Hurricane SANDY ( Archived) (95)

Oct 30, 2012 6:35 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
tennesseejudy
tennesseejudytennesseejudyJohnson City, Tennessee USA54 Threads 2 Polls 1,540 Posts
Snow in NC mountains.
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Oct 30, 2012 8:17 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
tennesseejudy: Snow in NC mountains.
Hi Judy! wave
I saw WVA got clobbered with snow too. I think WVA might be more experienced with heavy snowfalls than NC esp dealing with hills lol.
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Oct 30, 2012 8:30 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
montemonte: The temperature is 57 degrees, wind is picking up a little bit, sky is light and drak grey.

The town I live in always floods with these type of storms which means my basement floods. With Hurricaine Irene I had water in the basement but was saved from it getting up into the house because of the subpump. If I lose power, which is likely, I'll lose the subpump and will be forced to call the fire/police dept. That will be a nuisiance because I'm still using a walker to get around after my surgery. I'm making a list...and checking it twice... of what I should take if I have to be saved by a handsome fireman...

Seriously, it would be very dangerous for my knee to have to be in flood water because flood water carries germs and many other things to gross to mention. If my knee gets an infection, I will be in deep, deep trouble.

Governor Christie will be speaking soon but so far we know that certain areas of NJ have to evacuate including Cape May, which is the tip of NJ. Atlantic City casinos are closed.

The cloud of the storm is 1,000 miles from end to end. New Jersey is 1,000 miles from Florida....that's a big area for the surge to cover with water.

The question is still open if airports in NJ and NY will be closed. As someone else said mass transportation in NY (my neighbor) will stop at 7 pm tonight and certain areas have mandatory evacuation.

My biggest worry is that I will lose electricity and my subpump won't work.

I'll get back to you Ooby when Governor Christie gives us an update.


Be safe Monte hug
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Oct 30, 2012 8:44 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
I'm worried about the people in NYC, those people don't have wood stoves like country people do so when the power goes they could freeze to death because they are totally dependant on the utilities to supply them with electric to produce heat. Even if you have oil or gas heat an oil or gas burner wont work without elect. The only kind of heat that doesn't need electric are the old fashioned coal furnaces that make steam heat or hot water heat but virtually all of those furnaces have been converted to oil & gas years ago.
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Oct 30, 2012 11:53 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
ooby_dooby: I'm worried about the people in NYC, those people don't have wood stoves like country people do so when the power goes they could freeze to death because they are totally dependant on the utilities to supply them with electric to produce heat. Even if you have oil or gas heat an oil or gas burner wont work without elect. The only kind of heat that doesn't need electric are the old fashioned coal furnaces that make steam heat or hot water heat but virtually all of those furnaces have been converted to oil & gas years ago.


Not sure if this is help or confusion but a heavy AC inverter 1000 Watt + that can be bought at a hardware store can be hooked up to a couple of batteries in series (while being charged by a vehicle (s) will power the home enough to fire up the gas or oil heaters providing all other power drainers such as TVs, lights are all off.

Better know what you are doing on a couple of levels to do this though. Other options are to do same with a diesel powered heater but after the fact is a little late for sure on this one. I have one I use to thaw anything out in the big freeze of winter and have insulated hoses that would heat a couple of homes when attached. Would run off the same power source described above.
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Oct 31, 2012 12:33 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts








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Oct 31, 2012 8:39 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
SnarkyEmpath
SnarkyEmpathSnarkyEmpathPurgatory, New Jersey USA67 Posts
My town just got power back last night after about 36 hours without. Considering how small this place is, I was incredibly surprised. My brother and his family in Hamilton were still dark, last I heard. As far as damage, there's a lot, but not as much as I thought there'd be. Downed trees, debris, etc. The most startling bit of damage I've seen was the roof blown off my niece and nephews' school. And apparently the new sign outside the Hamilton Y is gone. I think a lot of Trenton and Columbus are still dark, but I don't know for certain...
At any rate, I hope everyone is alright and got through the storm safely.
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Nov 1, 2012 12:34 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
Sunny143: heyy guys!!would like to know about the current condition of Edison Nj..my bro lives there..please reply!!


Edison is about 30 mins up the road from where I am. I have not heard anything on the local radio as to what is going on there. I do know that Rt 1 and Rt 18 intersection (at Edison) is closed.

Most of us have no TV in the state, many do not have cell phone service and many do not have power for what they say can last 7-10 days. There are crews out working. We're getting a lot of help from guys outside the state.

The big problem now is that the off roads are open, but you cannot actually drive on them due to downed wires and flooding. It's a bit of a crapshoot to know which road is passable and which isn't. Until yesterday afternoon, you could also not call the radio station because the phones didn't work there.

I did not hear anything about gas fires etc. in Edison, so don't worry.
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Nov 1, 2012 12:54 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
Sunny143
Sunny143Sunny143christchurch, Canterbury New Zealand112 Threads 20 Polls 1,093 Posts
ooby_dooby: Hey sunny I tried to send you some info on Edison NJ but you have my area blocked so I'll just post it here.

Edison is located right at the point of a funnel of land formed by Staten Island to the north and South Amboy to the south the lower NY bay backed up by the Atlantic ocea probably pushed right into Edison. The topography is fairly flat in that area so if I had to guess I'd say Edison is under water by at least 6 feet.
thank you very much ooby_dooby.Valuable information!!thumbs up
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Nov 1, 2012 12:57 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
Sunny143
Sunny143Sunny143christchurch, Canterbury New Zealand112 Threads 20 Polls 1,093 Posts
Scubadiva: Edison is about 30 mins up the road from where I am. I have not heard anything on the local radio as to what is going on there. I do know that Rt 1 and Rt 18 intersection (at Edison) is closed.

Most of us have no TV in the state, many do not have cell phone service and many do not have power for what they say can last 7-10 days. There are crews out working. We're getting a lot of help from guys outside the state.

The big problem now is that the off roads are open, but you cannot actually drive on them due to downed wires and flooding. It's a bit of a crapshoot to know which road is passable and which isn't. Until yesterday afternoon, you could also not call the radio station because the phones didn't work there.

I did not hear anything about gas fires etc. in Edison, so don't worry.
hey scubadiva..thanx..I am sure now the situation is under control..my bro lives in an apt..and told me that the cellar is filled with water..scary to imagine..I hope things will be back in place soon.cheers
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Nov 2, 2012 8:27 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
The U.S. Department of Energy said Friday two million gallons of heating oil would be released as early as Saturday from the reserve terminal in Connecticut to be distributed to New York and New Jersey residents affected by Sandy. Power and fuel outages became acute after Sandy blew through the northeastern U.S. Monday. As of 2 p.m. EDT, about 3.5 million customers were without power in the affected region, the Energy Department said. That was down from more than 3.6 million Friday morning. The Defense Logistics Agency will draw down stocks from Groton, Conn., and distribute it to state, local and federal responders, the DOE said. More heating oil could be distributed from the 42-million gallon reserve if the initial two-million-gallon draw is insufficient, the agency said.
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Nov 3, 2012 5:38 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Here is the biggest trick we have learned down in Florida regarding using generators post hurricane for home electricity. It stretches your limited gas.

Only run the generator 3 or 4 hours per day.

That is all you need to keep most of the fridge cold.....run your water pumps....flush tiolets....take a shower or bath. If you run 24 hours, you are going to going to those 5 hour long gas lines all the time. You cannot do that. You have get other things done....food...drinking water....clothing....work.....

Use kerosene or candles for your light.
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Nov 3, 2012 8:57 AM CST Hurricane SANDY
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNIN NEW YORK,... and New Jerseylaugh

As I mentioned in an earlier post I feel sorry for city dwellers because they don't have the resources that people who live in the country have like wood stoves to keep warm and cook meals on. They generally don't own Hurricane lamps or kerosene to fill them (I have 3). They have no means of getting water to wash with or flush toilets. I don't think you will find a home in the country that doesn't have a rain barrell or creek or pond nearby to get water. Speaking of water, the first thing I do when the power goes off is shut off the main water valve so I have at least 10 gal of clean water for drinking & cooking before the tank pressure drops to zero. During Isabel I filled my bathtub with rain water so I had unlimited flushes because I knew we would be without power for days. I also have a stand up freezer full of bread I get from the bakery outlet by the barrell for dirt cheap for my chickens which I don't have anymore lol. I have a big square plastic container that holds about 2 gallons of water and I have that in the freezer frozen solid which keeps the food cool working as an icebox for about a week. I know all about city life having grown up in the big apple. City dwellers have become totally dependant on the infrastructure to supply them with everything, water, electricity, heat, food, garbage removal, sanitation. When the system breaks down due to natural forces they are at the mercy of Lady Luck and they suffer by the millions and many will die.

The industrial revolution bore the migration of people from the country to the city and this is the trade off. During the hippy days of the 60's there was a "Back to the Land" movement. Everybody had a subscription to "Mother Earth News" I did, it was a heady time of rediscovery of the pioneering spirit which built this country and it was awesome. It got people to rekindle a spirit of self reliance and taught them how to survive in the face of adversity. Unfortunately not everybody got the education.
I doubt I could ever live in a city again. I would feel like I was in prison.
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Nov 3, 2012 10:38 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
TTom50: Here is the biggest trick we have learned down in Florida regarding using generators post hurricane for home electricity. It stretches your limited gas.

Only run the generator 3 or 4 hours per day.

That is all you need to keep most of the fridge cold.....run your water pumps....flush tiolets....take a shower or bath. If you run 24 hours, you are going to going to those 5 hour long gas lines all the time. You cannot do that. You have get other things done....food...drinking water....clothing....work.....

Use kerosene or candles for your light.


That is really good advice. Lots of people have been calling in to the radio station because they're running out of gas and a limited number of gas stations are open.
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Nov 3, 2012 10:45 PM CST Hurricane SANDY
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
ooby_dooby: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNIN NEW YORK,... and New Jersey

As I mentioned in an earlier post I feel sorry for city dwellers because they don't have the resources that people who live in the country have like wood stoves to keep warm and cook meals on. They generally don't own Hurricane lamps or kerosene to fill them (I have 3). They have no means of getting water to wash with or flush toilets. I don't think you will find a home in the country that doesn't have a rain barrell or creek or pond nearby to get water. Speaking of water, the first thing I do when the power goes off is shut off the main water valve so I have at least 10 gal of clean water for drinking & cooking before the tank pressure drops to zero. During Isabel I filled my bathtub with rain water so I had unlimited flushes because I knew we would be without power for days. I also have a stand up freezer full of bread I get from the bakery outlet by the barrell for dirt cheap for my chickens which I don't have anymore lol. I have a big square plastic container that holds about 2 gallons of water and I have that in the freezer frozen solid which keeps the food cool working as an icebox for about a week. I know all about city life having grown up in the big apple. City dwellers have become totally dependant on the infrastructure to supply them with everything, water, electricity, heat, food, garbage removal, sanitation. When the system breaks down due to natural forces they are at the mercy of Lady Luck and they suffer by the millions and many will die.

The industrial revolution bore the migration of people from the country to the city and this is the trade off. During the hippy days of the 60's there was a "Back to the Land" movement. Everybody had a subscription to "Mother Earth News" I did, it was a heady time of rediscovery of the pioneering spirit which built this country and it was awesome. It got people to rekindle a spirit of self reliance and taught them how to survive in the face of adversity. Unfortunately not everybody got the education.
I doubt I could ever live in a city again. I would feel like I was in prison.


I didn't know what to expect, so I bought a load of dry, durable food and water. Filled up the bathtub and every container, including the garbage cans with water in anticipation of being out of power and clean water for at least a week. Turned out we got lucky on all ends. I still need to check whether my belongings in storage survived :-OOO
Used to keep "camping" equipment (kerosene cooker, blankets, etc.) but they don't help when you're not actually living in a place. Here, they gave notice not to light any kind of flame. Something similar may be in the bylaws of the condo associations in the apartment buildings, you know (gas leaks etc). So yes, you're quite right with what you say, but when you live in an apartment building, there is only so much you can do, you know.

and capitalize New Jersey, next time! wink laugh
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