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May 29, 2012 5:50 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Elaborate please


When you peel away the layers (like an onion) till you get to the core and examine what´s there, it usually voids its power.

The power of fear is the not knowing exactly what it´s made of, what nourishes it. Being phylosophical about what you can do about it, change, accept, integrate, dis-arm, void...
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May 29, 2012 5:52 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: When you peel away the layers (like an onion) till you get to the core and examine what´s there, it usually voids its power.

The power of fear is the not knowing exactly what it´s made of, what nourishes it. Being phylosophical about what you can do about it, change, accept, integrate, dis-arm, void...


...emptiness?

But what is it that is afraid then? wink
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May 29, 2012 5:54 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: ...emptiness?

But what is it that is afraid then?


No, not the void as in emptiness

To void, the verb. To annul
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May 29, 2012 6:01 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: No, not the void as in emptiness

To void, the verb. To annul


I thought a void had no matter, empty, which would make it compatible with meditation.

To void, does not a verb imply action? action of what? is there action in meditation?
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May 29, 2012 6:02 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
olaix: resist you? Obviously not, because you're not interested in forcing yourself on others.

But - do you want a man or a woman who want you? to want you, because you fit or approximate to their shopping list over the qualities necessary or adequate of being a man or a woman in their eyes. But are you their shopping list? is that even possible? if not, will not that relationship as well become a relationship with resistance?

Will you ever see the truth in a relationship with resistance?
Can there be any real honesty without the truth? or relationship without honesty? trust without honesty? I am talking about trust, not thrust, that we can all do a Friday night, even at the toilet in the pub


hiya olaix wave

here we go.....laugh
i want trust and thrust...
and the honesty, i want it all...grin

i think when one is in the right relationship, there is honesty that builds trust and the willingness to face fears...alone and together.
trusting oneself and the other person, to work through those fears.
both folks facing their fears, in a safe environment of kindness rather than rightness.

not necessarily easy..but doable with commitment on the part of both.
there needs to be a lot of things in place, trust being just one of them, forgiveness another...
(yup..there's a list...grin)

but what do i know...laugh it's all new to me...grin
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May 29, 2012 6:07 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
jono7: hiya olaix

here we go.....
i want trust and thrust...
and the honesty, i want it all...

i think when one is in the right relationship, there is honesty that builds trust and the willingness to face fears...alone and together.
trusting oneself and the other person, to work through those fears.
both folks facing their fears, in a safe environment of kindness rather than rightness.

not necessarily easy..but doable with commitment on the part of both.
there needs to be a lot of things in place, trust being just one of them, forgiveness another...
(yup..there's a list...grin)

but what do i know... it's all new to me...



Hey Jono :)

Well, I'm new here too, just 32 years in June. Trying to get from preschool to first grade grin how you doing?
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May 29, 2012 6:10 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: No, not the void as in emptiness

To void, the verb. To annul


Also, how about resistance to suffering? loneliness seems like a kind suffering to me, even if its no problem to live and deal with - however, staring at it does not prevent it from coming back, does it? did you have success with your method?
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May 29, 2012 6:10 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: I thought a void had no matter, empty, which would make it compatible with meditation.

To void, does not a verb imply action? action of what? is there action in meditation?


You´re talking about meditation, I wasn´t.

You asked me how to get rid of fear. I answered.
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May 29, 2012 6:11 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Also, how about resistance to suffering? loneliness seems like a kind suffering to me, even if its no problem to live and deal with - however, staring at it does not prevent it from coming back, does it? did you have success with your method?


Resistence is futile grin

Embracing isn´t
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May 29, 2012 6:17 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: You´re talking about meditation, I wasn´t.

You asked me how to get rid of fear. I answered.


Well, we were talking about resistance as the main subject. To resist, a verb, that is countered by another verb?
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May 29, 2012 6:26 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
olaix: Well, we were talking about resistance as the main subject. To resist, a verb, that is countered by another verb?


It´s up to you. You can let resistence be if you´d like to take no further action ...
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May 29, 2012 6:30 PM CST Do you want a man or a woman who
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
EagleWoman: It´s up to you. You can let resistence be if you´d like to take no further action ...


So to stop fear, take no further action instead?
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