Working, jobs and being paid for them. ( Archived) (9)

Sep 21, 2012 10:24 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
How many hours do you work and how are you paid for them?

When a doctor or lawyer comes in to be serviced, do they think I will not pass pestilence on to them?

No, because I work early and hard not to transmit what is amongst us in this world, do you think they should pay me for this?

The person that serves you your food is keeping you free from germs, but do you pay them for keeping you healthy?

Just wondering what people think.

Every human being has a place on this earth and we are all equal and entitled to the same benefits.
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Sep 21, 2012 10:33 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
InGodslight
InGodslightInGodslightCookeville, Tennessee USA16 Threads 64 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: How many hours do you work and how are you paid for them?

When a doctor or lawyer comes in to be serviced, do they think I will not pass pestilence on to them?

No, because I work early and hard not to transmit what is amongst us in this world, do you think they should pay me for this?

The person that serves you your food is keeping you free from germs, but do you pay them for keeping you healthy?

Just wondering what people think.

Every human being has a place on this earth and we are all equal and entitled to the same benefits.


Come on, some people have abilities far above others, should they not get paid more than those with lesser abilities?
I worked in the auto body shop. There pay is based solely on your production.
If the work order says 18 hrs to do the repair and I get it done in 2 hrs I got paid for the 18 hrs on the work order.
Now had it taken me 30 hrs I would still only get paid for the 18hrs on the work order.
Should I be paid less for working harder and faster and someone else of lesser ability get paid more for working less hard and slowly?
Also the job must be done right, and with high quality.
Should those that do low quality work get paid more?
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Sep 21, 2012 10:49 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
InGodslight: Come on, some people have abilities far above others, should they not get paid more than those with lesser abilities?
I worked in the auto body shop. There pay is based solely on your production.
If the work order says 18 hrs to do the repair and I get it done in 2 hrs I got paid for the 18 hrs on the work order.
Now had it taken me 30 hrs I would still only get paid for the 18hrs on the work order.
Should I be paid less for working harder and faster and someone else of lesser ability get paid more for working less hard and slowly?
Also the job must be done right, and with high quality.
Should those that do low quality work get paid more?


That is not what this thread is about, it's about the right of every human being to be paid for what they provide for others.

Gouging is what happens when people are not paid for their service.
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Sep 21, 2012 10:59 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
InGodslight
InGodslightInGodslightCookeville, Tennessee USA16 Threads 64 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: That is not what this thread is about, it's about the right of every human being to be paid for what they provide for others.

Gouging is what happens when people are not paid for their service.


Working in the body shop is all about service. Service both the car and the customer.

Work is work, my dad was banker. He had his 80/20 rule about the people who work in an office. He said 20% of the people do 80% of the work.

I found that true everywhere I have worked.

I did construction right out of HS, it was true there, and true in the body shop.

I have built and owned several body shops, and in each that was also true.

I have many friends that own their own biz, of all kinds, and it is true in them as well. From selling insurance, real estate, to running a gym, in construction, and the body shop the 80/20 stands the true test of people.
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Sep 21, 2012 11:03 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
Why should you be a common worker when you service auto's that keep all people safe?
Are you not a doctor of life when you work on auto's.
jmho
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Sep 21, 2012 11:15 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
I have heard that the pay is based on risk of job done. For
example doctors and pilots get paid well because they have
extensive training and have lives literally on their hands.
Whereas repairing cars is less risky or serving hamburgers
also is less risky. I have always found it funny that the
president makes less then many CEOs of corporations. drinking
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Sep 21, 2012 11:32 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
InGodslight
InGodslightInGodslightCookeville, Tennessee USA16 Threads 64 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Why should you be a common worker when you service auto's that keep all people safe?
Are you not a doctor of life when you work on auto's.
jmho


I don't return life to dead autos? As to being a doctor....

My uncle is a retired open heart surgeon ( he then gave seminars to younger doctors ) , and my aunt was an anesthetist. When the family got together for the holidays, We would talk with my uncle about medicine, my brother and I. About the most cutting edge things happening in medicine to date.

My uncle was always saying, "How can you know that and you are not doctors? We were talking about the latest most cutting edge things in medicine today. I have colleagues who are esteemed surgeons and they don't know half of what you just told me."

I lost my brother in 06, and I was giving his doctors cancer treatments they had never heard of. They had to go research them in order to talk to me about his treatment. This made some huge problems at first. Doctors don't like it when they get told what they are doing is wrong buy someone thats not a doctor.
Yet after much arm wrestling, I got their very best to look into my brother's condition. They said "I" had been right all long, and told me to make a diary of everything I could remember from day 1, as they thought his treatment was deplorable and actionable in court.
From the GP's to the Oncologists, to the vascular surgeons ( with which I had some of those same cutting edge medicine discussions with about my brother treatment), to the dietary staff, "I" had more knowledge than they did!
After that I "forced" the hospital management to adopt what "I" been saying to do, and guess what? My brother got better very quickly. In the end it did no good as he caught a nosicomial lung infection that was drug resistant and he died.
But all the doctors were stunned at how quickly he got better once "I" had taken control away from the hospital staff. He was more alert, he needed far less pain meds, and he put on weight after he had gotten emaciated looking under their care.
So could I be a doctor? I think yes, and a VERY good one.
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Sep 21, 2012 11:36 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
agman: I have heard that the pay is based on risk of job done. For
example doctors and pilots get paid well because they have
extensive training and have lives literally on their hands.
Whereas repairing cars is less risky or serving hamburgers
also is less risky. I have always found it funny that the
president makes less then many CEOs of corporations.


The president has loop holes that makes him more than you nor I can ever imagine.
Doctors and pilots have only what we have given them.
Over the years I have served docs, dents, lawyers and politician for a very small fee because of what they were going for, do you think they knew were their roots came from, I think not, because greed is more important to them.
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Sep 21, 2012 11:48 PM CST Working, jobs and being paid for them.
InGodslight: I don't return life to dead autos? As to being a doctor....

My uncle is a retired open heart surgeon ( he then gave seminars to younger doctors ) , and my aunt was an anesthetist. When the family got together for the holidays, We would talk with my uncle about medicine, my brother and I. About the most cutting edge things happening in medicine to date.

My uncle was always saying, "How can you know that and you are not doctors? We were talking about the latest most cutting edge things in medicine today. I have colleagues who are esteemed surgeons and they don't know half of what you just told me."

I lost my brother in 06, and I was giving his doctors cancer treatments they had never heard of. They had to go research them in order to talk to me about his treatment. This made some huge problems at first. Doctors don't like it when they get told what they are doing is wrong buy someone thats not a doctor.
Yet after much arm wrestling, I got their very best to look into my brother's condition. They said "I" had been right all long, and told me to make a diary of everything I could remember from day 1, as they thought his treatment was deplorable and actionable in court.
From the GP's to the Oncologists, to the vascular surgeons ( with which I had some of those same cutting edge medicine discussions with about my brother treatment), to the dietary staff, "I" had more knowledge than they did!
After that I "forced" the hospital management to adopt what "I" been saying to do, and guess what? My brother got better very quickly. In the end it did no good as he caught a nosicomial lung infection that was drug resistant and he died.
But all the doctors were stunned at how quickly he got better once "I" had taken control away from the hospital staff. He was more alert, he needed far less pain meds, and he put on weight after he had gotten emaciated looking under their care.
So could I be a doctor? I think yes, and a VERY good one.

The common person has more knowledge than the educated, political and the genius of this world.
We are simple but we are right.
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