both have the same number of kids with the same names dunno
I guess there are also identical twins brought up together who end up completely different. As I said its individual and hard to evaluate how much is nature and how much is nurture.
May 9, 2012 4:46 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
wittyone
wittyonewittyoneDerry, Ireland9 Threads 8,815 Posts
vinny1967: No fun are they
Who wouldn't want their lives to be one big experiment


Our lives are one big experiment laugh wave
May 9, 2012 4:49 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
wittyone: Our lives are one big experiment


Well I have given up being tested. Just can't take it any more crying

laugh
May 9, 2012 4:55 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
wittyone
wittyonewittyoneDerry, Ireland9 Threads 8,815 Posts
vinny1967: Well I have given up being tested. Just can't take it any more


How do you think us wildlife feel, you humans have it easy roll eyes

apologies to OP for verging of topic, blame Vinny
innocent
May 9, 2012 4:56 PM CST Is it really written in the stars?
wittyone: How do you think us wildlife feel, you humans have it easy

apologies to OP for verging of topic, blame Vinny


You can't help it - you were born in the year of the hippo on a Thursday - we know that wink
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