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Sunny143christchurch, Canterbury New Zealand112 Threads 20 Polls 1,093 PostsDo you think that many people believe and pray to God because of fear that something bad would happen to them if they don't live in the light of God.. or is it their inability to cope up with miseries(mostly created by self)..or is it their fear of death that makes them believe so..can we not be happy if we don't trust in God...why should one believe in invisible Deities??Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths,I am always confused about GOD.can somebody say something about GOD..
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Do what you belive is right and follow your own path . You should not let others make up your mind for you .
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My take on beliefs in general is that they present comfort for many. In Abrahamic religions(Christianity, Judaism, Islam), people take comfort in a higher power they believe to be watching over them. They also take comfort in believing that living a "virtuous"* life will give them peace in the afterlife. There is also the comfort of numbers involved. As social animals, we like the thought that we are not alone in our thinking. We like having common ground with others, and to have that on a large scale is generally comforting.
As for my own beliefs, I blaze my own trail. I believe many things that give me comfort, and I believe that everyone has a path to follow in life. You cannot force others to walk down a path that is not right for them. Eventually, they find their way to where they need to be. From that perspective, I believe that we are all meant to find our way to the "light"** that unites us.
*I only put that in quote because the term is open to interpretation.
**Part of my own beliefs more than anything else.
As for my own beliefs, I blaze my own trail. I believe many things that give me comfort, and I believe that everyone has a path to follow in life. You cannot force others to walk down a path that is not right for them. Eventually, they find their way to where they need to be. From that perspective, I believe that we are all meant to find our way to the "light"** that unites us.
*I only put that in quote because the term is open to interpretation.
**Part of my own beliefs more than anything else.
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SnarkyEmpath: My take on beliefs in general is that they present comfort for many. In Abrahamic religions(Christianity, Judaism, Islam), people take comfort in a higher power they believe to be watching over them. They also take comfort in believing that living a "virtuous"* life will give them peace in the afterlife. There is also the comfort of numbers involved. As social animals, we like the thought that we are not alone in our thinking. We like having common ground with others, and to have that on a large scale is generally comforting.
As for my own beliefs, I blaze my own trail. I believe many things that give me comfort, and I believe that everyone has a path to follow in life. You cannot force others to walk down a path that is not right for them. Eventually, they find their way to where they need to be. From that perspective, I believe that we are all meant to find our way to the "light"** that unites us.
*I only put that in quote because the term is open to interpretation.
**Part of my own beliefs more than anything else.
As for my own beliefs, I blaze my own trail. I believe many things that give me comfort, and I believe that everyone has a path to follow in life. You cannot force others to walk down a path that is not right for them. Eventually, they find their way to where they need to be. From that perspective, I believe that we are all meant to find our way to the "light"** that unites us.
*I only put that in quote because the term is open to interpretation.
**Part of my own beliefs more than anything else.
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Sunny143: Do you think that many people believe and pray to God because of fear that something bad would happen to them if they don't live in the light of God.. or is it their inability to cope up with miseries(mostly created by self)..or is it their fear of death that makes them believe so..can we not be happy if we don't trust in God...why should one believe in invisible Deities??Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths,I am always confused about GOD.can somebody say something about GOD..
Well! Just wait 'till Serendipity sees this!
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HuggerMan4U: Well! Just wait 'till Serendipity sees this! He will most certainly have an eleguent answer to this!
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Sunny143: Do you think that many people believe and pray to God because of fear that something bad would happen to them if they don't live in the light of God.. or is it their inability to cope up with miseries(mostly created by self)..or is it their fear of death that makes them believe so..can we not be happy if we don't trust in God...why should one believe in invisible Deities??Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths,I am always confused about GOD.can somebody say something about GOD..
Something exists
Nothing can't cause something
Therefore,something always existed(God).
From those two "self evident" premises we conclude an eternal Being.
God is all powerful,He is all knowing,He is all loving. He is an infinite and eternal Spirit,who created this universe for His glory and for our good. These are some of the things I've drawn from the Bible.
God bless you!
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serendipity615: Something existsNothing can't cause somethingTherefore,something always existed(God).From those two "self evident" premises we conclude an eternal Being.God is all powerful,He is all knowing,He is all loving. He is an infinite and eternal Spirit,who created this universe for His glory and for our good. These are some of the things I've drawn from the Bible.
God bless you!
God bless you!
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To be honest, I don`t believe that none believers exist ...
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serendipity615: Something existsNothing can't cause somethingTherefore,something always existed(God).From those two "self evident" premises we conclude an eternal Being.God is all powerful,He is all knowing,He is all loving. He is an infinite and eternal Spirit,who created this universe for His glory and for our good. These are some of the things I've drawn from the Bible.
God bless you!
I appreciate your belief,but can you talk about god without including your religion..no offence!!Every religion believes that their God is powerful,great and stuff ...but do I need to follow any religion for believing in God..I also feel an eternal soul exists,but dont want to link him to any religion!!God bless you!
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Sunny143: Do you think that many people believe and pray to God because of fear that something bad would happen to them if they don't live in the light of God.. or is it their inability to cope up with miseries(mostly created by self)..or is it their fear of death that makes them believe so..can we not be happy if we don't trust in God...why should one believe in invisible Deities??Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths,I am always confused about GOD.can somebody say something about GOD..
I think it depends on how people were raised: if they grow up with the belief in god, it's normal for them to believe; and if they grow up without a belief in a god, it's normal not to believe.
Each to their own, but here is what I most strongly believe in: nobody should look down on anyone else because of what they believe or not.
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Susanne1: I think it depends on how people were raised: if they grow up with the belief in god, it's normal for them to believe; and if they grow up without a belief in a god, it's normal not to believe.
Each to their own, but here is what I most strongly believe in: nobody should look down on anyone else because of what they believe or not.
Yes I totally agree with you,but always feel that religion has divided people every where,world would have been a better place for living if there was no religion but belief in one God.Each to their own, but here is what I most strongly believe in: nobody should look down on anyone else because of what they believe or not.
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I am non religious but I believe.
simple rules to live & serve and help.
1 golden rule to never hurt. and i deal with my daily life issues myself.
most of religions are based in the fears:
you don't belong to a religion you take the risk of being in hell or never gain the sky.
others hide in religions to make atrocities.
others are victims of the atrocities.
whatever are your beliefs, they give you guidance.and this is what we need to walk our patch of life.
simple rules to live & serve and help.
1 golden rule to never hurt. and i deal with my daily life issues myself.
most of religions are based in the fears:
you don't belong to a religion you take the risk of being in hell or never gain the sky.
others hide in religions to make atrocities.
others are victims of the atrocities.
whatever are your beliefs, they give you guidance.and this is what we need to walk our patch of life.
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minnie50: I am non religious but I believe.
simple rules to live & serve and help.
1 golden rule to never hurt. and i deal with my daily life issues myself.
most of religions are based in the fears:
you don't belong to a religion you take the risk of being in hell or never gain the sky.
others hide in religions to make atrocities.
others are victims of the atrocities.
whatever are your beliefs, they give you guidance.and this is what we need to walk our patch of life.
yes,atrocities in the name of religion are really ridiculous.Innocent people mostly suffer and torture their whole life struggling to be so called religious,religion definitely teaches good thing and discipline if one is really serious,but most of today's religion is creating superstition and fear.I really hate it when somebody say that they are God fearing,why should one fear of God??One should be taught the art of living happily with his/her fellow beings and no fear has to be filled in their brains,fear is the root cause of all miseries..People have to be taught fearlessness,and the beauty of serving man kind.I consider philosophy as the best method to lead a peaceful and happy life.simple rules to live & serve and help.
1 golden rule to never hurt. and i deal with my daily life issues myself.
most of religions are based in the fears:
you don't belong to a religion you take the risk of being in hell or never gain the sky.
others hide in religions to make atrocities.
others are victims of the atrocities.
whatever are your beliefs, they give you guidance.and this is what we need to walk our patch of life.
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Sunny143: Yes I totally agree with you,but always feel that religion has divided people every where,world would have been a better place for living if there was no religion but belief in one God.
I'm not sure that it is religion itself that divides people, there is a lot of common ground between them.
It's more the religious leaders throughout history, who have a lot to answer for.
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Believing in a higher all powerful being is not the problem, it is when humans start believing, that the all powerful being they believe in, is bigger and better than than the all powerful being someone else believes in.
That is when the trouble starts.
That is when the trouble starts.
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Mme La Maréchale: Are you not Monsieur Crudeli?
Crudeli: Yes, Madame.
Mme La Maréchale: Then you're the man who doesn't believe in anything.
Crudeli: In person, madame.
Mme La Maréchale: Yet your moral principles are the same as those of a believer?
Crudeli: Why should they not be -- as long as the believer is an honest man?
Mme La Maréchale: And do you act upon your principles?
Crudeli: To the best of my ability.
Mme La Maréchale: What? You don't steal? You don't kill people? You don't rob them?
Crudeli: Very rarely.
Mme La Maréchale: Then what do you gain by not being a believer?
Crudeli: Nothing at all, madame. Is one a believer from motives of profit?
-- Denis Diderot, "Conversation with a Christian Lady" (1774), trans. Derek Coltman, quoted from S T Joshi, ed, Atheism: A Reader, p. 229
Crudeli: Yes, Madame.
Mme La Maréchale: Then you're the man who doesn't believe in anything.
Crudeli: In person, madame.
Mme La Maréchale: Yet your moral principles are the same as those of a believer?
Crudeli: Why should they not be -- as long as the believer is an honest man?
Mme La Maréchale: And do you act upon your principles?
Crudeli: To the best of my ability.
Mme La Maréchale: What? You don't steal? You don't kill people? You don't rob them?
Crudeli: Very rarely.
Mme La Maréchale: Then what do you gain by not being a believer?
Crudeli: Nothing at all, madame. Is one a believer from motives of profit?
-- Denis Diderot, "Conversation with a Christian Lady" (1774), trans. Derek Coltman, quoted from S T Joshi, ed, Atheism: A Reader, p. 229
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Atheism
The belief there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing magically exploded (for no reason), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs. And they mock my beliefs
alright in all seriousness this is my take, I identify with the Catholic church as a community - it holds many of the same and similar values and morals I live my life by with others of the same beliefs. It is the same as stating I am a female, I am an adult, I am a mother. . . .and so on. It is a label I freely choose because of who I am. I dont force my "religion" onto others however I expect the same respect in regards to the beliefs I hold - dont knock what you dont understand. Most folks knock religion because of 2 specific reasons - 1) they view all folks of a particular religion thru stereotypes of extremists and 2) they dont take the time to truly educate themselves going off of hearsay and making generalizations.
Beliefs cause wars not religions, the beliefs a group of folks hold.
I would say most folks pray to God because they believe in God - not because they fear God that is simply a misnomer and a negative conotation of how religion works. Religion is a gathering of a group of people (community) with a similar value and belief system. Many times folks that hold specific religious beliefs actually cope better with the so called life miseries as compared to folks that do not believe in a higher power of some form. Sorry but there are several psychological studies providing evidence to this theory that 'religious folks' deal better with life in general.
It is pretty obivious from the statement "Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths," that there is not a true understanding or education about different religions. I would challenge you to truly look at the logic and the reasoning behind your assumptions. Are they from past experiences you have had, from lack of understanding. . . . .
I found thru my education that the more I know the more I truly realize how little I know yet there was one clear and evident fact that kept coming to the forefront. Many other scholars have discovered the same thing. . . . whoever it may be, whatever we may call it . . . . . there is one thing that becomes very clear, that the human body, the world we live in could not possibly have been created by chance - there are just way too many variables, way to many things that could have gone wrong which tends to continue to lead to the very existance of there being a higher power that through some miraculous way designed everything. Whether you call that ultimate creator Allah, Mother Earth, God or whatever matters so much less for it is simply man's simplemindedness that places labels, that needs labels . . . .
I have often said - I have my faith, I have my beliefs and I believe God is trying to reach each and everyone of us. My beliefs in the word of God that the Bible is his holy word tell me that he will do whatever is possible to get to each and everyone of us and thus how can I assume that he wont use whatever label we create so long as he has our love. Whether we are Protestant, Lutheran, Muslim, Hindu.. . . does it matter, not really to God for he has our attention and that was what he asks of us
The belief there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing magically exploded (for no reason), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs. And they mock my beliefs
alright in all seriousness this is my take, I identify with the Catholic church as a community - it holds many of the same and similar values and morals I live my life by with others of the same beliefs. It is the same as stating I am a female, I am an adult, I am a mother. . . .and so on. It is a label I freely choose because of who I am. I dont force my "religion" onto others however I expect the same respect in regards to the beliefs I hold - dont knock what you dont understand. Most folks knock religion because of 2 specific reasons - 1) they view all folks of a particular religion thru stereotypes of extremists and 2) they dont take the time to truly educate themselves going off of hearsay and making generalizations.
Beliefs cause wars not religions, the beliefs a group of folks hold.
I would say most folks pray to God because they believe in God - not because they fear God that is simply a misnomer and a negative conotation of how religion works. Religion is a gathering of a group of people (community) with a similar value and belief system. Many times folks that hold specific religious beliefs actually cope better with the so called life miseries as compared to folks that do not believe in a higher power of some form. Sorry but there are several psychological studies providing evidence to this theory that 'religious folks' deal better with life in general.
It is pretty obivious from the statement "Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths," that there is not a true understanding or education about different religions. I would challenge you to truly look at the logic and the reasoning behind your assumptions. Are they from past experiences you have had, from lack of understanding. . . . .
I found thru my education that the more I know the more I truly realize how little I know yet there was one clear and evident fact that kept coming to the forefront. Many other scholars have discovered the same thing. . . . whoever it may be, whatever we may call it . . . . . there is one thing that becomes very clear, that the human body, the world we live in could not possibly have been created by chance - there are just way too many variables, way to many things that could have gone wrong which tends to continue to lead to the very existance of there being a higher power that through some miraculous way designed everything. Whether you call that ultimate creator Allah, Mother Earth, God or whatever matters so much less for it is simply man's simplemindedness that places labels, that needs labels . . . .
I have often said - I have my faith, I have my beliefs and I believe God is trying to reach each and everyone of us. My beliefs in the word of God that the Bible is his holy word tell me that he will do whatever is possible to get to each and everyone of us and thus how can I assume that he wont use whatever label we create so long as he has our love. Whether we are Protestant, Lutheran, Muslim, Hindu.. . . does it matter, not really to God for he has our attention and that was what he asks of us
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Sunny143: Do you think that many people believe and pray to God because of fear that something bad would happen to them if they don't live in the light of God.. or is it their inability to cope up with miseries(mostly created by self)..or is it their fear of death that makes them believe so..can we not be happy if we don't trust in God...why should one believe in invisible Deities??Are we wasting our time in believing in all these myths,I am always confused about GOD.can somebody say something about GOD..
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