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May 16, 2012 11:07 AM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Question

Does a blind man dream, and if he do, does he understand what he sees?
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May 16, 2012 12:59 PM CST The blind mans dream
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
olaix: Question

Does a blind man dream, and if he do, does he understand what he sees?

I suppose that they do ,I mean their pineal gland probably transmits some form of pictures
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May 16, 2012 2:34 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Boban1: I suppose that they do ,I mean their pineal gland probably transmits some form of pictures


And do they understand what they see?
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May 16, 2012 2:40 PM CST The blind mans dream
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
olaix: And do they understand what they see?

I assume you`re referring to persons who were born blind ,and I frankly don`t know, never spoke about that to a blind person.As far as I remember they couldn`t understand colors
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May 16, 2012 2:53 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Boban1: I assume you`re referring to persons who were born blind ,and I frankly don`t know, never spoke about that to a blind person.As far as I remember they couldn`t understand colors


The conditions of a real blind man and the possibilities to see what is not known is a technical question, but I was more thinking about it in a philosophical/ spiritual way.
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May 16, 2012 3:06 PM CST The blind mans dream
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
olaix: The conditions of a real blind man and the possibilities to see what is not known is a technical question, but I was more thinking about it in a philosophical/ spiritual way.

oh, like hopes and desires for people who are emotionally blind???
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May 16, 2012 3:16 PM CST The blind mans dream
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Boban1: oh, like hopes and desires for people who are emotionally blind???


rolling on the floor laughing That´s got to be your best ever!!! grin
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May 16, 2012 3:20 PM CST The blind mans dream
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
There´s are beautiful scenes in the film "Elephant Man" where he is teaching a young blind girl what colours "feel" like along the lines of blue= cold/red=hot and another one where he gives her cotton wool so that she gets a "feel" of the clouds ...
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May 16, 2012 3:23 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Boban1: oh, like hopes and desires for people who are emotionally blind???


Not only
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May 16, 2012 3:34 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: There´s are beautiful scenes in the film "Elephant Man" where he is teaching a young blind girl what colours "feel" like along the lines of blue= cold/red=hot and another one where he gives her cotton wool so that she gets a "feel" of the clouds ...


It is not about that. We touched about it another post we exchanged comments, on the truth and the different forms of truth.

The dream is the subjective truth, which means, if accepted, that any meaning will do. We look at the same thing, but it has different meaning to us. Just because you see a meaning, does it mean u understand it? in that case any meaning will do, but then how do you explain you have understood the truth?
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May 16, 2012 3:39 PM CST The blind mans dream
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
EagleWoman: That´s got to be your best ever!!!

Im a simple person ...
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May 16, 2012 3:40 PM CST The blind mans dream
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Boban1: Im a simple person ...


... in the deepest way ...
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May 16, 2012 3:42 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Boban1: Im a simple person ...


Then shouldn't you be able to cough up some simple answers? :) please?
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May 16, 2012 3:44 PM CST The blind mans dream
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
olaix: It is not about that. We touched about it another post we exchanged comments, on the truth and the different forms of truth.

The dream is the subjective truth, which means, if accepted, that any meaning will do. We look at the same thing, but it has different meaning to us. Just because you see a meaning, does it mean u understand it? in that case any meaning will do, but then how do you explain you have understood the truth?


But what if a blind person cannot visualize anything in a dream ? Doesn't that need to be established first before going on to the philosophical level ?
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May 16, 2012 3:47 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
RDM59: But what if a blind person cannot visualize anything in a dream ? Doesn't that need to be established first before going on to the philosophical level ?


I am aware of this, but I don't think so, for the point in the discussion. I assume you know what it is.
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May 16, 2012 3:48 PM CST The blind mans dream
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: It is not about that. We touched about it another post we exchanged comments, on the truth and the different forms of truth.

The dream is the subjective truth, which means, if accepted, that any meaning will do. We look at the same thing, but it has different meaning to us. Just because you see a meaning, does it mean u understand it? in that case any meaning will do, but then how do you explain you have understood the truth?


We look at the same thing, but it has different meaning to us...

It doesn´t matter. What matters is that you understand what helps to grow NOW. Each one will understand the meaning they need at that moment.

Take exacxtely the same dream a few months and experiences down the road and a different understanding will come from it. Exactely what you need at that moment. As nothing is static, nor is our understanding. There can be different stages of understanding of one same thing. It doesn´t matter. Eventually everyone will gat to understand that truth.

It matters that everyone has the freedom to explore those different stages without being judged by those who are at a different stage.

IMO
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May 16, 2012 3:51 PM CST The blind mans dream
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
EagleWoman: ... in the deepest way ...

You`ve been talking to some of my ex`s ...grin

olaix: Then shouldn't you be able to cough up some simple answers? :) please?

sure
when hungry-eat
when tired sleep
ta-da grin
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May 16, 2012 3:53 PM CST The blind mans dream
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Boban1:
sure
when hungry-eat
when tired sleep
ta-da


Not bad for a guy playing guitar with boxing gloves laugh
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May 16, 2012 4:00 PM CST The blind mans dream
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Boban1: You`ve been talking to some of my ex`s ...


Yeah!! I´m a spychic rolling on the floor laughing
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May 16, 2012 4:08 PM CST The blind mans dream
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
olaix: I am aware of this, but I don't think so, for the point in the discussion. I assume you know what it is.


dancing dog ... say hi to Bonzo, he's my guide dog.

We are just going to sit quietly and watch this one for a while....beer
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