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Jun 14, 2012 1:44 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China to put an end to dead children on the streets in Syria?



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Jun 14, 2012 1:46 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads: When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China to put an end to dead children on the streets in Syria?
OMG .....It is sad Galrads ,Small Innocent Kids In the Blood ,I cant see that sad flower sad flower
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Jun 14, 2012 1:46 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
galrads: When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China to put an end to dead children on the streets in Syria?

Sorry, I don`t get it, why Europa ???
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Jun 14, 2012 1:49 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
butterfly0123
butterfly0123butterfly0123Prague, Czech Republic3 Threads 447 Posts
galrads: When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China to put an end to dead children on the streets in Syria?



Pardon my ignorance, and feel free to explain to me, but what can Europe do with Russia and China in this matter?

make no mistake as to my stance, what is happening in Syria is horrible sad flower and I wish I could do something.
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Jun 14, 2012 1:50 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: Sorry, I don`t get it, why Europa ???

Why not Europe, if no one else helps prevent further slaughter?
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Jun 14, 2012 2:02 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
butterfly0123
butterfly0123butterfly0123Prague, Czech Republic3 Threads 447 Posts
galrads: Why not Europe, if no one else helps prevent further slaughter?


So what do you suggest Europe do?
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Jun 14, 2012 2:03 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
galrads: Why not Europe, if no one else helps prevent further slaughter?

yeah like France initiated the "liberation" in Libya ???
There wouldn`t be much of a slaughter if foreign mercenaries aka the rebels wouldn't go around killing people oh and guess who is supplying them ...
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Jun 14, 2012 2:07 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: yeah like France initiated the "liberation" in Libya ???
There wouldn`t be much of a slaughter if foreign mercenaries aka the rebels wouldn't go around killing people oh and guess who is supplying them ...

Where is is there proof of Russia's claim that th U.S.A. is supplying arms to Syrian rebels?
Whereas, it's obvious where Russian refurbished armed Russian military helicopters are coming from.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:08 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: yeah like France initiated the "liberation" in Libya ???
There wouldn`t be much of a slaughter if foreign mercenaries aka the rebels wouldn't go around killing people oh and guess who is supplying them ...

Where is is there proof of Russia's claim that th U.S.A. is supplying arms to Syrian rebels?
Whereas, it's obvious where Russian refurbished armed Russian military helicopters are coming from.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:12 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
butterfly0123: So what do you suggest Europe do?

They can do whatever any peace seeking country would do. Open up dialog with Russia and China would be a good start. IMHO.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:13 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
galrads: Where is is there proof of Russia's claim that th U.S.A. is supplying arms to Syrian rebels?
Whereas, it's obvious where Russian refurbished armed Russian military helicopters are coming from.

Proof??? yeah right they invite reporters and make contracts during arms dealing .
The weapons had to come from somewhere its not like they bought it in a convenient store
Russia doesn`t hide that they are supplying the Official government
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Jun 14, 2012 2:17 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Entusiasmo
EntusiasmoEntusiasmoSomewhere, Murcia Spain100 Posts
galrads: They can do whatever any peace seeking country would do. Open up dialog with Russia and China would be a good start. IMHO.


The UK foreign minster has been back and forth to Russia, trying to do that very thing, Russia are adamant, no interferance. They would lose a safe port, and a huge arms sale if they did anything other than support Koffi Annans peace plan, which has little to no chance of doing more than photographing burial sites.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:17 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: Proof??? yeah right they invite reporters and make contracts during arms dealing .
The weapons had to come from somewhere its not like they bought it in a convenient store
Russia doesn`t hide that they are supplying the Official government

We are talking about crimes against humanity in Syria. Certainly the U.S.A. Isn't the only manufacturer or supplier of weapons. I myself own more Russian and European made hand and long guns.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:21 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Entusiasmo: The UK foreign minster has been back and forth to Russia, trying to do that very thing, Russia are adamant, no interferance. They would lose a safe port, and a huge arms sale if they did anything other than support Koffi Annans peace plan, which has little to no chance of doing more than photographing burial sites.

Well, wgat then is stopping Germany from trying to do something positive? They have the resources. What is France doing.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:21 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
galrads: We are talking about crimes against humanity in Syria. Certainly the U.S.A. Isn't the only manufacturer or supplier of weapons. I myself own more Russian and European made hand and long guns.

okay, now lets say Im a arms dealer and I have some interest in Syria ,interest which implies the overthrow of the government. I would have to be the stupidest MF to use weapons that has my seal on it...
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Jun 14, 2012 2:23 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Entusiasmo
EntusiasmoEntusiasmoSomewhere, Murcia Spain100 Posts
galrads: Well, wgat then is stopping Germany from trying to do something positive? They have the resources. What is France doing.


Why not go to Russia yourself, hold Putin at gunpoint and get him to sign up to the UN mandate, authorising action over Syria, without all 5 agreeing, nothing can be done unless the Arab states take it on themsleves to do so.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:30 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: okay, now lets say Im a arms dealer and I have some interest in Syria ,interest which implies the overthrow of the government. I would have to be the stupidest MF to use weapons that has my seal on it...

If you are saying the U.S.A. doesn't like to see crimes against humanity, you are correct. But, Russia has a selfish interest in Syria.
Surely, someone in Europe has some rapport and influence in Russia and china that will help resolve things in Syria?
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Jun 14, 2012 2:33 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Entusiasmo: Why not go to Russia yourself, hold Putin at gunpoint and get him to sign up to the UN mandate, authorising action over Syria, without all 5 agreeing, nothing can be done unless the Arab states take it on themsleves to do so.

I only have guns fir self defense and sporting things and I'm not a politician, but I'll go and speak with putin at Europes expense and if you go too and back me up.
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Jun 14, 2012 2:35 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
Entusiasmo
EntusiasmoEntusiasmoSomewhere, Murcia Spain100 Posts
galrads: I only have guns fir self defense and sporting things and I'm not a politician, but I'll go and speak with putin at Europes expense and if you go too and back me up.


Europe wouldn't back you, why not ask Obama for your fare and pocket money?
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Jun 14, 2012 2:37 PM CST When is Europe going to deal with Russia and China?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Entusiasmo: Europe wouldn't back you, why not ask Obama for your fare and pocket money?

I'm too conservative for Obama and his court.
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