Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real ( Archived) (67)

Dec 26, 2012 5:52 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
How many hours does a police officer recruit get? Betch it's more then six hours. In fact I know it's more then six hours.

Are parents going to feel their children are safe in the hands of teachers who've had six hours training?

Is this what you guys want dunno dunno

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Dec 26, 2012 5:58 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
"The Utah Shooting Sports Council said it normally gathers a dozen teachers every year for instruction that's required to legally carry a concealed weapon in public places." - From the article cited.

This training is about "Concealed" Weapons training, which is not the same as basic weapons training. I imagine that the issue is not basic training in how to utilize a firearm, but much more about when NOT to use it. This is not the same type of training a constable would be involved in.

Apples to apples monte. wave
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Dec 26, 2012 5:59 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I take pretty much what I read in the news anymore as being all that accurate.


They're just milking all the shootings and other people's sorrow for what it's worth.

I just might contact the authories in Utah and see if it's real.
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Dec 26, 2012 6:16 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: "The Utah Shooting Sports Council said it normally gathers a dozen teachers every year for instruction that's required to legally carry a concealed weapon in public places." - From the article cited.

This training is about "Concealed" Weapons training, which is not the same as basic weapons training. I imagine that the issue is not basic training in how to utilize a firearm, but much more about when NOT to use it. This is not the same type of training a constable would be involved in.

Apples to apples monte.


I have both Ohio and Utah conceal carry permits. Believe both are as "Basic" as they can get!
Absdefghi.......
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Dec 26, 2012 8:56 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Foxmaine
FoxmaineFoxmainecookeville, Tennessee USA22 Threads 191 Posts
montemonte: I think you made a good point my little fox. My daughter has been a police officer for 22 years. Yesterday, while having Christmas dinner, we were discussing the newspaper that printed the names and addresses of gun owners. I thought it was wrong to do that because now the criminals know where they can steal a gun. But my daughter said, now the crimals know where NOT to do a home robbery. So it's a catch-22. Like they say....you win some....you lose some. I will never own a gun. I live in an area where there is a lot of crime. If I feel the need to shoot somebody I'll call 9-1-1. That's where the people are who are trained to handle guns in a professional way and I won't have to worry about being judged if I was within my legal right to shoot the robber.


When your wife, GF, or kid is dead, shot by some robber, will you still think not having a gun and calling 911 was the right way?
God forbid such a thing should ever happen, but as we all know from the recent CT school shooting, they damn sure DO happen!
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Dec 26, 2012 9:02 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Foxmaine: When your wife, GF, or kid is dead, shot by some robber, will you still think not having a gun and calling 911 was the right way?
God forbid such a thing should ever happen, but as we all know from the recent CT school shooting, they damn sure DO happen!




I also take into consideration of the police response time.By the time they were to arrive at someone's home,school etc the victim(s) could already be shot dead.
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Dec 26, 2012 9:11 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Foxmaine
FoxmaineFoxmainecookeville, Tennessee USA22 Threads 191 Posts
Ccincy: I also take into consideration of the police response time.By the time they were to arrive at someone's home,school etc the victim(s) could already be shot dead.


And the perps could be long gone too!!r
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Dec 26, 2012 9:14 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Foxmaine: When your wife, GF, or kid is dead, shot by some robber, will you still think not having a gun and calling 911 was the right way?
God forbid such a thing should ever happen, but as we all know from the recent CT school shooting, they damn sure DO happen!



Ummmmm.....Errrrr.....Fox, you do know that I'm a female right....my "kid" is 48 years old.
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Dec 26, 2012 9:14 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Foxmaine: And the perps could be long gone too!!r




That's pretty much the case.
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Dec 26, 2012 9:33 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
candio
candiocandioYoungstown, Ohio USA20 Threads 568 Posts
Where I live in Ohio we have a problem with corrupt and hot headed police. I would trust a teacher to be armed more than a police or security. I feel it is a fine idea to train and arm teachers. The Dems want to crucify the Reps and NRA for the idea but remember who was the first to bring it up. President Bill Clinton was the first to mention and want to arm the nations teachers.
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Dec 26, 2012 9:50 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
montemonte: How many hours does a police officer recruit get? Betch it's more then six hours. In fact I know it's more then six hours.

Are parents going to feel their children are safe in the hands of teachers who've had six hours training?

Is this what you guys want



Hiya Monts wave I think teachers have a tough enough job with just teaching and dealing with children without having the added responsibility of acting as armed security as well. hug
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Dec 26, 2012 9:51 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
Even without the firearms, I think hazardous duty pay should be required, some kids are just a**hole.
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Dec 26, 2012 9:55 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
DaytonaDude
DaytonaDudeDaytonaDudeSouth Daytona, Florida USA33 Threads 3 Polls 2,403 Posts
2intrigued: Hiya Monts I think teachers have a tough enough job with just teaching and dealing with children without having the added responsibility of acting as armed security as well.


What they need is this guy...Kindergarten Cop

sir bobby

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Dec 26, 2012 9:59 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
Oregongold: Even without the firearms, I think hazardous duty pay should be required, some kids are just a**hole.


I've heard some pretty wild stories of what teachers have had to deal with so I can see where giving them a gun might not be such a good idea if they happen to hit their breaking point one day. We all have breaking points...some reach it later than others but its there even if we were declared sane. laugh
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Dec 26, 2012 10:05 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
funbucket
funbucketfunbucketfuntown city, Nunavut Canada72 Posts
too little too late

parents will never feel safe

and the kids will never know what kind of world they are about to inherit

until its...

the world will not be safe from nuclear weapons until everyone has nuclear weapons.

and so it go'd
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Dec 26, 2012 10:24 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
DaytonaDude: What they need is this guy...Kindergarten Cop


Oh yeah, Arnie would do the trick. laugh
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Dec 26, 2012 10:26 PM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
shut on doh
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Dec 27, 2012 2:22 AM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
OMG, teachers with guns??? Next to do is to train the kids...That's sick!!!
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Dec 27, 2012 4:05 AM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
montemonte: How many hours does a police officer recruit get? Betch it's more then six hours. In fact I know it's more then six hours.

Are parents going to feel their children are safe in the hands of teachers who've had six hours training?

Is this what you guys want

In my days all my Teachers had Weapons-Training!
They all were Members of the Swiss Armed Forces!
In the fifties there was nothing unusual bout a Teacher bringing his Issue-Firearm to School for Training-Purposes!
It only since the Do-Gooders made it PC, that the Youth thinks shooting a Bullet at someone is just no different than pitching a Pea at someone!
And we all had access to ammunition at home,but none ever even thought about of bringing any to School when the Firearms were there!
It is not the Firearms,but the attitudes instilled in the People today!
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Dec 27, 2012 4:07 AM CST Utah Teachers To Get SIX Hours Of Weapons Training.......Is This For Real
montemonte: How many hours does a police officer recruit get? Betch it's more then six hours. In fact I know it's more then six hours.

Are parents going to feel their children are safe in the hands of teachers who've had six hours training?

Is this what you guys want

doubt they'll use Teacher who never had any Firearms-Training!
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