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Oct 17, 2012 2:57 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Ok, I don't get it. I just got home from picking up some groceries at the market. It had started to rain and the young lady in the next aisle had her hands full. A full cart, a not so happy uncooperative toddler, and that shopping cart with the front left wheel that likes to turn sideways and make you crash into the endcap if you try to push it with one hand.

As we were both walking out at the same time and I only had a couple of small bags I offered to help her to her car with her groceries. Now I was brought up to believe that this was the gentlemanly thing to do but instead of a polite thank you I was called a chauvinist a**hole.

Am I wrong...should I abandon what I was taught to believe?
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Oct 17, 2012 3:45 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia: Ok, I don't get it. I just got home from picking up some groceries at the market. It had started to rain and the young lady in the next aisle had her hands full. A full cart, a not so happy uncooperative toddler, and that shopping cart with the front left wheel that likes to turn sideways and make you crash into the endcap if you try to push it with one hand.

As we were both walking out at the same time and I only had a couple of small bags I offered to help her to her car with her groceries. Now I was brought up to believe that this was the gentlemanly thing to do but instead of a polite thank you I was called a chauvinist a**hole.

Am I wrong...should I abandon what I was taught to believe?


Don't abandon who you are. Never let anyone else define your character. Reputation is who people think you are. Character is who you really are.

If I were a betting man, I would make three bets:

1) Unless you live in a very strange area where the women are all similar, I think this was an isolated incident.

2) She was already frustrated with her toddler, before you even entered the picture.

3) I'm willing to bet that this was a younger women who was raised on feminist principles. There are still some like the woman you encountered in the world. At the height of the women's movement in the 80's, women would get furious if a guy held the door open for them. Thank goodness, that's changed, and most women thank me when I hold a door open for them.
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Oct 17, 2012 3:50 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Thanks Hugger. I'm guessing #3 but that's just a guess.
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Oct 17, 2012 4:02 PM CST A question for the ladies
halfavag
halfavaghalfavagdublin, Dublin Ireland218 Posts
no your not wrong.if i was in her shoes id be pleased if somebody offered to help.maybe she was just in bad humour cause the child was playing up
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Oct 17, 2012 4:07 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
halfavag: no your not wrong.if i was in her shoes id be pleased if somebody offered to help.maybe she was just in bad humour cause the child was playing up


maybe but it seems like I get dirty looks sometimes for holding a door too...maybe chivalry is dead?
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Oct 17, 2012 4:07 PM CST A question for the ladies
michaelkk
michaelkkmichaelkkkilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland41 Posts
she was just a moron...feminist idiot

forget about it...a real woman would have be grateful for your help
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Oct 17, 2012 4:13 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
michaelkk: she was just a moron...feminist idiot

forget about it...a real woman would have be grateful for your help


you're probably right but it just got me wondering
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Oct 17, 2012 4:19 PM CST A question for the ladies
SnarkyEmpath
SnarkyEmpathSnarkyEmpathPurgatory, New Jersey USA67 Posts
I don't care how frustrated one can get with kids; I know they can be a handful. That is no excuse for that woman's rudeness! Personally, I'd have thanked anyone for being kind enough to help when I was obviously overloaded and overwhelmed. It's nothing I wouldn't do, myself. So to label you a chauvinist a**hole when you were simply being kind is highly uncalled for. To be honest, I think people should start being kinder to one another. I mean who couldn't use a hand every now and then? The term is "Karma".
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Oct 17, 2012 4:24 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Snarky thumbs up cheers
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Oct 17, 2012 4:29 PM CST A question for the ladies
Jillll
JillllJillllRancho Cucamonga, California USA3 Threads 1 Polls 1,390 Posts
Feminism is not an excuse for bad manners.
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Oct 17, 2012 4:39 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Jono, it doesn't happen on an everyday basis but it seems to be more frequent lately. As for what one is taught, I agree, hang on to what you truly beleive in and shed the rest...no one is perfect and that includes my parents. cheers
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Oct 17, 2012 4:40 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Jillll, right on cheers
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Oct 17, 2012 4:44 PM CST A question for the ladies
halfavag
halfavaghalfavagdublin, Dublin Ireland218 Posts
i was on a bus last week wen a crowd of schoolkids got on.id say they were aged 12 or 13. few stops later a lady in her sixties got on, i was surprised none of them offered her a seat.i was taught to always give up my seat for an elderly person , a pregnant woman or a woman holding a baby.i taught that on to my own kids.in the end i gave her my seat and stood the rest of the way and im 50 lol maybe ive old fashioned ideas but to me that was just plain bad manners.
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Oct 17, 2012 4:54 PM CST A question for the ladies
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
halfavag: i was on a bus last week wen a crowd of schoolkids got on.id say they were aged 12 or 13. few stops later a lady in her sixties got on, i was surprised none of them offered her a seat.i was taught to always give up my seat for an elderly person , a pregnant woman or a woman holding a baby.i taught that on to my own kids.in the end i gave her my seat and stood the rest of the way and im 50 lol maybe ive old fashioned ideas but to me that was just plain bad manners.


Nothing wrong with manners. If one of my kids were on that bus they'd have gotten up or gotten their ear boxed!
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Oct 17, 2012 5:01 PM CST A question for the ladies
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
funxsinia: Jono, it doesn't happen on an everyday basis but it seems to be more frequent lately. As for what one is taught, I agree, hang on to what you truly beleive in and shed the rest...no one is perfect and that includes my parents.


hiya funx wave
well...that's just really sad then. i hope folks just chalk it up to ignorance or bad manners
and keep doing the right thing; which is helping each other.

jerks come in all shapes and sizes and genders...lol
on a good day, when confronted with one...i ask myself, 'what would love do?'
i know it sounds corny....but it actually works for me.
for those other days.... i wear my boots.... grin
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Oct 17, 2012 5:05 PM CST A question for the ladies
eurolady
euroladyeuroladyFredericton, New Brunswick Canada1 Threads 228 Posts
I think that happen to be crazy lady...
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Oct 17, 2012 5:23 PM CST A question for the ladies
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
Jillll: Feminism is not an excuse for bad manners.
Nor does feminism equal rudeness. Rudeness is simply just that ... rudeness whether it by from a male or female.
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Oct 17, 2012 6:02 PM CST A question for the ladies
michaelkk
michaelkkmichaelkkkilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland41 Posts
langleygirl: Nor does feminism equal rudeness. Rudeness is simply just that ... rudeness whether it by from a male or female.


her attitude was femninist...she used the word chauvanist...not just a**hole ha
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Oct 17, 2012 6:05 PM CST A question for the ladies
michaelkk
michaelkkmichaelkkkilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland41 Posts
chauvinist i should say...

think chivalry is dead, Ive often heard of guys opening doors etc for a woman only to get the same response..

alot of women just seem unpleasant these days...strange
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Oct 17, 2012 6:50 PM CST A question for the ladies
22W00
22W0022W00Antibes, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France1 Threads 313 Posts
funxsinia: Ok, I don't get it. I just got home from picking up some groceries at the market. It had started to rain and the young lady in the next aisle had her hands full. A full cart, a not so happy uncooperative toddler, and that shopping cart with the front left wheel that likes to turn sideways and make you crash into the endcap if you try to push it with one hand.

As we were both walking out at the same time and I only had a couple of small bags I offered to help her to her car with her groceries. Now I was brought up to believe that this was the gentlemanly thing to do but instead of a polite thank you I was called a chauvinist a**hole.

Am I wrong...should I abandon what I was taught to believe?


What a nice guy you are! I hope her bags split, her eggs broke, her milk spilt and her toddler puked in the car on her way home.

I don't believe that it should just be the men who step up to help either, I often offer assistance to people who are struggling with something - I was brought up to do this, my mother called it good manners.
Please do not abandon your chivalry - there are still plenty of women who still appreciate this thoughtfulness. purple heart
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