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May 31, 2012 12:10 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
olaix: It was a rhetorical question, which I esteemed especially of you to understand, mr intellectual pursuit. Oh well. But I can teach you if you are a good boy :)


Oh, then we shall drop it then since it was only rhetorical.doh

olaix: Now cough up the solution. But don't bother if a reaction to the effect from the cause is all you can dig up. Heard it all before, in all variations


Sorry but you are on the internet and your belief that others must obey your commands is rather silly to say the least.

Try to have a nice day though.wave
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May 31, 2012 12:12 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Glatlol: Are people not given a choice about whether or not they join the armed forces?


Certainly and after that the choices go away for the most part. Try to get a day off when you're under fire or, get pulled out of a fire fight because you wife is having a baby. Once you get deployed, all personal options vanish unlike doing your shift at the fire hall you don't get to go home.
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May 31, 2012 12:20 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Albertaghost: Oh, then we shall drop it then since it was only rhetorical.
Sorry but you are on the internet and your belief that others must obey your commands is rather silly to say the least.

Try to have a nice day though.


Not so fast mr intellectual laugh confused rolling on the floor laughing

Let me present you to the key to one of your major dilemmas

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May 31, 2012 12:24 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
Albertaghost: Certainly and after that the choices go away for the most part. Try to get a day off when you're under fire or, get pulled out of a fire fight because you wife is having a baby. Once you get deployed, all personal options vanish unlike doing your shift at the fire hall you don't get to go home.



I dont doubt that, although the people signing up must be aware if it also, so it is their choice at the end of the day.
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May 31, 2012 12:24 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
Albertaghost: Certainly and after that the choices go away for the most part. Try to get a day off when you're under fire or, get pulled out of a fire fight because you wife is having a baby. Once you get deployed, all personal options vanish unlike doing your shift at the fire hall you don't get to go home.



I dont doubt that, although the people signing up must be aware if it also, so it is their choice at the end of the day.
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May 31, 2012 12:50 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
crazyblondeone
crazyblondeonecrazyblondeoneNo Scammers, California USA39 Threads 3,160 Posts
Kaybee50: Mothers, fathers, families of soldiers, firefighters, policemen, etc. are heroes. What tremendous heroic effort it must take to alllow your child to put his/her life in harm's way for total strangers.

You have my utmost respect and admiration crazyblonde.


Thank you Kaybee! It means a lot! I can't wait for my son to be home and back with his family! Only a few more months!

People don't realize how terrifying it is to have a phone conversation with your child and hear a round of gunfire in the background! I have! But nothing compares to being on a battle field be it in a foreign country or back here at home; fighting crime, fires or for someone's life...they do it without complaining. teddybear
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May 31, 2012 12:57 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
crazyblondeone: I have a son and daughter in the military. Until my son is back on US soil, I won't rest properly. When he is deployed I feel like an elephant is sitting on my chest. I can't breathe right...

I don't give a rat's butt who views who as a hero...it's all about opinion. I know my children are my heroes and there is no one who sits behind a computer and disputes heroism that can change my mind.

Regarding how our veterans are treated, I've seen way too many out on the street....very sad.
i like to commend u and congratulate u having your kids in the service. they are heroes and should be respected as one.
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May 31, 2012 1:00 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
venusenvy: I cant stand warmongers let alone glorifying war...I would say the true heroes in society are the people that really put their life on the line everyday, like Firefighters or Police officers. Someone like Nelson Mandela will always be a far bigger hero to me than all the so-called war heroes put together.
so in ur own words. you are calling our troops and troops of other nations warmongers. shame on u. a soldier hates war the most but he goes there to fight what is evil. just take alook at the second world war where thousand served and died and got wounded
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May 31, 2012 2:14 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
john12196341: those are just accusations not fact. but if they did do it then shame on them


Maybe I'm dumb, but it looks real to me. At least more real than the accusations towards Iraq to begin with wink or did anyone find them WMD's?



If you compare what was said in the helicopter to the "accusations" on the ground, you'll see that they're (admittedly by accusation) clueless, just as the warmongerers running accusations up for the Iraq invasion.

Then, living by the same method, do you buy any of the other honor and glory campaigns? and is then uniform=hero?
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May 31, 2012 2:17 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
typical anti-american bull
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May 31, 2012 2:30 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
john12196341: typical anti-american bull


Well, I guess you got attacked then because you are free and prosperous grin lol
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May 31, 2012 3:01 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
olaix: Not so fast mr intellectual

Let me present you to the key to one of your major dilemmas


sleep
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May 31, 2012 3:12 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
olaix: Well, I guess you got attacked then because you are free and prosperous lol
i guess plus we have the balls to fight and take care of the problems that the UN should take care of
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May 31, 2012 3:36 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
john12196341: i guess plus we have the balls to fight and take care of the problems that the UN should take care of

UN is only as good as the sum of its parts.
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May 31, 2012 3:44 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Glatlol: I dont doubt that, although the people signing up must be aware if it also, so it is their choice at the end of the day.


They certainly are however, I wish to point out that the 'end of the day' is not a firefighter's or a police officer's 'end of the day' that can be shortened or put off until the following week but rather years in which politics change, alliances with countries change and through all this the soldier is committed to serving in all areas with no option for a quick exit.
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May 31, 2012 3:45 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
john12196341: i guess plus we have the balls to fight and take care of the problems that the UN should take care of


Reminds me of quantum physics, that works in some ways in a similar fashion as to the human perception. To observe a problem, there needs to be a observer who does the measurement, which by the measurement is dependent, which again leads to the question who's role it is to measure out "problems" to fix wink You? I? Obama? Hu Jintao? In the case you think that is acceptable method, I am looking forward to the day China are starting to measure USA, with the capability to apply superior force against it, for problems to fix :)

The truth would be far more interesting to observe, which can only be observed without a observer to influence. And such you will understand that your concept of "evil" is less worth than what's in your trashcan, but more dangerous than a nuclear bomb (supported by the fact of the Iraqi bodycount number (collateral damage) compared to the nukes you dropped on Nagasaki or Hiroshima).

To a large part of the world, USA now looks like the problem. Do you think that this comes from the glory that is being experienced in your footsteps?
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May 31, 2012 3:46 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
Albertaghost: They certainly are however, I wish to point out that the 'end of the day' is not a firefighter's or a police officer's 'end of the day' that can be shortened or put off until the following week but rather years in which politics change, alliances with countries change and through all this the soldier is committed to serving in all areas with no option for a quick exit.


Again all things that people know before they sign up.
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May 31, 2012 4:01 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Albertaghost: But are not in extended dangerous situations where they are committed to following the policies and directions of their government and leaders whether they agree or not.


Are you saying that people who follow the directions and policies of people they might not agree with should be seen as heros just because they do that day in day out and put their life in danger for it? confused

There´s not many instences in life where THAT would be applauded... Why would killing others in the name of someone´s political agendas be one of them? confused
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May 31, 2012 4:06 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
john12196341: so in ur own words. you are calling our troops and troops of other nations warmongers. shame on u. a soldier hates war the most but he goes there to fight what is evil. just take alook at the second world war where thousand served and died and got wounded


If no soldiers had agreed to do "the evil work" there wouldn´t have been any evil. One person can NOT do on their own what was done during WWII
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May 31, 2012 4:31 PM CST treating our veterns like dirt
Dartagnann007
Dartagnann007Dartagnann007Kenosha, Wisconsin USA1 Posts
Yikes there is huge difference between "warmongers" and those of us that serve our country, if you can read this thank a teacher, if you can read it in english thank a soldier.
Just remember you are able to voice your opinions here because democracy has been protecetd by "Warmongers"
I served proudly to deter a war and it was a resounding success, we kept those that would do harm to innocent people at bay just by being present, without firing a shot,
venusenvy: I cant stand warmongers let alone glorifying war...I would say the true heroes in society are the people that really put their life on the line everyday, like Firefighters or Police officers. Someone like Nelson Mandela will always be a far bigger hero to me than all the so-called war heroes put together.
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